Manchester United Superthread 2014 Mod warning Post #1880 #2613

Paul Tergat

The fantasy lineups are pretty annoying

BigBabyTaylor

TheDoc wrote: »

Just read the RVP interview. He's so refreshing. Idomt know what it is but he just seems to not speak like a machine. Made some poignant points.

One of our star strikeers giving Moyes a big thumbs up. Fellaini coming out saying he owes this manager so much and will do all he can to ensure he succeeds. Rooney's well documented positive stuff.

Its what we needed a lot earlier. The big guns giving big backing. Hopefully can get things bonded a bit tighter and the team go on a vicous run. Potential wishful thinking but maybe this will put the **** to bed and RVP can hit some end of season form.

He is a star man...won us the title to a certain respect last year...should be dragging us out of this mess. Hopefully willing to dawn that responsibility

I assume that behind the scenes Moyes is impressive. If it wasn't players could just say nothing. But the fact is they are always positive when speaking about him.

RVP in a bit of a stink last while...hopefully a chat was had..he cleared his head...is over Fergie and we can move on.

I'd be gutted if he left in truth.

First thing he has to do is start contributing to general play more. His play really has been dire the last couple of games. While he really is great at scoring goals he needs to do more to help his team mates which in turn should create more chances for him to score

shadowcomplex

n32 wrote: »

I think the biggest problem with him leaving now would be having to spend a hell of a lot of money to replace him which would eat into our budget thats needed more urgently for midfield/LB/CB. We wont get much for him at this stage of his career but trying to replace him would be astronomical money

We wouldnt, Rooney could play that lone striker role

shadowcomplex

Paul Tergat wrote: »

The fantasy lineups are pretty annoying

You'll Live

Mitch Connor

Whatsisname wrote: »

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Mar/robin-van-persie-happy-and-wants-to-stay-at-manchester-united.aspx?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=ManUtd&pageNo=2

Very surprised by this, honestly I would put money down on not all being great - just from looking at RVPs performances as much as anything else.

I did say the other day I had heard the RVP vs Moyes stuff may have been blown out of proportion, and they it may be that things are ok/will be fine - this interview certainly adds to that.

At the same time, I am always sceptical of what footballers say - all of them, always!

bucketybuck

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Very surprised by this, honestly I would put money down on not all being great - just from looking at RVPs performances as much as anything else.

I did say the other day I had heard the RVP vs Moyes stuff may have been blown out of proportion, and they it may be that things are ok/will be fine - this interview certainly adds to that.

At the same time, I am always sceptical of what footballers say - all of them, always!

Its somewhere in the middle I would say. I don't really pay any attention to media statements put out, far more telling is the demeanour on the field and in that regard things clearly aren't good. On the other hand, I very much doubt the likes of Van Persie or Vidic are at open war with Moyes.

adox

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

"I can tell you that Moyes’ sessions and the things he says in his team meetings are spot-on. I really enjoy working under him and I’m absolutely convinced things will pick up and we’ll turn it around."

Those don't sound like the words of a man playing for a clueless manager

Meh, I wouldnt take it as gospel.

Moyes while not clueless, is totally out of his depth at Utd.

A few sound bites from a player isnt going to convince me other wise.

TheDoc

BigBabyTaylor wrote: »

First thing he has to do is start contributing to general play more. His play really has been dire the last couple of games. While he really is great at scoring goals he needs to do more to help his team mates which in turn should create more chances for him to score

The recent formations should HELP him in truth. While he does have the ability to be a top link up player, he doesn't need to be. Van Persie is most dangerous when he is being direct, with little time for thought.

A through ball, a quick pass, something that before it hits his foot, he knows hes going to lash it.

Having Rooney, Mata, Janners/Kagawa playing in behind him, provides all the creativity and linkup play required. Personally I think he needs to just get as far up the pitch as possible and take those little positions that he does so well, and just bury the chances that come his way.

bucketybuck

TheDoc wrote: »

A through ball, a quick pass, something that before it hits his foot, he knows hes going to lash it.

Something that is completely lacking from Uniteds play this season.

Lord TSC

Is it too much to hope that RVP is now saying he wants to stay cause he has been told changes are coming (be they manager, player, tactical or otherwise) and is happy again?

Mitch Connor

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Is it too much to hope that RVP is now saying he wants to stay cause he has been told changes are coming (be they manager, player, tactical or otherwise) and is happy again?

My thought is similar to what I posted the other day.

Training had been a big issue - but has been basically sorted since a clear the air meeting late last year (where it was agreed RVP would go back to a more personalised training/fitness plan).

I believe tactics still are an issue with regards to team style and set up, for RVP. However, I would hope the new 'world class' players we are actively trying to get, and hopefully will get, in the summer will allow a transition to a better brand of football that Moyes feels he can't get from the current group. I think, maybe, RVP is privy to the same transfer info as Rooney and Mata, and is now thinking/hoping the same - that next year will be different because it will be a different/more capable midfield supporting the side.

bangkok

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Is it too much to hope that RVP is now saying he wants to stay cause he has been told changes are coming (be they manager, player, tactical or otherwise) and is happy again?

not a chance is there a new manager coming! you think fergie and the board would go behind moyes back? they would sack him before that happens...

Milkers

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

"I can tell you that Moyes’ sessions and the things he says in his team meetings are spot-on. I really enjoy working under him and I’m absolutely convinced things will pick up and we’ll turn it around."

Those don't sound like the words of a man playing for a clueless manager

It could be a clueless man playing for a clueless manager?

Mitch Connor

bangkok wrote: »

not a chance is there a new manager coming! you think fergie and the board would go behind moyes back? they would sack him before that happens...

I would think, should the board have decided to sack Moyes, discussion regarding the next manager, and approaches, would have taken place. It would seem rather foolish to sack Moyes without having the next move ready to be executed, or on the way.

Maximus Alexander

Milkers wrote: »

It could be a clueless man playing for a clueless manager?

Yeah it's well known that Van Persie knows nothing about football. Why do the papers give column inches to these ignorant outsiders?

Lord TSC

bangkok wrote: »

not a chance is there a new manager coming! you think fergie and the board would go behind moyes back? they would sack him before that happens...

I think, as I've said many a times before, that Moyes' contract would include a season review at the end of the season which would let them sack him at reduced compensation if he's not hit certain targets. I think, as things stand, he's not on track to hit those targets (Top 4 in the league, Quarter Finals in the CL, solid cup runs) so it could be likely he'll fail the season review. And I think if they know, or even suspect, that he's going to go, then they should be examining possibilities of who'd replace him.

And I think Moyes would be the very one who'd know that's going on, and would be looking to make sure it's not an issue by having a very, very strong run in to the summer. I don't think it would be behind Moyes' back at all, and if he doesn't realise that's a possibility at this stage, he's even more clueless than I thought...

Demosthenese

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

I think, as I've said many a times before, that Moyes' contract would include a season review at the end of the season which would let them sack him at reduced compensation if he's not hit certain targets. I think, as things stand, he's not on track to hit those targets (Top 4 in the league, Quarter Finals in the CL, solid cup runs) so it could be likely he'll fail the season review. And I think if they know that he's going to go, then they should be examining possibilities of who'd replace him.

And I think Moyes would be the very one who'd know that's going on, and would be looking to make sure it's not an issue by having a very, very strong run in to the summer. I don't think it would be behind Moyes' back at all, and if he doesn't realise that's a possibility at this stage, he's even more clueless than I thought...

So his contract has a clause that says they can review it and sack him at a reduced price? Based on a poor season ... wow how privy are you to have imagined that, i mean, SEEEN it.

Of course every club review their managers performance and decide where next to go, PL teams probably do it every quarter considering the amount of managers they've gone through this season alone. Yes, it is behind the managers backs - its the only way.

Lord TSC

Demosthenese wrote: »

So his contract has a clause that says they can review it and sack him at a reduced price? Based on a poor season ... wow how privy are you to have imagined that, i mean, SEEEN it.

Of course every club review their managers performance and decide where next to go, PL teams probably do it every quarter considering the amount of managers they've gone through this season alone. Yes, it is behind the managers backs - its the only way.

:rolleyes:

Not claiming to be privy or even to be super intelligent because of it. Just a response to this constant idea that Moyes can't be sacked or that the idea of cutting him is absurd.

bangkok

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I would think, should the board have decided to sack Moyes, discussion regarding the next manager, and approaches, would have taken place. It would seem rather foolish to sack Moyes without having the next move ready to be executed, or on the way.

a replacement is not even being discussed, what is being discussed is transfer targets for next season and working to have them transfers in place hopefully before the world cup begins....

really looking forward to the game on sunday, all Im worried about is the pace Liverpool have on the attack, suarez sterling and sturridge..... although I think Old Trafford will be rocking, electric atmosphere and united will win 2-1 with rvp scoring the winner

Mitch Connor

bangkok wrote: »

a replacement is not even being discussed, what is being discussed is transfer targets for next season and working to have them transfers in place hopefully before the world cup begins....

FFS - don't move the goal posts.

If United are not sacking Moyes - then of course no replacement is being discussed.

If United did plan to sack Moyes in the summer it would be another negligent disgrace from the club if they were not discussing a repalcement.

I did not say United are sacking him, or have discussed replacements - merely pointing out that IF they were to be sacking him, it would be crazy for them to be doing nothing regarding the aftermath.

bangkok

Mitch Connor wrote: »

FFS - don't move the goal posts.

If United are not sacking Moyes - then of course no replacement is being discussed.

If United did plan to sack Moyes in the summer it would be another negligent disgrace from the club if they were not discussing a repalcement.

I did not say United are sacking him, or have discussed replacements - merely pointing out that IF they were to be sacking him, it would be crazy for them to be doing nothing regarding the aftermath.

they are one of the best run clubs in the world so that is a given regarding a new manger IF they were replacing him....

Son Of A Vidic

LiamoSail wrote: »

Apparently Cantona's been arrested for hitting someone on a London Street

He was probably finishing off Matthew Simmons.:pac:

Mr.Micro

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Is it too much to hope that RVP is now saying he wants to stay cause he has been told changes are coming (be they manager, player, tactical or otherwise) and is happy again?

Poor RvP, will claim I only signed a new contract, because I was assured Moyes would be there for years. Rvp only cares about one thing......himself.

bangkok

Mr.Micro wrote: »

Poor RvP, will claim I only signed a new contract, because I was assured Moyes would be there for years. Rvp only cares about one thing......himself.

so do most player unfortunately...

Pro. F

Mr.Micro wrote: »

Poor RvP, will claim I only signed a new contract, because I was assured Moyes would be there for years. Rvp only cares about one thing......himself.

It's obvious that RvP is very driven to win trophies.

adox

bangkok wrote: »

they are one of the best run clubs in the world so that is a given regarding a new manger IF they were replacing him....

Didnt look like one of the best run clubs in the world, in the summer.
In fact it looked like a complete and utter mess.

KH25

adox wrote: »

Didnt look like one of the best run clubs in the world, in the summer.
In fact it looked like a complete and utter mess.

This summer is the clubs chance to make a statement and make up for last year. Lets hope they take it.

bangkok

adox wrote: »

Didnt look like one of the best run clubs in the world, in the summer.
In fact it looked like a complete and utter mess.

neither did Barcelona.......

new manager new ceo was always not going to run smoothly.....

United-Swansea last game of the season last year when utd gave all the Swansea fans flags to celebrate their capital 1 cup trophy win just shows how classy united really are..

Thecon21

bangkok wrote: »

a replacement is not even being discussed, what is being discussed is transfer targets for next season and working to have them transfers in place hopefully before the world cup begins....

How do you know it's not being discussed? The team would have had targets at the start of the season, as it stands, they are failing on all targets in cup competitions..

Is that not enough to even think about the possibility of a change?

bangkok

http://www.downvids.net/nani-amazing-goal-vs-arsenal--513291.html

Imagine Valencia did this?! :eek::eek::eek: