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The Sunday Game Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,507 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Aidan O'Se nominated for Man of the Match ?! Honestly thought he was poor, there were times he could have released it but ran into trouble.

    Can't complain too much about CO'C getting it as he was very good, and flawless on the frees, but for me it was probably Boyle.
    Constantly driving forward, and of course won the crucial penalty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭Dubliner28


    aveytare wrote: »
    I'm neutral (well who's truly neutral) but the O'Connor incident looked accidental.

    I accidentally hit my Dad on the head too on Friday night. It didnt result in him getting 10 stitches.

    Should have been a red card, but not a peep out of it this morning. Oshea could /should based on the other two got a black card in the 1st have for dragging down Cluxton.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭Radio5


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    O'Se was overly dirty though even within the parameters of Gaeilic Football. He's just not someone RTE should be employing to pontificate about the game. You'd imagine some thought would be put into it when choosing who they have as panelists.

    Who would you have as an analyst then? What are your criteria, what standards of playing perfection would they have to meet? Would their playing record from u-12, U-14 and so on upwards be relevant? Do enlighten us. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭thevinylword


    Joe Brolly gives me ire in me hoop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭Jippo


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    O'Se has no right to be on the panel in a flagship programme like the Sunday Game. Shouldn't be there.

    Yeah you're dead right!!

    What the hell would Tomás Ó Sé know about football anyway?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 413 ✭✭Seans_Username


    Dubliner28 wrote: »
    I accidentally hit my Dad on the head too on Friday night. It didnt result in him getting 10 stitches.

    Should have been a red card, but not a peep out of it this morning. Oshea could /should based on the other two got a black card in the 1st have for dragging down Cluxton.

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    I'm biased but I honestly think it was more of an accident, than a hit. Not worthy of a red, probably a yellow for being a bit reckless. But certainly not a red. He's not looking at o'carroll, and looking at that, why would he try to hit him while desperately trying to get the umpire's attention?

    And as for the "not a peep out of it this morning", I think that has to do with several other incidents that were much more clear cut, such as johnny cooper's hit on o'connor.

    Oh yeah and what about cluxton kicking out at o'shea afterwards? Shouldn't he have been punished for that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


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    I'm biased but I honestly think it was more of an accident, than a hit. Not worthy of a red, probably a yellow for being a bit reckless. But certainly not a red. He's not looking at o'carroll, and looking at that, why would he try to hit him while desperately trying to get the umpire's attention?

    And as for the "not a peep out of it this morning", I think that has to do with several other incidents that were much more clear cut, such as johnny cooper's hit on o'connor.

    Oh yeah and what about cluxton kicking out at o'shea afterwards? Shouldn't he have been punished for that?

    Regardless of whether it was an accident, he still struck out. Reminded me a bit of a wild pull in hurling where you get red for dangerous play. He was very lucky to stay on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    . But certainly not a red. He's not looking at o'carroll, and looking at that, why would he try to hit him while desperately trying to get the umpire's attention?

    You don't need to be looking where you throw a punch when you already know where the lads face is :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭Jippo


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    It's a gas listening to Tomas O'Se pontificating about players needing to keep their discipline.

    To be fair to Tomás Ó Sé, he had many transgressions but always took his punishment on the chin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,507 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Regardless of whether it was an accident, he still struck out. Reminded me a bit of a wild pull in hurling where you get red for dangerous play. He was very lucky to stay on.

    Yes, a wild pull in hurling merits a red card. However the trend is far the GAA to generally overrule these in the last few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 413 ✭✭Seans_Username


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    I don't think it's 100% accidental, I'll admit. There's obviously no need to swing like that. But I also don't think he had the intention of giving o'carroll 10 stitches either...

    Neither side came away from it in a great light, but tbh Dublin had a lot more dirt than Mayo. The johnny cooper tackle on o'connor is the one that still has me angry. A yellow card for that 'tackle' is pathetic. I don't like to criticise a ref as it's a tough job, but he saw what cooper did and gave him a yellow... If the ref saw CO'C hit o'carroll do you think he'd have given him a red?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭eigrod


    I found that there were so many controversial incidents in the game, the panel just ran through them in summary format meaning their analysis of each individual one was in effect watered down.

    If the disciplinary committees were to look at this game this week and implement the laws as they are written, there would be numerous suspensions handed out. They'll just ignore them therefore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    I don't think it's 100% accidental, I'll admit. There's obviously no need to swing like that. But I also don't think he had the intention of giving o'carroll 10 stitches either...

    Neither side came away from it in a great light, but tbh Dublin had a lot more dirt than Mayo. The johnny cooper tackle on o'connor is the one that still has me angry. A yellow card for that 'tackle' is pathetic. I don't like to criticise a ref as it's a tough job, but he saw what cooper did and gave him a yellow... If the ref saw CO'C hit o'carroll do you think he'd have given him a red?

    Mayo man here and there wasn't the slightest chance that it was accidental.
    Very cute, but no hint of an accident about it.

    I do wish the few Dubs that are crying about the blood/stitches would change the record. It is irrelevant and unlucky.

    We're not a dirty team but we have developed a cuteness that has enabled us to match a dirty team. We foul in the right spots, we'll get someone into a headlock in a tussle, plenty of blocking off the ball and (one that annoys me is) the looking for frees, cards etc. from the ref, the verbals.

    But I welcome this cuteness in general. We were naive for too long. If Dublin were half as smart they'd be looking forward to playing Kerry. Of all teams to give soft frees in front of goal away too, you don't give them to us.... we also know how to win a free in these instances.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭Pdoghue


    PARlance wrote: »

    We're not a dirty team but we have developed a cuteness that has enabled us to match a dirty team. We foul in the right spots, we'll get someone into a headlock in a tussle, plenty of blocking off the ball and (one that annoys me is) the looking for frees, cards etc. from the ref, the verbals.

    But I welcome this cuteness in general. We were naive for too long. If Dublin were half as smart they'd be looking forward to playing Kerry. Of all teams to give soft frees in front of goal away too, you don't give them to us.... we also know how to win a free in these instances.

    Give over.. that's what is so depressing about modern football.. how are the examples you cite above not dirty play or cheating?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Patww79 wrote: »
    Yesterday showed you are a dirty team. There's no cuteness in that, so don't be fooling yourself. There was two dirty teams on that pitch yesterday. Whether it's long term for either remains to be seen, but yesterday both were a disgrace. Cute my arse.

    Dirt:
    is smacking someone on the ground with a closed fist,
    is putting your head in for a headbutt,
    is faking injury,
    is landing your studs into someone's thigh,
    is kicking out at someone.

    I would give a little leeway with the last two as they were split second decisions, granted they were poor ones but bad decisions can be made in the heat of a game.

    O'Connor's was dirty, but you're talking through your proverbial if you think Mayo are a dirty team. Mayo like a battle and have added a bit of cuteness.

    Plenty of hotheadedness on here, a bit like the Dublin defense yesterday. Naive and plain stupid defending at times that gifted us another chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Pdoghue wrote: »
    Give over.. that's what is so depressing about modern football.. how are the examples you cite above not dirty play or cheating?

    I'm sorry but I can't change modern football for you. Mayo were naive for long enough, while I don't like the way the game has gone, I'm glad we're not putting ourselves at a disadvantage with that naivety anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,131 ✭✭✭NabyLadistheman


    PARlance wrote: »
    Dirt:
    is smacking someone on the ground with a closed fist,
    is putting your head in for a headbutt,
    is faking injury,
    is landing your studs into someone's thigh,
    is kicking out at someone.

    This. TV pictures only showed half of what the Dubs were at yesterday. A cynical dirty team who got burned last year by Donegal and will now do whatever it takes to get the job done. What Cooper was at from the first minute was disgusting. Like Whelo last night the fans are trying to blame both teams to cover their own shameful carry on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    This. TV pictures only showed half of what the Dubs were at yesterday. A cynical dirty team who got burned last year by Donegal and will now do whatever it takes to get the job done. What Cooper was at from the first minute was disgusting. Like Whelo last night the fans are trying to blame both teams to cover their own shameful carry on.

    I know it won't stand up to the internet but I got two texts from proper Dublin GAA men calling their own out for their display.
    Watching Whelan (attempt escape of) analysing Dublin foul play has to be one of funniest things around.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    I will agree on McStay being cringe-worthy too, but Whelan's playing history adds that little bit of comic value.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    Oh man, please no more of the melodramatics concerning the beheading.

    We both agree Mayo needed a little something extra and that it is unfortunately gone that way.
    I can't agree with classing us as a dirty team, I'm not sure you will find many that do either. The general consensus is that Mayo aren't a dirty team. Maybe we are dirty.... maybe we're cute enough to get away with it ;)
    One a scale, we are far more Kerry (cute/dirt) than Dublin (cute/dirt), I don't think it's any coincidence that we started to change in this respect when Buckley came on board.


    Fwiw, O'Connors lash out has been part of the game for years. It's not a "modern football" phenomenon for a back to hold onto a forward and it's almost expected (almost part of the game) that the forward is to fight free.

    It very rarely gets picked up on and I have no doubt that it there wasn't blood drawn then we wouldn't be talking about it now. It would been in the locker with all the other off the ball stuff that we're not talking about.
    I started this off by calling out that there was no chance it was even remotely an accident.
    But I've conceded it was dirty and I try not to wear any type of glasses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭Pdoghue


    PARlance wrote: »
    I'm sorry but I can't change modern football for you. Mayo were naive for long enough, while I don't like the way the game has gone, I'm glad we're not putting ourselves at a disadvantage with that naivety anymore.

    Not asking you to change modern football. But a number of measures could be taken by the GAA, who have the power, to help eradicate this scourge. Retrospective black/yellow/red cards, proper bans for indiscretions, i.e. enforceable match bans, TMOs, linesmen & umpires getting involved more, more support for referees. Some of those measures would quickly sort out this rubbish. Not enough of a deterrent at the moment.

    You say you're glad. If you're happy that your team Mayo have had to become more cynical to compete, that's your perogative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    PARlance wrote: »
    But I welcome this cuteness in general. We were naive for too long. If Dublin were half as smart they'd be looking forward to playing Kerry. Of all teams to give soft frees in front of goal away too, you don't give them to us.... we also know how to win a free in these instances.

    Pity you aren't so quick at actually taking them, though are you? You might want to tone down the self congratulatory slaps on the back for your cuteness, until your players have a few All Ireland medals in their back pockets.
    PARlance wrote: »
    Oh man, please no more of the melodramatics concerning the beheading.

    The beheading? Oh that's very witty. Very witty indeed. Perhaps next time, you'll work in a joke about Anne Boleyn, or Maire Antoinette losing her head (geddit? :D ) during the French Revolution.

    Won't change the cold hard facts of what actually happened though, nor will your telling people to stop bringing it up. It only draws more attention to it. So well done you !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Kalyke


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    I'm biased but I honestly think it was more of an accident, than a hit. Not worthy of a red, probably a yellow for being a bit reckless. But certainly not a red. He's not looking at o'carroll, and looking at that, why would he try to hit him while desperately trying to get the umpire's attention?

    And as for the "not a peep out of it this morning", I think that has to do with several other incidents that were much more clear cut, such as johnny cooper's hit on o'connor.

    Oh yeah and what about cluxton kicking out at o'shea afterwards? Shouldn't he have been punished for that?
    SPOT on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,799 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    O'Connor pretty plainly guilty of two if not three red card offences IMO.
    Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)
    1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
    2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
    3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
    4. Spitting at an opponent.
    5. Contributing to a melee.
    6. Stamping.
    7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
    8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.

    https://www.gaa.ie/about-the-gaa/rules-and-regulations/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    PARlance wrote: »
    Dirt:
    is smacking someone on the ground with a closed fist,
    is putting your head in for a headbutt,
    is faking injury,
    is landing your studs into someone's thigh,
    is kicking out at someone.
    .

    Just for the record - there was no headbutt - in fact, it was o'shea trying to con the ref.


    https://mobile.twitter.com/DubMatchTracker/status/638361943342993408

    How do you view tryin to con your Ref in terms of Dirt that you were stating above?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭Ordinary man


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    I'm biased but I honestly think it was more of an accident, than a hit. Not worthy of a red, probably a yellow for being a bit reckless. But certainly not a red. He's not looking at o'carroll, and looking at that, why would he try to hit him while desperately trying to get the umpire's attention?

    And as for the "not a peep out of it this morning", I think that has to do with several other incidents that were much more clear cut, such as johnny cooper's hit on o'connor.

    Oh yeah and what about cluxton kicking out at o'shea afterwards? Shouldn't he have been punished for that?

    Is it because o carroll is made of glass that there is so much talk from dublin about that tap? Or is it just because they're afraid he'll destroy them on saturday and they want him out of the equation? Elbow my hole


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