Way to go Sinn Fein

steddyeddy

Well educated? There are very few men I would call intelligent In FG or FF.

blackbaron

steddyeddy wrote: »

Well educated? There are very few men I would call intelligent In FG or FF.

He says, having most likely never interacted with any candidate from any of the parties beyond a few angry words on the doorstep.

Son Of A Vidic

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Way to go Sinn Fein. Sinn Fein bashing???

Could it have been any clearer?

Bannasidhe

donegal__road wrote: »

Yes, I know this... and he was also present at the planning of the assassination of Michael Collins.

Both he and Childers were British spies.

Was he?

As a historian I would very much like to see your evidence for this.

LordSutch

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Now that the election is over and Sinn Féin appear to be doing quite well. There'll probably be a corresponding drop off in Sinn Féin bashing threads. But I'm predicting that the next spike in such threads, will probably occur 7-10 day before the next election.

Not forgetting all the pro Sinn Fein threads that always pop up before an election, usually started by people with just one or two posts, who then stop posting after the dust has settled :cool:

I seem to recall just before the last general election when there were about ten or eleven 'Pro Sinn Fein Threads' all running at the same time, with just one or two FF threads and one FG thread also in the mix at the same time!

What does that tell ya?

steddyeddy

blackbaron wrote: »

He says, having most likely never interacted with any candidate from any of the parties beyond a few angry words on the doorstep.

Lol no I didn't? I talked to Brian Hayes and Harris in UCD at a society thing. Not what I would call the right stuff

Nodin

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Fourth behind Independents, FG and FF. Hardly call it a victory in the current climate. That's as good as their support will ever get. Everyone else knows what they are and will never vote for them, enjoy your 'victory' while it lasts.

Yez said that the last time.

Smidge

blackbaron wrote: »

Mary Lou McDonald held one of the worst attendance records in history as an MEP. It won't take much for Boylan to improve on that.



Hahaha. Brilliant. There is nothing "educated" about SF, or indeed their supporters.



Well, they have absolutely zero feasible policies and have shown themselves to be only capable of spouting populist nonsense that appeals to the lowest common denominator...so a bit of a difference there. Well, unless you're comparing them to the crusties at People Before Profit or the Socialist Workers Party. Not much of a difference there.



Here's hoping they're less of an embarrassment than Mary Lou was. Well, hell, with Ming there to roar nonsense at any given opportunity, Ireland will be embarrassed enough so if SF can keep their mouths shut over there they'll probably be a net positive.

Well now, that should put the oikes in their place :rolleyes:
You see this is precisely the reason that FF/FG and their ilk are doing poorly. The "lower classes" and this includes workers not just social welfare scroungers(which I'm sure you will agree thats what they are)aren't ignorant at all. They are most certainly and painfully aware of how the government has treated the with exactly the same kind of regard as you have spouted in this post.
That's the thing with the "lower classes".
Fortunes are made on their backs but every so often it becomes too much for them to bear and then the worm turns.

.jacksparrow.

Shinner bots, gets me everytime!

padma

Ah ff and fg...protectors of peadophiles for the past 80 years...oversaw the state run punishment institutions for single mothers and orphans..

Nodin

LordSutch wrote: »

Not forgetting all the pro Sinn Fein threads that always pop up before an election, usually started by people with just one or two posts, who then stop posting after the dust has settled :cool:

I seem to recall just before the last general election when there were about ten or eleven 'Pro Sinn Fein Threads' all running at the same time, with just one or two FF threads and one FG thread also in the mix at the same time!

What does that tell ya?

You made a complaint in feedback. I counted those threads and the majority were started with an anti-sf op. As has been the case here recently.

What does that tell you?

Jonny Blaze

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Ah ok ... i see now, it was all just an error of linguistics the whole time.

So just to be sure lets clear this up -

Neither the Republic of Ireland, nor DeValera were in any way pro-nazi/pro-Germany at the time of WW2.

I mean you'd be willing to say that right.

I'm afraid I wouldn't accept that at all.

Like any historical issue there are shades of grey that exist which fly in the face of the accepted view.

To say that there were no Irish nazi sympathisers / collaborators would be no more true than to say that there were no german nazi detractors or american nazi sympathisers.

In this case however there were clear plans made by the IRA / IRB which were made with direct input and collaboration from the nazi's.

See also Plan Kathleen

Iwasfrozen

Smidge wrote: »

Well now, that should put the oikes in their place :rolleyes:
You see this is precisely the reason that FF/FG and their ilk are doing poorly. The "lower classes" and this includes workers not just social welfare scroungers(which I'm sure you will agree thats what they are)aren't ignorant at all. They are most certainly and painfully aware of how the government has treated the with exactly the same kind of regard as you have spouted in this post.
That's the thing with the "lower classes".
Fortunes are made on their backs but every so often it becomes too much for them to bear and then the worm turns.

Workers of the world unite, eh Comrade?

Son Of A Vidic

LordSutch wrote: »

Not forgetting all the pro Sinn Fein threads that always pop up before an election, usually started by people with just one or two posts, who then stop posting after the dust has settled :cool:

Sorry, the only threads in my face all week here, are those I was referencing earlier.

LordSutch wrote: »

I seem to recall just before the last general election when there were about ten or eleven 'Pro Sinn Fein Threads' all running at the same time, with just one or two FF threads and one FG thread also in the mix at the same time!

What does that tell ya?

It tells me if there really was 10 or 11 threads like you claim? Then based on the usual patterns, there must have been at least 30-40 bashing threads. With probably an even greater number of mystery posters, re-regs and the like.

Smidge

padma wrote: »

Ah ff and fg...protectors of peadophiles for the past 80 years...oversaw the state run punishment institutions for single mothers and orphans..

But don't you know?
That was fine as these people weren't really of value or standing and probably had little or no education.
A lot of people in this country really forget themselves.

dxhound2005

LordSutch wrote: »

Not forgetting all the pro Sinn Fein threads that always pop up before an election, usually started by people with just one or two posts, who then stop posting after the dust has settled :cool:

I seem to recall just before the last general election when there were about ten or eleven 'Pro Sinn Fein Threads' all running at the same time, with just one or two FF threads and one FG thread also in the mix at the same time!

What does that tell ya?

And I recall the poll thread which put SF on 37% making them the largest party in the country 10% ahead of FG in second place. They have always been over represented on AH in political threads. It may be part of their grassroots strategy making it's way into the new media.

umop.episdn

Smidge wrote: »

But don't you know?
That was fine as these people weren't really of value or standing and probably had little or no education.
A lot of people in this country really forget themselves.

And using abused women & children to point score on boards.....that's a new low

padma

Smidge wrote: »

But don't you know?
That was fine as these people weren't really of value or standing and probably had little or no education.
A lot of people in this country really forget themselves.

They forget very fast as they were so busy suppressing those that stood against sectarianism, lack of civil rights who were marching the streets of Ireland...there they were hiding behind state run rte hoping to get re-elected by a frightened society.

Dan_Solo

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Workers of the world unite, eh Comrade?

What's your alternative? Bankers of the world unite?

Smidge

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Workers of the world unite, eh Comrade?

I wouldn't consider myself a communist by any manner of means, it has proven itself to be worse socially and economically for the poorer in the societies where it is practised.
Its just that there are so many posters who have a total disregard and dare I say it, contempt, for those who earn less or "appear" less educated than them. The class system in Ireland is becoming a greater beast than I would have ever imagined.
Its the scorn thats poured on certain sections of society that galls me.

Duckworth_Luas

Jonny Blaze wrote: »

I'm afraid I wouldn't accept that at all.

Like any historical issue there are shades of grey that exist which fly in the face of the accepted view.

To say that there were no Irish nazi sympathisers / collaborators would be no more true than to say that there were no german nazi detractors or american nazi sympathisers.

In this case however there were clear plans made by the IRA / IRB which were made with direct input and collaboration from the nazi's.

See also Plan Kathleen

Can you tell us more about how the Nazi U-boats were refueled in Ireland?

Bannasidhe

Dan_Solo wrote: »

What's your alternative? Bankers of the world unite?

They already did. That is the problem.

Wacker The Attacker

I cant wait for the inevitable crushing disappointment that the bulmers drinking, celtic supporting 'ra heads of Ireland will feel when their beloved shinners are finally shown up for the useless pack of morons that they really are.

One only needs to listen to the verbal diarrhoea that Pearse Doherty scutters from his mouth when asked on the economic matters facing our nation to realise that voting for these twots is almost as bad as voting for FF.

Not an idea between them.

I will be absolutely amazed if there is any discernible difference in anything after these election results

Iwasfrozen

Dan_Solo wrote: »

What's your alternative? Bankers of the world unite?

My alternative is cop on and stop talking nonsense.

Smidge

umop.episdn wrote: »

And using abused women & children to point score on boards.....that's a new low

You must have missed the pages in this thread all about Hitler so

umop.episdn

Smidge wrote: »

You must have missed the pages in this thread all about Hitler so

You might have had a point if Hitler was an Irish Catholic priest

rockatansky

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

I cant wait for the inevitable crushing disappointment that the bulmers drinking, celtic supporting 'ra heads of Ireland will feel when their beloved shinners are finally shown up for the useless pack of morons that they really are.

One only needs to listen to the verbal diarrhoea that Pearse Doherty scutters from his mouth when asked on the economic matters facing our nation to realise that voting for these twots is almost as bad as voting for FF.

Not an idea between them.

I will be absolutely amazed if there is any discernible difference in anything after these election results

Bad day at the office?

The Diabolical Monocle

Jonny Blaze wrote: »

I'm afraid I wouldn't accept that at all.

Like any historical issue there are shades of grey that exist which fly in the face of the accepted view.

To say that there were no Irish nazi sympathisers / collaborators would be no more true than to say that there were no german nazi detractors or american nazi sympathisers.

In this case however there were clear plans made by the IRA / IRB which were made with direct input and collaboration from the nazi's.

See also Plan Kathleen

Jonny - I think you are squirming at this stage.

So let me re-phrase just to give you minimal wriggle room.

Individual citizens aside, the Republic of Ireland as a state was not pro-nazi/pro-Germany at the time of WW2. - Yes or no.

DeValera was not pro-nazi/pro-Germany at the time of WW2.
- Yes or no.

Dan_Solo

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

My alternative is cop on and stop talking nonsense.

So your alternative to "workers unite" is personal abuse and an attempt to censor debate?
Got it now.

Jonny Blaze

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Can you tell us more about how the Nazi U-boats were refueled in Ireland?

Think that's been widely debunked no?