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The Tipperary GAA (Club and intercounty) Discussion thread 2014

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    Paul Curran supposed to on the way back soon also after a hip operation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    Hope that shoulder injury isn't too serious:

    http://www.hoganstand.com/Tipperary/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=212815

    I guess O'Brien was the seventh member of the Championship team...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Hope that shoulder injury isn't too serious:

    http://www.hoganstand.com/Tipperary/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=212815

    I guess O'Brien was the seventh member of the Championship team...

    damaged the colarbone and was advised to rest for 3 weeks, nothing too serious, Gar Ryan has rejoined the panel aswell following a long term injury.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    Love to see Gar Ryan get right and back to his best....

    The development of that superb under 21 team has been hampered by the loss of the two hard men who had immense work rates - Hennessy and Ryan - hopefully Ryan does not suffer the same fate as Hennessy- a huge loss to Tipp hurling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Love to see Gar Ryan get right and back to his best....

    The development of that superb under 21 team has been hampered by the loss of the two hard men who had immense work rates - Hennessy and Ryan - hopefully Ryan does not suffer the same fate as Hennessy- a huge loss to Tipp hurling

    Gar Ryan wasn't part of the u21 team in 2010, he is a year older than that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    He had a lot of underage success - must have won two minor All-Irelands?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    He had a lot of underage success - must have won two minor All-Irelands?

    Just the one, he was part of the 2006 team that stoped Joe Cannings bid for 3 in a row.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    You're right:

    Gearoid was born on August 26th, 1988. Gearoid plays for the Templederry Kenyons club. Gearoid made his National Hurling League debut against Cork in February 2009, scoring a point from play. Gearoid won an All-Ireland Minor Hurling medal with Tipperary in 2006, lining out at midfield in the final. Gearoid was also on the Tipperary Intermediate Hurling panel in 2007 and 2008 Gearoid was part of the Tipperary Under 21 Hurling panel in 2007, 2008 and 2009, winning a Munster medal in 2008. Gearoid made his Championship debut as a substitute against Cork in the 2009 Munster Senior Hurling Championship. Gearoid has won 3 Munster Senior Hurling medals. Gearoid Ryan won the man of the match award in the 2010 All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship Quarter-Final against Galway, scoring 1-2 from play. Gearoid played wing-forward on the Tipperary team which captured the 2010 All-Ireland Senior Hurling title, scoring a point in the final. Gearoid was nominated for an All-Star award in 2010 in the half-forward line and in 2011 at midfield. Gearoid lined out at wing-forward for the Munster hurlers in the 2012 Inter-Provincial competition.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    Tipperary (SH v Cork) – Darragh Egan (Kildangan); Paddy Stapleton (Borris-Ileigh), Conor O’Mahony (Newport), Conor O’Brien (Eire Og Annacarty / Donohill); James Barry (Upperchurch-Drombane), Brendan Maher (Borris-Ileigh), Shane McGrath (Ballinahinch); Kieran Bergin (Killenaule), James Woodlock (Drom & Inch); Denis Maher (Thurles Sarsfields), Noel McGrath (Loughmore-Castleiney), John O’Dwyer (Killenaule); Shane Bourke (JK Brackens), Seamus Callanan (Drom & Inch), Niall O’Meara (Kilruane MacDonaghs)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭ReacherCreature


    Good to see Niall O' Meara start but is corner forward the best place for him? I imagine he could come out to half forward - possible switch with Denis Maher? Is that his usual position?

    Cork have a new full back line so that area could be exposed.


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    Good to see Niall O' Meara start but is corner forward the best place for him? I imagine he could come out to half forward - possible switch with Denis Maher? Is that his usual position?

    Cork have a new full back line so that area could be exposed.

    Yeah i think NOM will go wing forward and Denis Maher will go corner or maybe Noel. Looking forward to seeing how Bill and James Barry will get on. Barry has been playing with unbelievable confidence this year for UCC and gave a tour de force when he came on last week.


  • Site Banned Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Spirit of 67


    The Tipperary SF Team to play Leitrim :

    1 Paul Fitzgearld
    2 Ger Mulhair
    3 Paddy Codd (Captain)
    4 John Coghlan
    5 Robbie Kiely
    6 Peter Acheson
    7 Donagh Leahy
    8 Steven O Brien
    9 George Hannigan
    10 Philip Austin
    11 Barry Grogan
    12 Ian Fahey
    13 Brian Fox
    14 Michael Quinlivan
    15 Conor Sweeney.

    O.k . Same team from the last day v Antrim even though Barry Grogan is in Australia for his brothers wedding :confused: . Anyway , best of luck to the lads , I will be there along with a Bus load of die hards . Win tomorrow and we are up !


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    The Tipperary SF Team to play Leitrim :

    1 Paul Fitzgearld
    2 Ger Mulhair
    3 Paddy Codd (Captain)
    4 John Coghlan
    5 Robbie Kiely
    6 Peter Acheson
    7 Donagh Leahy
    8 Steven O Brien
    9 George Hannigan
    10 Philip Austin
    11 Barry Grogan
    12 Ian Fahey
    13 Brian Fox
    14 Michael Quinlivan
    15 Conor Sweeney.

    O.k . Same team from the last day v Antrim even though Barry Grogan is in Australia for his brothers wedding :confused: . Anyway , best of luck to the lads , I will be there along with a Bus load of die hards . Win tomorrow and we are up !


    Like Sheldon in that episode of the big bang theory he might be there as a virtual presence. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    Anyway , best of luck to the lads , I will be there along with a Bus load of die hards . Win tomorrow and we are up !


    Well done Brave Hearts, hope plenty of "Slievenamon" and good craic all the way and for our away games and next year we will need a few more buses!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,205 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Great start for the footballers, 1.1 to no score so far 8 minutes gone.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭ReacherCreature


    5-11 (26) to 0-13 (13) in favour of Tipperary so far. Brilliant.

    Conor Sweeney with two goals. Ian Fahey, Philip Austin, Brian Fox all with one goal each.


  • Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭buggy beag


    That was a great win for the footballers Hopfully the hurlers follow suit MON DA PREMIER!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    Ridiculously open game - very enjoyable - lot of experience being gained for the newer lads - poor jason forde is zapped of all confidence - he'll come good though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,205 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Good win for the hurlers, 3:25 to 4:19

    Got off to a great to a great start but failed to capitalise and let Cork back into the game.

    Another 4 goals conceded. For me curran will have to start against Limerick even if we have to push him out in a wheelchair. Darragh Egan didn't do himself any favours in the goals and was at fault for at least 2 goals.
    Stand out performers for me were bubbles, noel and callinan in the forwards, woodlock worked hard in midfield while brendan maher, James Barry and conor o'brien were the pick of the backs.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭buggy beag


    Ya Thought barry played Very well good find he is.jason forde does seem.short of confidence Not much went right for him when.he came on.noel mcgrath put in a good shift an seamie played well.when.he was ff.gleeson.is defo a better keeper imo egan has Very poor distribution doesn't seem to have the confidence to try it that much


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    Good day all round for Tipp fans.very loose game of hurling but enjoyable,well done to the new lads Niall O Meara and Dennis Maher both played well and Shane Burke got a couple of fine points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,763 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    5-11 (26) to 0-13 (13) in favour of Tipperary so far. Brilliant.

    Conor Sweeney with two goals. Ian Fahey, Philip Austin, Brian Fox all with one goal each.
    We're Tipps goals due to good forward play or bad defending?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Ompala


    Hard to know what to make of today's game to be honest.
    And very well done to the footballers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    Ompala wrote: »
    And very well done to the footballers.

    So Tipperary Footballers outscored every team in any division and will top the table.

    So next year let's move up another division playing all our home games in Semple Stadium. No more talk from hurling folk about not it not being viable to open the Stadium for the footballers. No harm to put on record how many Tipp hurling folk left the stadium before the football game against Clare. Dyed in the wool hurling supporters can stay away from the football games if they wish, that's their perogative, just give the stadium to the football team and they will do the business. I am aware that this post will be divisive but the time comes when you "must tell it as it is".

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  • Site Banned Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Spirit of 67


    Just in from Carrick on Shannon , great day . Decent Tipp support there . Forwards were brilliant , Conor Sweeney with 2-7 . We won at a canter for a finish , the difference in class was evident . Tipp should be well able for Division 3 next year . Alan Maloney got a run with 20 minutes to go and didn`t look sharp but good to see him back and when fully fit we will have some amount of quality finishers . Michael Quinlivan was moved out to midfield in the second half as was done against Clare and I feel that this is his best position . Really Looking forward to Limerick and the Championship now .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭swoofer


    Is it just me or was that ref for the tipp hurling game pretty poor? I watched on tv.

    And I am sure that goalkeeper taking the penalties was fouling the ball, ie throwing it with the hurley. A free is lift ball and strike. Look at callinan or others .

    but a great win and I would have been gutted if we lost. That first cork penalty was a joke. A s for John O' Dwyer = awesome.

    Next its Clare and that will be a corker. soory


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    Very good performance today. For the first time in this league our attack looked lethal for all of 70. Denis Maher and Niall O'Meara were a real tonic and at the real right time. They can only help not only the team but competition for places. O'Meara will be a huge player for Tipp in the coming years. He has all the attributes. I would hope the county are looking at Niall as the type of player that we need to be producing if we are to compete with the likes of Kilkenny, Dublin, and Clare. He is versatile, physical, and very skillful and proved that his reaction is very quick when he scored his goal.
    Noel and Seamie are playing like born again hurlers. Cant help thinking the bit of O'Shea psychology might have dropped the penny for them at long last.

    In terms of bench options the lack of strength in depth may catch us out but hopefully we're on the road to recovery at last. I had a feeling this team were only competing at 30% of what they were truly capable of and i think they can only get better.

    Well done to the footballers today on a wonderful performance up in Leitrim and credit to those who travelled up. Fair deuce ye're true blues (and golds).

    HON THE PREMIER!!!!


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    swoofer wrote: »
    Is it just me or was that ref for the tipp hurling game pretty poor? I watched on tv.

    And I am sure that goalkeeper taking the penalties was fouling the ball, ie throwing it with the hurley. A free is lift ball and strike. Look at callinan or others .

    but a great win and I would have been gutted if we lost. That first cork penalty was a joke. A s for John O' Dwyer = awesome.

    Next its Clare and that will be a corker. soory

    The Nash 21 is an amazing bit of skill but i just think a 21 should be taken from the 21 yard line and not the 14 yard line. If he is allowed steal a few yards then surely the opposition backs should also be allowed the same privileges from the line?

    I thought Egan had a poor game between the sticks. Cummins was agile as a cat even at 39 but Egan didnt even react to one or two of those shots. He conceded a penalty and made a cock up for the fourth goal when we looked to be nearly home and dry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    We've seen this before exciting wins and putting up high scores in the league. Hopefully it transfers to championship - Hopefully this time - it is a case of younger players playing themselves into the championship team and producing in championship. Or the extra competition causes players in possession of championship starts onto greater work-rate and performances due to the competition in the squad.

    Eoin kelly really struggled to get on the ball when he came on...

    Brendan Maher really dropped deep and protected the full back line - got a super point.

    I really liked James Barry's distribution into the forwards when he was at wing back - very good.

    Hopefully Seamus and Bourke can carry that form and work-rate of running into the championship.

    Electric from O'Dwyer.

    Egan was poor - he is no where that bad - just goes to show what pressure does sometimes - Glesson will get a chance now again I'd imagine...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭hawkwing


    I couldn't see the need in replacing 4 of the forwards who had all scored as we were running up a cricket score at the time.:confused: None of the replacements helped things and this could have cost us the game.It was at the other end that a few changes might have been more warranted.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭mags85


    The Nash 21 is an amazing bit of skill but i just think a 21 should be taken from the 21 yard line and not the 14 yard line. If he is allowed steal a few yards then surely the opposition backs should also be allowed the same privileges from the line?

    I thought Egan had a poor game between the sticks. Cummins was agile as a cat even at 39 but Egan didnt even react to one or two of those shots. He conceded a penalty and made a cock up for the fourth goal when we looked to be nearly home and dry.

    As soon as a player touches the sliotar the free is taken so the players should be able to charge down the free, they would have to run 7-10 yards and on nash before he strikes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,205 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    We didn't have any problem with those penalties when declan Ryan was hitting the back of the net.

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    mags85 wrote: »
    As soon as a player touches the sliotar the free is taken so the players should be able to charge down the free, they would have to run 7-10 yards and on nash before he strikes.

    Totally agree with this though werent Clare apprehended in the AI final from doing it if i recall? Bizarre really.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    We didn't have any problem with those penalties when declan Ryan was hitting the back of the net.

    Nash is right to play to the rules but was Declan Ryan stealing 7 yards and hitting them at that type of ferocious power? A 21 is a 21 at the end of the day

    As i said great bit of skill but if a striker is allowed steal 7 yards then so should the defenders as Mags said. Sauce for the goose and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,205 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Nash is right to play to the rules but was Declan Ryan stealing 7 yards and hitting them at that type of ferocious power? A 21 is a 21 at the end of the day

    As i said great bit of skill but if a striker is allowed steal 7 yards then so should the defenders as Mags said. Sauce for the goose and all that.

    Declan Ryan wasn't hitting them as good as Nash but he was definitely stealing yards.

    Personally I think the who penalty needs to be looked at.

    I mean If the forward goes around the goalkeeper and has a tap in but then the goalkeeper brings him down, instead of having a tap in the forward now needs to beat 3 players from 21 metres. I find that a little unfair.

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    We've seen this before exciting wins and putting up high scores in the league. Hopefully it transfers to championship - Hopefully this time - it is a case of younger players playing themselves into the championship team and producing in championship. Or the extra competition causes players in possession of championship starts onto greater work-rate and performances due to the competition in the squad.

    Eoin kelly really struggled to get on the ball when he came on...

    Brendan Maher really dropped deep and protected the full back line - got a super point.

    I really liked James Barry's distribution into the forwards when he was at wing back - very good.

    Hopefully Seamus and Bourke can carry that form and work-rate of running into the championship.

    Electric from O'Dwyer.

    Egan was poor - he is no where that bad - just goes to show what pressure does sometimes - Glesson will get a chance now again I'd imagine...

    Funny you mention that because i was just wondering is there similarities with Dublin in that when Cluxton was sent off then all of a sudden you had a goalkeeper on with little senior experience in at the deep end in Croker.

    Egan is a better goalkeeper then he showed yesterday and was excellent for the intermediates last year and id agree he probably needs more games in the league next year along with both Gleeson and Logue. The deputies might be suffering from lack of experience because Cummins was just so ridiculously good for so long. That said i think the current goalies have better puck out distribution. For me, Cummins needed to vary it slightly more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    mags85 wrote: »
    As soon as a player touches the sliotar the free is taken so the players should be able to charge down the free, they would have to run 7-10 yards and on nash before he strikes.

    A very good point indeed, in fact a player could be on top of him before he gets a second touch, just worried a little about the safety concerns of the onrushing player.

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    hawkwing wrote: »
    I couldn't see the need in replacing 4 of the forwards who had all scored as we were running up a cricket score at the time.:confused: None of the replacements helped things and this could have cost us the game.It was at the other end that a few changes might have been more warranted.


    Unless the forwards were spent. Personally i would have left both Denis Maher and Niall O'Meara on anyway. Didnt see the sense in bringing on Eoin or JOB. The team needed to maintain the pace of their attack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    O'Shea has definitely learned from last year especially about not showing your hand (hopefully):

    http://www.newstalk.ie/AUDIO:-Tipp-boss-Eamon-OShea-on-beating-Cork-and-their-evolution-


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  • Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭The Woodcock


    Great win for Tipp yesterday and a very entertaining game. This will be a tonic for the team and management who had supporters on their back the week before last. Competitive games are the best way to improve a team so here's hoping we can get one over on the Banner in 3 weeks and reach a league final. I thought the forwards did very well, there was the right balance of grafters and finishers. Denis Maher worked very hard and uses his size and strength well. Callanan's workrate has come on a ton during the league and it was good that he continued to work hard after hitting three wides late in the first half; on other occasions his head might have dropped and he would have been called ashore, but he kept plugging away and scored more in the second half. Bubbles is a natural forward, he can find space and is very accurate. It was great to see Noel McGrath and Brendan Maher back to their best. Along with Padraig Maher, these lads will be the ones to lead this team in the months ahead. Noel showed some terrific vision and grafted hard when the game was in the balance. Brendan Maher's point in the second half was pure inspiration. We have the hurlers in Tipp and as long as they apply themselves and work hard they will be contenders in 2014.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    Are there any players in particular that people would like to see get a game before championship is all that is left?


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    Are there any players in particular that people would like to see get a game before championship is all that is left?

    John Meagher if possible and it would be great if O'Shea could have a proper look at David Collins from Drom. Thought he was excellent for the u21s down in leeside in 2012 and said to have been doing very well in both training and the challenges early on in the year. Im not saying he is the second coming, but h definitely deserves a look.

    I have a feeling we could see retirements or perhaps even cuts yet so there could be vacancies on the panel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭Red Crow


    What's the story with Paul Curran lads?


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    Red Crow wrote: »
    What's the story with Paul Curran lads?

    Recovering from a hip operation i believe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 562 ✭✭✭Comordha


    Conor O'Brien is playing well this year too


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,205 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Comordha wrote: »
    Conor O'Brien is playing well this year too

    O'Brien always seems to have a good league, it's the championship in the summer where he tends to get found out.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    John Meagher if possible and it would be great if O'Shea could have a proper look at David Collins from Drom. Thought he was excellent for the u21s down in leeside in 2012 and said to have been doing very well in both training and the challenges early on in the year. Im not saying he is the second coming, but h definitely deserves a look.

    I have a feeling we could see retirements or perhaps even cuts yet so there could be vacancies on the panel.

    John Meagher is not involved and wont be untill the u21 Football campaign is over, David Collins was let go from the panel roughly 3-4 weeks ago.

    Seamus Kennedy and Michael Breen look the most likely of those that havent seen gametime as of yet.


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    John Meagher is not involved and wont be untill the u21 Football campaign is over, David Collins was let go from the panel roughly 3-4 weeks ago.

    Seamus Kennedy and Michael Breen look the most likely of those that havent seen gametime as of yet.


    I heard that Collins had been dropped and there was apparently a bit of surprise amongst the panel about it too but sure i suppose thats just rumours. Still hope he gets another crack at it because he looks to have a bit of potential from what i can see. He is a tough forward who is well able to win his own ball and thats what we have been lacking all along.

    Meagher probably wont see the league but may championship action yet which wouldnt surprise me.
    I would have thought Kennedy would be in the same boat as Meagher at the moment no? Breen was mentioned by O'Shea in that newstalk aftermatch interview alright. To be honest id totally forgotten about Breen. Was very good for the u21s last year and could well make an appearance yet. Andrew Ryan was another man who had a good partnership and understanding with both Barrett and Breen last year. Would you think he could be an option to draft in for the future?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    I heard that Collins had been dropped and there was apparently a bit of surprise amongst the panel about it too but sure i suppose thats just rumours. Still hope he gets another crack at it because he looks to have a bit of potential from what i can see. He is a tough forward who is well able to win his own ball and thats what we have been lacking all along.

    Meagher probably wont see the league but may championship action yet which wouldnt surprise me.
    I would have thought Kennedy would be in the same boat as Meagher at the moment no? Breen was mentioned by O'Shea in that newstalk aftermatch interview alright. To be honest id totally forgotten about Breen. Was very good for the u21s last year and could well make an appearance yet. Andrew Ryan was another man who had a good partnership and understanding with both Barrett and Breen last year. Would you think he could be an option to draft in for the future?
    Surprised Dave's gone from squad. He'll get another shot, he doesn't mind winning ball dirty if he has to to get scores.
    When you say Andrew Ryan to draft into the squad?? Do you mean "Locke" Ryan from Toome or am I naming another Andrew Ryan


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    Surprised Dave's gone from squad. He'll get another shot, he doesn't mind winning ball dirty if he has to to get scores.
    When you say Andrew Ryan to draft into the squad?? Do you mean "Locke" Ryan from Toome or am I naming another Andrew Ryan


    Yeah Andrew from Toomevara that was u21 the last two years? Played at full back. Not sure about his nickname. Think he has a brother that was minor last year or something.


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