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****LEAVING CERT BUSINESS BEFORE AND AFTER****

  • 07-06-2008 5:37pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭


    Anyone got any predicitions for Tuesday?


    ABQ....hmmmmm...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 PuddinBum


    Our teacher was saying a vey good chance of a Break Even Chart coming up as an ABQ


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Business really is impossible to predict.

    But, our teacher has been going on about HRM, TQM, a break even in the ABQ.. em... *thinking* .. I'll get back to ya.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Calorimeterman


    I asked my teacher before if they would throw a break even into the ABQ, she said they almost definitely wouldn't...

    It would be fantastic if they did though! I struggle with the time limit on the whole business paper, and I could spend an hour on the ABQ if I'm in a clever mood... but I can get the chart drawn in like, 10 mins!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭MaltEagle


    I don't think they'd put a break even on the ABQ. I think it will be Marketing Mix, and something to do with International Trade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭Bambi16


    Break Even wont feature in the ABQ, it'll be part of a question

    I say ratios will come up somewhere

    ABQ will be marketing mix and some form of business expansion like private or public?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    PuddinBum wrote: »
    Our teacher was saying a vey good chance of a Break Even Chart coming up as an ABQ


    I doubt it as Unit 5 can only come up as a part of the ABQ, with 6 and 7 having a part each also. I'd reckon it could come up in the long questions.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭Twee.


    I very much doubt a break-even would be on the ABQ, it wouldn't be fair to put maths on a compulsory question.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Asides that it would be impossible to do the whole ABQ in 40 or whatever minutes you are meant to do it in if it were like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭jennyq


    My teacher was tipping social & environmental responsibilities as part of the ABQ cos it's so topical, but I guess you can't be sure of anything :rolleyes: As someone who also does Accounting I really hope there's a question with a decent amount of calculations in it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭SRFC90


    Whats all this about HRM?? Everyone's saying it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,176 ✭✭✭1huge1


    PuddinBum wrote: »
    Our teacher was saying a vey good chance of a Break Even Chart coming up as an ABQ
    Break even chart in a ABQ? seriously? I've never seen calculations in a ABQ before, would be lovely though.

    Im a little bit nervous about this exam, im just worried ill blank in the exam despite having gone over all the stuff so many times. Its the way they phrase the questions sometimes that I hate.
    SRFC90 wrote: »
    Whats all this about HRM?? Everyone's saying it?

    Chapter 11.

    Basically its all about teamwork, benefits etc

    and the role of a human resource manager, (training, appraisal etc)

    thats all thats needed for the chapter but its important and likely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭glenn3ie


    SRFC90 wrote: »
    Whats all this about HRM?? Everyone's saying it?

    Hungarian Reading Material. Did your teacher not cover it with you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭SRFC90


    Haha!! You have misunderstood me, I mean why is everone tipping it to come up? Whats the big deal? Everyone is saying it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,176 ✭✭✭1huge1


    SRFC90 wrote: »
    Haha!! You have misunderstood me, I mean why is everone tipping it to come up? Whats the big deal? Everyone is saying it!
    Hasnt come up in a while I suppose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    I've gone over Unit 5 and 6 quite well today and seems to make sense. I'm going over Unit 4 tomorrow, and I did Unit 7 and 1 beforehand.

    If anyone doing all of the units? I'm thinking of just looking over past solutions for the short questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭orangetictac


    Jakkass wrote: »
    I've gone over Unit 5 and 6 quite well today and seems to make sense. I'm going over Unit 4 tomorrow, and I did Unit 7 and 1 beforehand.

    If anyone doing all of the units? I'm thinking of just looking over past solutions for the short questions.

    Im doing them all but concentrating on 5,6 and 7 obviously.
    Its just long questions on stuff like control are so easy! thats why i am doin em all


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ive covered all units.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,176 ✭✭✭1huge1


    Im just going over everything. Nothing more so than anything else.

    I suppose though monday night ill concentrate heavily on unity 5,6 and 7


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Laaaaaaaaa de da.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 Yggdrasill


    I am thinking about dropping down to pass. I haven't really much work done for business. If I was to do the higher level paper what should I study just to get a D3


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭Choc123


    study your business book!:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 CandyKing123


    Is there any chance anyone thinks management will come up in long questions if i learnt it all off?any more general guidelines for what to learn last minute for HL business completely neglected it!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 leavingcert problems


    Unit 1, 2 and 3 are very important as the ABQ is based on those units.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭MrAweesome


    What i think may come up in the ABQ and Long Questions are:
    Entrepreneurial Characteristics
    Managing Skills
    A Report

    Total Quality Management,Sales of goods and supplies of services act 1980(i think), Unfair Dismissals Act, Stakeholders relationship, HM Manger, EU and Ratio question. Thats what I THINK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 ELynch96


    Question 3 is on unit 7
    Question 1 is on unit 1 I believe
    Question 4 is on enterprise
    And question 5 is usually a ratio question or something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 CandyKing123


    thanks for the replies! helpful :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 781 ✭✭✭LoveLamps


    My teacher is backing q5 as ratios, theyre v easy. You may have to write a report on them then.
    If youre panicking, just lear unit 1,2&3 best you can. Thatll cover you for some short q's, at least one long and the ABQ. Could easily get a C from that and some educated waffle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 areh


    ELynch96 wrote: »
    Question 3 is on unit 7
    Question 1 is on unit 1 I believe
    Question 4 is on enterprise
    And question 5 is usually a ratio question or something

    how would you know that??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    areh wrote: »
    how would you know that??

    Simple analysis of past exam papers. The same topics come up in the same Q's every year. This shouldn't be news to you....

    You need all the management chapters as they always come up in Q4, arguably the easiest Q on the paper and will come up in the ABQ this year.

    One question I would reccomend everyone avoids is Q7. They can literally pull anything out for that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭robman60


    thelad95 wrote: »
    One question I would reccomend everyone avoids is Q7. They can literally pull anything out for that.
    It's worth saying that Q7 may well be a break-even chart this year for 30-40 marks including interpreting it. If that were the case, it would be very advisable to do that question because it's easy marks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    robman60 wrote: »
    It's worth saying that Q7 may well be a break-even chart this year for 30-40 marks including interpreting it. If that were the case, it would be very advisable to do that question because it's easy marks.

    True but in the past a break-even chart has also come up in Q5 and Q6 so that could happen this year as well. Seriously though Marketing is so open-ended it could be a lovely question or something completely bizarre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 pumpkin222


    chapters 1-19 will get you an a1. you have no choice on questions though, but if you learn them inside out you're guarenteed an a1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 Jackson07


    I thought I create this cuz there isn't one I don't think! Anyways guys what do you think will be on it? I'm so screwed for business it's now even funny :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭caolan1996


    same i thing i am ****ed for it. what questions do ya plan on doing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 Jackson07


    caolan1996 wrote: »
    same i thing i am ****ed for it. what questions do ya plan on doing

    Question 1 and 4 of course and prolly question 5 and 6 or maybe question 3! Wbu?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭sarahkiely125


    Hey guys. My sister is a leaving cert business teacher. She and my actual teacher told me to NEVER answer Q1. Its marked horrendously hard. They predicted an accounting Q.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 Jackson07


    Hey guys. My sister is a leaving cert business teacher. She and my actual teacher told me to NEVER answer Q1. Its marked horrendously hard. They predicted an accounting Q.

    Yeah I bet cuz everyone will answer on it :/ what accounting question? I don't do accounting haha I think maybe a break even chart may be on it or ratios?? Do you know anymore predictions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭caolan1996


    Hey guys. My sister is a leaving cert business teacher. She and my actual teacher told me to NEVER answer Q1. Its marked horrendously hard. They predicted an accounting Q.

    ya even my teacher said that they mark it very hard.
    do ya think it will be a ratios question


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭robman60


    Hey guys. My sister is a leaving cert business teacher. She and my actual teacher told me to NEVER answer Q1. Its marked horrendously hard. They predicted an accounting Q.

    It's part of our ABQ though, so it's logical to answer that's question. I think people just say it's marked hard because it's far more factual than the rest of the business course so you actually have to know your stuff to perform well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭little sis...


    Dreading this exam because I know I won't get it done on time...
    Hoping to speed through the short Q's and give more time to the long questions :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭ejayy


    Anyone have notes on industrial and consumer conflict?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭HauntedGhost


    Does anyone have any Predictions for Business?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭ejayy


    What I think will come up:
    Sale of goods act
    Contract
    Trade union
    Maslow meetings
    Ratio (don't know which)
    Marketing
    Market segmentation
    Teamwork
    National consumer agency
    Management activities
    Product ideas


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭caolan1996


    what about the ABQ i am really dreading that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭ejayy


    Hate the Abu so honestly couldn't tell you! I have only ever answered one :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Break even analysis predicted. I'd expect a product life cycle, stages in new product development or business plans to come up along side it. Would be a lovely question for those of us doing accounting :rolleyes:

    I'd study Europe/International environment well. We know question 3 is always the same kind of stuff.

    The ABQ should be quite doable. I'd predict the skills/characteristics of Entrepreneurs (not much else they could put for enterprise), Industrial relations in some form (conflict maybe), then communication/planning for the third part. Could be a bit of contract law too but I doubt it, it would be nice tho.

    Hoping for A1 :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 sifnband


    Dreading this exam so much :( I'm just practising long and short questions over and over and over...so ****ed though :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭caolan1996


    Aspiring wrote: »
    Break even analysis predicted. I'd expect a product life cycle, stages in new product development or business plans to come up along side it. Would be a lovely question for those of us doing accounting :rolleyes:

    I'd study Europe/International environment well. We know question 3 is always the same kind of stuff.

    The ABQ should be quite doable. I'd predict the skills/characteristics of Entrepreneurs (not much else they could put for enterprise), Industrial relations in some form (conflict maybe), then communication/planning for the third part. Could be a bit of contract law too but I doubt it, it would be nice tho.

    Hoping for A1 :)

    i am going to attempt a ABQ today how should i go about answering it i am not very good at them and how long should i spend on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    caolan1996 wrote: »
    i am going to attempt a ABQ today how should i go about answering it i am not very good at them and how long should i spend on it

    Hey if you look in the beginning of your business papers they have a guideline for time.

    For ABQ's I always follow the formula "State, explain, example"

    Say for 2009 (A)

    I'd first look at it and say "Ok, 20 marks, so I need 4 points".
    That means you need to know 4 enterprising skills or characteristics (I'd go 2 and 2), four explanations of what each means (like a definition) and 4 examples (quotes from the text)

    My first point would be something like:

    It is clear from reading the above extract that Liam has self-confidence in his business. This is a key characteristic of entrepreneurs. It means having the belief that your product/service can be successful and compete in the wider market with competitors. Liam's self confidence is a valuable characteristic to have as it will ensure his future success.
    "Liam's knowledge and belief in his product"


    I just made that up on the spot so it's not likely to be perfect, but you get the idea :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭caolan1996


    Aspiring wrote: »
    Hey if you look in the beginning of your business papers they have a guideline for time.

    For ABQ's I always follow the formula "State, explain, example"

    Say for 2009 (A)

    I'd first look at it and say "Ok, 20 marks, so I need 4 points".
    That means you need to know 4 enterprising skills or characteristics (I'd go 2 and 2), four explanations of what each means (like a definition) and 4 examples (quotes from the text)

    My first point would be something like:

    It is clear from reading the above extract that Liam has self-confidence in his business. This is a key characteristic of entrepreneurs. It means having the belief that your product/service can be successful and compete in the wider market with competitors. Liam's self confidence is a valuable characteristic to have as it will ensure his future success.
    "Liam's knowledge and belief in his product"


    I just made that up on the spot so it's not likely to be perfect, but you get the idea :)

    thanks for part say part b or c do i still need to link it to the text and should i use headings or not ?


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