****2014 LC English Paper Two 2014 - Higher Level - Before and after discussion****

Only6days

What are we all cramming this evening, ladies and gentleman ?

EoghanIRL

English

Only6days

What a humorous response

EoghanIRL

Only6days wrote: »

What a humorous response

Well you sir have a good sense of humour .

Osmosis Jones

Crayons...up my nostrils.

robman60

-Dickinson for poetry
-GVV for comparative
-Kathy as a narrator and the horrible reality in Never Let Me Go for the single text.

mike123!

Engineering & English!

K6Y

Banking on Dickinson.. I'll half learn Heaney, Bishop and Larkin
The comparative should be piss easy, but the Macbeth could be ehh..

Aarong9224

Here is a great macbeth summary , i suggest you all watch it to get the story back in your heads

/watch?v=uzAujyWpK_s

Jones82

Anyone have any notes / essay on the witches? I doubt it'll come up but just in case

Kyro

Dickinson.
General Vision and Viewpoint.

Banking on them coming up - don't know any other poems from any other poet.

Not sure what I'll do for Macbeth yet.

eoin14

If anyone has an essay on Banquo on MacDuff together I'd be willing to swap. I've lots of A sample answers, just not for these two together and people are saying they may come up!
DM me pleeease!

LH_

Honestly panicking about paper 2. I vaguely know Yeats, Dickinson and Heaney and I might as well throw Heaney out the window.

Any tips for last minute cramming for Dickinson and Yeats?

Should I just try and learn their poems with language used(Alliteration, Assonance, Repetition etc..)

or how should I go about it?

gal555

I'm struggling with knowing what to cram at this stage....
I've gone for GVV for comparative,
the appeal of macbeth in general and a few characters like LM and Banquo
but the poetry is killing me!
I have Dickinson and Yeats down...struggling with Heaney and cant decide whether it's worth it doing a fourth poet

gal555

LH_ wrote: »

Honestly panicking about paper 2. I vaguely know Yeats, Dickinson and Heaney and I might as well throw Heaney out the window.

Any tips for last minute cramming for Dickinson and Yeats?

Should I just try and learn their poems with language used(Alliteration, Assonance, Repetition etc..)

or how should I go about it?

Well you've picked good poets to work on....
Both Yeats and Dickinson progress through their poetry almost as if theres a story depending on your order.

Dickinson can pretty much be mostly based around style.....I centre her poetry around Hope is the thing with feathers and the fact that each dash at the end of her more pessimistic poems leave us in the knowledge that hope will save her again.
Hope that helps in some way

Daledge

I don't know whether it suits anyone other then myself but my advice is to literally write out quotes again and again and again and again until you know them. Forget notes, write quotes. Then if you've the slightest idea what the poem is basically about, you should be able to mould your answers around your quotes. Worked for me in the mocks anyway.

giraffegoat

Daledge wrote: »

I don't know whether it suits anyone other then myself but my advice is to literally write out quotes again and again and again and again until you know them. Forget notes, write quotes. Then if you've the slightest idea what the poem is basically about, you should be able to mould your answers around your quotes. Worked for me in the mocks anyway.

Exactly. If you're relatively intelligent you can get very high marks in English only having studied quotes

iWin1010

Quick question do you need to use quotes throughout your comparative answer?
I asked my teacher and she said no, but to be honest she's a sh!t teacher. I used them in my mocks and it looks like I got rewarded for it. Any suggestions??

gal555

Our teacher said it really does strengthen your arguments particularly for GVV for some reason.
But when I use quotes I literally use one worded ones and I got near full marks in the mocks....but thats the mocks so I dont know

anklebiters

so I'm studying GVAV.
I'm doing: men's actions overpowering women's emotions, duties and the American dream.

But I'm wondering if American dream might be too like cultural context.
What do you think is it ok or would I lose marks etc.

Mayo4sam14

So are we ruling heaney out?

2thousand14

Mayo4sam14 wrote: »

So are we ruling heaney out?

could well happen that he will appear in both papers

nailforhammer

OK so you know the way for Cultural Context you can talk about the comparatives under different headings like role of men, role of women, children in society etc. I want to know for theme or issue if you used the same kind of headings to talk about the theme would that be wrong?
My theme is power so if I talked about the power of women, the power of men and then the power of children would I be marked poorly because it seems kind of like Cultural C.?

griffin246

ugh this is killing me, what do people think the macbeth question will be? lady macbeth? kingship? good V evil? help..

onethreefive

For the Cultural Context would I be all right if I am able to write lengthy meaningful content on Money, Marriage, Religion and Gender?

RAnderson1995

Mayo4sam14 wrote: »

So are we ruling heaney out?

not necessarily, two different sets of people write each paper so he could easily be on both!!

onethreefive

Please let Heaney, Dickinson or Yeats come up. Otherwise I have quite possibly failed English

RAnderson1995

onethreefive wrote: »

Please let Heaney, Dickinson or Yeats come up. Otherwise I have quite possible failed English

I NEED Yeats on this paper! I could write a decent Heaney or Dickinson essay, but I love writing about Yeats!

Janeh9

I'm studying Mahon and Dickinson and looking over Yeats for poetry

I've ignored everything else because I generally do well in Macbeth and there's just too much to cram for the comparative, I'm hoping knowing the basic storylines will be enough to get me a B in it, hoping for Cultural Context, hate Vision and Viewpoint, not mad about Theme.

oncex

Have the witches ever come up on their own? I don't have any points for them

AtomicKoala

oncex wrote: »

Have the witches ever come up on their own? I don't have any points for them

http://webofnotes.wordpress.com/2014/04/14/macbeth-past-and-sample-exam-questions/

Yes, in 1983 and 1953. Every 30 years, maybe they'll come up this year :pac:

im stuck! cnt tink of gud name

What are the chances that theme will come up on the comparative ?

MightyMandarin

im stuck! cnt tink of gud name wrote: »

What are the chances that theme will come up on the comparative ?

About the same as cultural context. It's highly unlikely both will come up.

TheBoss11

Why are people doubting CC?

Mayo4sam14

For the comparative can you just write about two texts or do you have to talk about the three??

ms.tinx

Ok so we were only taught cultural context nd theme r issue abuse of power which is more likely to come up..... freaking out here :-/

MightyMandarin

Mayo4sam14 wrote: »

For the comparative can you just write about two texts or do you have to talk about the three??

Refer to 3 in your essay, but you can talk about 2 in a paragraph if you want. Some texts eg Casablanca, have very little to write about under certain headings eg Religion, so I normally just write about 2 texts under Religion. I would only do this sparingly though.

sifnband

Mayo4sam14 wrote: »

For the comparative can you just write about two texts or do you have to talk about the three??

I think it says you must refer to at least two (don't take my word for that) but it's best to refer to all three

sifnband

Dream paper:
- Dickinson
-Lady Macbeth/Banquo
-General Vision and Viewpoint

ms.tinx

Mayo4sam14 wrote: »

For the comparative can you just write about two texts or do you have to talk about the three??

3 but the question might split it into 2 parts a) compare 2 nd b) discuss the other

TheBoss11

ms.tinx wrote: »

Ok so we were only taught cultural context nd theme r issue abuse of power which is more likely to come up..... freaking out here :-/

One of them has to come up, I'd probably say theme

onethreefive

I am completely scewed for Macbeth. I don't think I know enough. So paranoid I'm going to fail English

b0gg3r

You can answer on two Texts if the question specifies "At least TWO texts".

In terms of length (I know it's not a about length) is this enough?

Poetry: 4-4.5 pages
Unseen poetry: 1-1.5 pages
Comparative: 5-6 pages
Macbeth: 4.5 pages

jazz101

Why are people doubting cultural context coming up?

b0gg3r

jazz101 wrote: »

Why are people doubting cultural context coming up?

I think because it came up last year.

gal555

sifnband wrote: »

Dream paper:
- Dickinson
-Lady Macbeth/Banquo
-General Vision and Viewpoint

I am the exact same.
Keep the fingers crossed!!

jazz101

b0gg3r wrote: »

I think because it came up last year.

Uh oh. It's the only one I'm confident answering.

Just to clarify.. am I right in saying that at least two of GVV, CC and Theme will definitely come up?

Aarong9224

jazz101 wrote: »

Just to clarify.. am I right in saying that at least two of GVV, CC and Theme will definitely come up?

Yep two of those.

sifnband

jazz101 wrote: »

Just to clarify.. am I right in saying that at least two of GVV, CC and Theme will definitely come up?

Yes

jazz101

Lovely, I might be OK so. Thanks for that!

b0gg3r

What length are ye writing for yer answer?