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    #812
    28064212
    Registered Users Posts: 10,512 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    walshb wrote: »
    How comparable or effective is running threadmill over 5-6 k compared to the road? Same pace and incline on both?

    You're not really going to be able to compare them, there's too many variables (hardness of surface, wind outside, indoor temperature, threadmill calibration to name a handful). Compare by heartrate and/or effort "feel", but the treadmill is not a substitute, it's a supplement. Better than, say, cycling

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    #813
    BeepBeep67
    Registered Users Posts: 8,080 ✭✭✭BeepBeep67


    walshb wrote: »
    How comparable or effective is running threadmill over 5-6 k compared to the road? Same pace and incline on both?

    Normal rule of thumb is to set the treadmill at 1 - 1.5% incline, this balances the lack of wind resistance that you will get outside.

    Maybe it's a mental thing (or a calibration thing), but I always feel like I'm working harder on the treadmill at the same pace.

    I've recently started wearing the Fenix2 and run-hrm when I'm on the treadmill and it's giving me a Garmin calculated pace of about 15 secs per mile faster than the treadmill.


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    #814
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,960 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    BeepBeep67 wrote: »
    Normal rule of thumb is to set the treadmill at 1 - 1.5% incline, this balances the lack of wind resistance that you will get outside.

    Maybe it's a mental thing (or a calibration thing), but I always feel like I'm working harder on the treadmill at the same pace.

    I've recently started wearing the Fenix2 and run-hrm when I'm on the treadmill and it's giving me a Garmin calculated pace of about 15 secs per mile faster than the treadmill.

    I am the opposite. Feels to me that the threadmill is much easier. I hope I am not fooled come race time.


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    #815
    An_Reathai
    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭An_Reathai


    walshb wrote: »
    How comparable or effective is running threadmill over 5-6 k compared to the road? Same pace and incline on both?

    I find them fairly comparable, with the treadmill feeling perhaps a little harder but as someone suggested that could be more of a mental/boredom thing.

    A lot of people suggest that running on a treadmill is no preparation for running on the road but when I did my first Half-Marathon, about 99% of my prep was done on a treadmill and I found the transition to the road was no problem at all.


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    #816
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,960 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    An_Reathai wrote: »
    I find them fairly comparable, with the treadmill feeling perhaps a little harder but as someone suggested that could be more of a mental/boredom thing.

    A lot of people suggest that running on a treadmill is no preparation for running on the road but when I did my first Half-Marathon, about 99% of my prep was done on a treadmill and I found the transition to the road was no problem at all.

    But surely the added condition that you have to propel your body forwards on the road or track makes the road that bit more strenuous/tough?


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    #817
    sarkakos
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭sarkakos


    some things are ver curious! i agree


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    #818
    BeepBeep67
    Registered Users Posts: 8,080 ✭✭✭BeepBeep67


    walshb wrote: »
    But surely the added condition that you have to propel your body forwards on the road or track makes the road that bit more strenuous/tough?

    I personally wouldn't like to do all my training on a treadmill - unless I was training for a treadmill race ;).
    But I do find it good balance, I have one at home and use it for early morning easy runs in the winter, when I just roll out of bed and stick on a T and shorts and don't worry about what's happening outside. Have also used for the odd session when conditions (icy, too windy or travelling) would have an impact on the quality of a session.
    I do find it comparable HR wise, so it is giving a very similar cardio workout, but obviously you benefit from training specifics, including surface.


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    #819
    Krusty_Clown
    Registered Users Posts: 19,502 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Random running question: Why do people insist on using the word threadmill?
    Have they any idea how ludicrous it sounds?

    Obligatory smiley face -> :)


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    #820
    BeepBeep67
    Registered Users Posts: 8,080 ✭✭✭BeepBeep67


    Krusty_Clown wrote: »
    Random running question: Why do people insist on using the word threadmill?
    Have they any idea how ludicrous it sounds?

    Obligatory smiley face -> :)

    Isn't that what Boards is?


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    #821
    28064212
    Registered Users Posts: 10,512 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    Krusty_Clown wrote: »
    Random running question: Why do people insist on using the word threadmill?
    Have they any idea how ludicrous it sounds?
    "Sounds" or "looks"? Because "sounds" will depend on where in Ireland you are. They might be spelling it wrong in their head, but unintentionally pronouncing it correctly :)

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    #822
    An_Reathai
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    walshb wrote: »
    But surely the added condition that you have to propel your body forwards on the road or track makes the road that bit more strenuous/tough?

    All I can say is that I didn't find it any tougher. I always put the treadmill to 1-1.5% incline and off I went.

    Having said that, as soon as I actually started running on the road, I left the treadmill behind and only ever use it now as a last resort as the treadmill is so monotonous.


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    #823
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,960 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    28064212 wrote: »
    "Sounds" or "looks"? Because "sounds" will depend on where in Ireland you are. They might be spelling it wrong in their head, but unintentionally pronouncing it correctly :)

    I couldn't have explained that better.


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    #824
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    Krusty_Clown wrote: »
    Random running question: Why do people insist on using the word threadmill?
    Have they any idea how ludicrous it sounds?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3y0CD2CoCs


    One of my favourite sketches


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    #825
    Krusty_Clown
    Registered Users Posts: 19,502 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    walshb wrote: »
    I couldn't have explained that better.
    Huh? :confused: I reckon 28064212 was making a joke about regional dialects. C'mon - we're all grown-ups here. The word doesn't include the letter 'h', and when spoken, shouldn't include the 'th' sound. [tred-mil].


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    #826
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,960 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Krusty_Clown wrote: »
    Huh? :confused: I reckon 28064212 was making a joke about regional dialects. C'mon - we're all grown-ups here. The word doesn't include the letter 'h', and when spoken, shouldn't include the 'th' sound. [tred-mil].

    Treadmill. Happy now. Jeez, relax!


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    #827
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,960 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    BTW, I'm a divil for the 'th' pronouncing even when it's not there. Mystery solved!


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    #828
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Anybody know if the Munster Masters Cross Country is over 35s up or over 40s up?

    The form on Munster Athletics website has over 35s. However, our county championship in Limerick this year had the Masters at over 40s.


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    #829
    BeepBeep67
    Registered Users Posts: 8,080 ✭✭✭BeepBeep67


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Anybody know if the Munster Masters Cross Country is over 35s up or over 40s up?

    The form on Munster Athletics website has over 35s. However, our county championship in Limerick this year had the Masters at over 40s.

    Can only speak from Wicklow / Leinster in that the individuals start at O35 and the teams are split into O35+ and O50+.


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    #830
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    BeepBeep67 wrote: »
    Can only speak from Wicklow / Leinster in that the individuals start at O35 and the teams are split into O35+ and O50+.

    Cheers for that. Think it may be only a Limerick thing.


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    #831
    ultrapercy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Cheers for that. Think it may be only a Limerick thing.

    The lead in Masters ageing is taken from the world governing body. The IAAF have yo yoed between 35 and 40 as the entry point for mens masters events over the last few years. They have settled, for the time being at least, on 35. Some races and areas are slower to adopt the latest ruling,but 35 it should be in all counties as thats the wy it is at national level.


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    #832
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    ultrapercy wrote: »
    The lead in Masters ageing is taken from the world governing body. The IAAF have yo yoed between 35 and 40 as the entry point for mens masters events over the last few years. They have settled, for the time being at least, on 35. Some races and areas are slower to adopt the latest ruling,but 35 it should be in all counties as thats the wy it is at national level.

    Thanks.

    Our county is ahead of IAAF rulings. It used to be over 35s and now its over 40s :D


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    #833
    Ososlo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Why is there a Saucony runner called "Saucony Kilkenny XC Spike"??? What/why/how Kilkenny????


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    #834
    28064212
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    Ososlo wrote: »
    Why is there a Saucony runner called "Saucony Kilkenny XC Spike"??? What/why/how Kilkenny????
    According to AKW:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057125587

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    #835
    Krusty_Clown
    Registered Users Posts: 19,502 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Why is there a Saucony runner called "Saucony Kilkenny XC Spike"??? What/why/how Kilkenny????

    Let's not forget the Kinvara and the Omni (so named after the Omniplex cinema in Wexford).


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    #836
    Thargor
    Registered Users Posts: 17,890 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    http://answers.saucony.com/answers/7515-en_us/product/4-109350/mens-kinvara-3-questions-answers/questions.htm?sort=recentq
    Why the name: 'Kinvara'?

    It's a castle in Ireland. You're supposed to imagine yourself running through the Irish countryside with the rock fences and greenery...
    Errr the castle in the village of Kinvara is Dun Guaire, so Saucony arent even too sure themselves :D


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    #837
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    What about the Virrata, then? :confused:


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    #838
    conavitzky
    Registered Users Posts: 305 ✭✭conavitzky


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    What about the Virrata, then? :confused:
    I believe virratta was the name of the captain of one of the Spanish armada ships lost off the west coast of ireland in 1588......


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    #839
    dintbo
    Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭dintbo


    Krusty_Clown wrote: »
    Omni (so named after the Omniplex cinema in Wexford).

    The rest of these sound a bit sketchy but this one is definitely true!!!


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    #840
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,960 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    How accurate are the long jump measuring rules in the major tournaments? Is it down to humans to decide where the athlete lands? And, is it live? No chance for them to watch a video of the jump?


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    #841
    28064212
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    walshb wrote: »
    How accurate are the long jump measuring rules in the major tournaments? Is it down to humans to decide where the athlete lands? And, is it live? No chance for them to watch a video of the jump?
    Why would they need to see a video? The sand records where the athlete lands. If the athlete manages to land on the sand softly enough to bounce without leaving a mark, they probably deserve the extra few feet

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