Dublin GAA Discussion Thread MOD WARNING POST #2944

Tom Joad

redlead wrote: »

Absolutely shocking on so many levels. Firstly it's embarrassing that the Dublin county board had the audacity to appeal a clear red card caught on camera three times. Its a farce that it can be appealed three times and then for the ban to be dropped at the end of it is an absolute disgrace. You'd have to wonder what sort of buffoons run the GAA as there is no logic to this. I agree with the previous poster too who says that it completely undermines the referees. What's the point in making the tough calls in a game when the GAA is just going to over rule you anyway.

Of course Dublin were going to appeal. They would have been stupid not to considering that every other appeal was successful.

Yes the whole thing is a farce but how are Dublin to blame for that. The process is there (joke that it is) and Dublin followed it.

Decision 15 hours before throw in is another joke. Wouldn't be surprised if Connolly isn't in starting 15.

Dirty Dingus McGee

dunnerc wrote: »

Yes going by the rules of the game,what Connolly did was a red also going by the rules of the game what keane did was a red keane got off Connolly got off Now lets just play the game and may the best team win.

People weren't happy with Keane getting off either.

This has nothing to do with Dublin or any other county it's to do with the disciplinary procedures being rubbish for all counties.

Slimfast Shady

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

Referee and Two boards saw fit to uphold the red card and with it the one match ban, and the DRP overturn it. It is joke of a system, and does non favours to the referee. At the end of the day, what he did merited a red card by the rulebook, but hey ho, that is the GAA for you. Bear in mind, the two heads of the other bodies are practising lawyers and former secretaries of the DRP

I know all that, rebel girl. Appeals Process needs to be sorted ASAP

redlead

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

People weren't happy with Keane getting off either.

This has nothing to do with Dublin or any other county it's to do with the disciplinary procedures being rubbish for all counties.

It does though. Why did Dublin appeal a clear red card three times? Obviously punching someone is acceptable behaviour now. How do they have a leg to stand on when a player is sent off for the same in the club championship?

dunnerc

redlead wrote: »

Absolutely shocking on so many levels. Firstly it's embarrassing that the Dublin county board had the audacity to appeal a clear red card caught on camera three times. Its a farce that it can be appealed three times and then for the ban to be dropped at the end of it is an absolute disgrace. You'd have to wonder what sort of buffoons run the GAA as there is no logic to this. I agree with the previous poster too who says that it completely undermines the referees. What's the point in making the tough calls in a game when the GAA is just going to over rule you anyway.

Dublin had the same so called audacity to appeal a clear red card
as Mayo had with keane striking murphy :rolleyes:

ThunbergsAreGo

redlead wrote: »

It does though. Why did Dublin appeal a clear red card three times? Obviously punching someone is acceptable behaviour now. How do they have a leg to stand on when a player is sent off for the same in the club championship?

Why did mayo appeal a strike? Etc etc

redlead

dunnerc wrote: »

Dublin had the same so called audacity to appeal a clear red card
as Mayo had with keane striking murphy :rolleyes:

What's your point? Two wrongs don't make a right

ThunbergsAreGo

redlead wrote: »

What's your point? Two wrongs don't make a right

That it's not a Dublin problem, it's an issue with the system

Everyone here agrees its ridiculous

Fact is Dublin wouldn't have appealed if previous precedent hadn't make them think they would be successful

rebel girl 15

naughtb4 wrote: »

I'd guess the majority of what all 7 players that have appealed are reds, yet all were successful. At least it's a consistent joke.

Let's not pretend appealing is only a Dublin thing

I said same old rubbish by the GAA if you read the post, and I'm referring to all these appeals getting off.

It is a joke, what sort of example does it set to younger players. It is the second time that Connolly was sent off in an All Ireland semi final and cleared to play the next game, though that one was more like the Keegan one iirc

The appeals process needs a radical overhaul

Slimfast Shady

redlead wrote: »

What's your point? Two wrongs don't make a right

Both teams followed the Appeals Process. Both players were cleared. We could debate this all day .....

ThunbergsAreGo

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

I said same old rubbish by the GAA if you read the post, and I'm referring to all these appeals getting off.

It is a joke, what sort of example does it set to younger players. It is the second time that Connolly was sent off in an All Ireland semi final and cleared to play the next game, though that one was more like the Keegan one iirc

The appeals process needs a radical overhaul

Sorry wasn't intimating you were saying it was a Dublin thing was just a general point.

Must have an effect on referees as well

naughto

What's the point in having refs any more if there going to get off in the appeal process, Keane should not have got off and there's no way in hell Connolly should have. There is going to be war come 5 oclock

redlead

Slimfast Shady wrote: »

Both teams followed the Appeals Process. Both players were cleared. We could debate this all day .....

Exactly but they shouldn't have been appealed. If I got sent off in the Dublin championship for punching someone I'd be laughing at the CB when they try to hand down a ban. It sets an awful precedent. It also highlights how farcical the whole appeals culture and set up is so there is plenty to debate. Hard have any respect for the GAA with this crap going on.

dunnerc

redlead wrote: »

What's your point? Two wrongs don't make a right

Agreed two wrongs don't make a right
but in the interest of fairness you cant let one player off for striking
and deny another player getting off for the same offence a few weeks later

Great for Dublin but the gaa are a joke with this decision.

JRant

The majority of overturned reds this year were clear reds and should have stood, including Keane and Dermo's.

Congress will need to tighten the whole process up to stop this happening.

I'm delighted Dermo is back in the team though. I think we'll win by 5+ points today. We'll be a lot more tuned in than last week. People have suggested all week that we bottled it last Sunday. I think Mayo missed a real opportunity to beat us as we were very poor for large parts of the game.

Bastic and Fenton to put in a seeious performance around the middle with Berno scoring a hat full.

happyoutscan

Well there's a good chance he'll get line again today so can't say I'm too disappointed with the appeal being rescinded. Just amazed how popular this level of a person is. Says alot.

RoyalCelt

Between this, Tierney mccann. and the Kevin kane red card the gaa proving to be a joke. Who is even on these commities and why is there 3 of them.

They need to being in stricter rules. Jesus Paul galvin must be feeling pissed off for all the bans he got over the years!

rebel girl 15

dunnerc wrote: »

Agreed two wrongs don't make a right
but in the interest of fairness you cant let one player off for striking
and deny another player getting off for the same offence a few weeks later

GAA downgraded Keanes card to a yellow,but that only got to CHC, whereas Connolly went to CHC and CAC who upheld the ban, and then overturned in DRP. Doesn't matter in the interest of fairness, what Connolly did was a red and with it a one match suspension.

Problem is they are trying to make calls about force and intent and provocation which are not in the rulebook. GAA at the moment are Grants All Appeals (eventually)

Personally, if I saw a Cork player being sent off for what Connolly did and appeal, I would be ashamed of the board, and I have been on number of occasions. But given that accepting responsibility for your actions isn't a social norm in society, how can we expect it on a pitch?

Fr Tod Umptious

happyoutscan wrote: »

Well there's a good chance he'll get line again today so can't say I'm too disappointed with the appeal being rescinded. Just amazed how popular this level of a person is. Says alot.

It's the same in every sport the world over.

Player x may be a scumbag/drugs cheat/wife beater etc, but he is our scumbag/drugs cheat/wife beater.

rebel girl 15

RoyalCelt wrote: »

Between this, Tierney mccann. and the Kevin kane red card the gaa proving to be a joke. Who is even on these commities and why is there 3 of them.

They need to being in stricter rules. Jesus Paul galvin must be feeling pissed off for all the bans he got over the years!

CAC and CHC are headed up by practising lawyers and former secretaries if the DRP. The DRP was introduced around ten years ago to prevent cases like this from ending up in the High Court

The GAA need to define a strike, I think that's what those reds are being overturned on, but the DRP decision will be available later on their website

RoscommonTom

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

GAA downgraded Keanes card to a yellow,but that only got to CHC, whereas Connolly went to CHC and CAC who upheld the ban, and then overturned in DRP. Doesn't matter in the interest of fairness, what Connolly did was a red and with it a one match suspension.

Problem is they are trying to make calls about force and intent and provocation which are not in the rulebook. GAA at the moment are Grants All Appeals (eventually)

Personally, if I saw a Cork player being sent off for what Connolly did and appeal, I would be ashamed of the board, and I have been on number of occasions. But given that accepting responsibility for your actions isn't a social norm in society, how can we expect it on a pitch?

your dead right, this is the same fella that got sent off in another semi final and got off with that one too, he will probably be punching again today as well knowing him

jacko

1 word -> farce

but1er

As I said Connolly couldn get banned! Right decision should of been cleared 3 days! Now The gaa look like a joke!

I wonder who Connolly will get to assault today ? What a laughing stock the GAA have made of themselves. This will be thrown back at the GAA and Dublin as special treatment for years to come. A win for Dublin today will be tainted as it will be seen as assisted by the GAA HQ. Its embarrassing that the county board went this far, they will be slagged about this for years to come.

This is the second time the St. Vincent’s man has escaped censure despite being shown the line in an All-Ireland semi-final. In 2011 he was allowed to play in Dublin’s win over Kerry even though he had been sent off by Maurice Deegan for striking Donegal’s Marty Boyle three weeks previously

jimmytwotimes 2013

No player should ever serve a ban for striking ever again. They could cite numerous cases of fellas getting away with it and threaten legal action if a ban was imposed.

Connolly got away with striking before and has again, why would he stop belting fellas now?

Todays atmosphere will have an edge to it. As another poster said above Galvin and any other player who got vilified (deservedly so), in the recent past, for similar behaviour must be in disbelief.

TCDStudent1

For those of you in the know about appeal hearings , would Connolly have to attend each of those hearings the last few nights? Can't think of a worse way to prepare for today's match.

dunnerc

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

GAA downgraded Keanes card to a yellow,but that only got to CHC, whereas Connolly went to CHC and CAC who upheld the ban, and then overturned in DRP. Doesn't matter in the interest of fairness, what Connolly did was a red and with it a one match suspension.

Problem is they are trying to make calls about force and intent and provocation which are not in the rulebook. GAA at the moment are Grants All Appeals (eventually)

Personally, if I saw a Cork player being sent off for what Connolly did and appeal, I would be ashamed of the board, and I have been on number of occasions. But given that accepting responsibility for your actions isn't a social norm in society, how can we expect it on a pitch?

Well we can go on with this forever,and if that's the way you feel ref cork player and board that's your decision personally I feel what Connolly did was wrong,but can understand why he did it he was deliberately taken out of the game by keegan and was being held in a head lock,so I'm not ashamed of the board,they done what they had to do. roll on 5 OCLOCK COYBIB....

AngryDiMaria

Don't be so butt hurt lads and enjoy the game this evening

Meglamonia

Have to laugh at people coming in here giving out ****e about Connolly, where was the outrage when Keane got his red card rescinded?

And what's with all the comments "Who's he going to punch today? And he'll be sent off today knowing him"

Speaking as a neutral, I'm delighted Connolly has got off, he was clearly targeted and dragged to the ground off the ball which annoys me and COC acted consistently by what he had done throughout the whole game by whinging in the officials ear, it's still beyond me how he was awarded MOTM, by McStay of course.

Anyway, on the game Dublin to win by 5 with Connolly having a big influence.