Numbers up Gerry

wretcheddomain · 04-11-2013 02:06AM

No

rockatansky wrote: »

Jesus not this again. So leader of Republican movement may / may not be responsible for persons death during civil war.

Do you know what, big deal. At the end of the day he's still going to top the Poll no matter where he stands. He doesn't back away from anyone.

Out of all leaders both north and south from the past 40 years he's the last man standing.

What a terrible answer. Incoherency piled on top of nonsense.

Busted Flat. · 04-11-2013 02:09AM

No

I think this thread should be closed simply for human dignity.

K-9 · 04-11-2013 02:10AM

Busted Flat. wrote: »

The problem with the anti Adams, SF, IRA, crowd is they can't handle defeat. Get over it and move on like the people in the six counties on both sides who know there is no future in violence. It is a tight balance to hold the line, hopefully the peacemakers can stand firm.

Another line from the handbook.

The IRA was a self regulating army, it policed itself, and I'm a big critic of self regulation, ask any libertarian! It was a law onto itself, give that much power to an organisation like that and horrible shyte happens. No different to politicians in that regard, no matter how noble supporters try to paint them.

Fred Swanson · 04-11-2013 02:10AM

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Filibuster · 04-11-2013 02:12AM

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K-9 wrote: »

Anybody who gives accounts contrary to SF HQ advice will be painted as dissidents and malcontents.

/QUOTE]

He's as dissident as they come:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/anthony-mcintyre-who-is-mcguinness-to-talk-of-treachery-1645373.html

WoollyRedHat · 04-11-2013 02:12AM

No

rockatansky wrote: »

Jesus not this again. So leader of Republican movement may / may not be responsible for persons death during civil war.

Do you know what, big deal. At the end of the day he's still going to top the Poll no matter where he stands. He doesn't back away from anyone.

Out of all leaders both north and south from the past 40 years he's the last man standing.

Yeah I would count that as a big deal funnily enough, especially the manner of the death in which a woman, who was taken from her home, from her children, then murdered and her body buried on a beach, and the reasons for her execution later been found to be based on failed pretences. Such as she was not an informer. I'd say her family view it as a pretty big ****ing deal.

Busted Flat. · 04-11-2013 02:14AM

No

K-9 wrote: »

Another line from the handbook.

The IRA was a self regulating army, it policed itself, and I'm a big critic of self regulation, ask any libertarian! It was a law onto itself, give that much power to an organisation like that and horrible shyte happens. No different to politicians in that regard, no matter how noble supporters try to paint them.

Nice rant K9, you are probably too young to understand about the start of the troubles, if that is the case your comment is understandable. If that is not the case well ??.

WoollyRedHat · 04-11-2013 02:15AM

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Busted Flat. wrote: »

Nice rant K9, you are probably too young to understand about the start of the troubles, if that is the case your comment is understandable. If that is not the case well ??.

Your ad hominem attacks reveal the level of debate you are capable of.

rockatansky · 04-11-2013 02:16AM

No

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Yeah I would count that as a big deal funnily enough, especially the manner of the death in which a woman, who was taken from her home, from her children, then murdered and her body buried on a beach, and the reasons for her execution later been found to be based on failed pretences. Such as she was not an informer. I'd say her family view it as a pretty big ****ing deal.

It's old news. What exactly have we learnt from that article that we didnt know before. It changes nothing.

D1stant · 04-11-2013 02:17AM

No

I wonder if boards.ie could examine threads on Adams/IRA/North

and look at the re-reg/post frequency stats. Seems like a strange co-incidence that whenever anyone tries to have a conversation about these things that we get these dormant/new accounts with very polarised views. Not interested in discussing anything. Just defending turf

If this is the case - and this is a systematic thing, Its a shame & devalues boards

Filibuster · 04-11-2013 02:17AM

No

rockatansky wrote: »

It's old news. What exactly have we learnt from that article that we didnt know before. It changes nothing.

Well I think we all learned something about you...

K-9 · 04-11-2013 02:18AM

Busted Flat. wrote: »

Nice rant K9, you are probably too young to understand about the start of the troubles, if that is the case your comment is understandable. If that is not the case well ??.

I notice you haven't actually replied to a post with any history, information or facts, zilch, nada.

[-0-] · 04-11-2013 02:19AM

rockatansky wrote: »

It's old news. What exactly have we learnt from that article that we didnt know before. It changes nothing.

Exactly. It's just a rehash of old news in an attempt to damage SF.

Adams should stand down to be honest.

WoollyRedHat · 04-11-2013 02:19AM

No

rockatansky wrote: »

It's old news. What exactly have we learnt from that article that we didnt know before. It changes nothing.

The murder has not been solved, so its ongoing news.

rockatansky · 04-11-2013 02:20AM

No

Filibuster wrote: »

Well I think we all learned something about you...

Yes That I want to move forward and stop dragging up the past.

Happyman42 · 04-11-2013 02:21AM

D1stant wrote: »

Fair enough. Of course sh1t happened. And mistakes were made - on both sides. Lots of innocent people were killed. The issue I have is that I believe Gerry Adams ordered and had knowledge of many such cases. Has always denied so, and now he sits in our parliament. That for 30 years Jean McConville was buried in a beach in Louth and now Gerry Adams is the TD for Louth.

That really disgusts me.

It will never be proven, all this is just hearsay and symptomatic of an organisation like this splitting. Your suspicions are just that; suspicions.

WoollyRedHat · 04-11-2013 02:21AM

No

rockatansky wrote: »

Yes That I want to move forward and stop dragging up the past.

Maybe you do, but the families feel differently.... wonder why?

rockatansky · 04-11-2013 02:29AM

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WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Maybe you do, but the families feel differently.... wonder why?

Absolutely. I hope they get the justice and closure that they seek.

There are many families that would love dearly to get justice for their loved ones however they have learned very early on that its never going to happen as those responsible have been afforded the protection of the state.

Karl Stein · 04-11-2013 02:29AM

D1stant wrote: »

If this is the case - and this is a systematic thing, Its a shame & devalues boards

And the corpse waving to score political points against SF is equally distasteful.

policarp · 04-11-2013 02:34AM

This is getting back to the civil war and the Black and Tan times.
Gerry is Arthur Griffith now. . . :P

D1stant · 04-11-2013 02:38AM

No

Carlos Roca wrote: »

And the corpse waving to score political points against SF is equally distasteful.

I have no real problem with SF I think they are as vacuous and dishonest as any other party. Corpse waving? yes that is distasteful, but those are your words

My issue is with Adams. He is a blatant liar, coward and a very probable murderer. And my taxes pay for this guy.

Anyway lets see the documentary. I have an awful feeling that you don't have to though. Opinions set in stone (sic)

yizorselves · 04-11-2013 02:44AM

Yep Gerry's number is up! Because all the things he has done are facts and have been known for a long time. Thats why he is in jail right now. Serving a very long sentence is Gerry. For all these crimes he has commited and been found guilty of. There really is no arguing with it. Well done to the authorities for locking Gerry up. This happened

rockatansky · 04-11-2013 02:44AM

No

D1stant wrote: »

My issue is with Adams. He is a blatant liar, coward

Can I ask what Gerry Adams has said or done (or didnt do) that makes him a coward in your eyes?

Happyman42 · 04-11-2013 02:45AM

D1stant wrote: »

I have no real problem with SF I think they are as vacuous and dishonest as any other party. Corpse waving? yes that is distasteful, but those are your words

My issue is with Adams. He is a blatant liar, coward and a very probable murderer. And my taxes pay for this guy.

Anyway lets see the documentary. I have an awful feeling that you don't have to though. Opinions set in stone (sic)

I'll bet there won't be one thing in it that we don't know already.
When's RTE's doc about the British cover-up of the Dublin/Monaghan bombings on? We don't know that either!

[-0-] · 04-11-2013 02:46AM

D1stant wrote: »

I have no real problem with SF I think they are as vacuous and dishonest as any other party. Corpse waving? yes that is distasteful, but those are your words

My issue is with Adams. He is a blatant liar, coward and a very probable murderer. And my taxes pay for this guy.

Anyway lets see the documentary. I have an awful feeling that you don't have to though. Opinions set in stone (sic)

I don't think you understand how to use "(sic)" properly.

K-9 · 04-11-2013 02:47AM

yizorselves wrote: »

Yep Gerry's number is up! Because all the things he has done are facts and have been known for a long time. Thats why he is in jail right now. Serving a very long sentence is Gerry. For all these crimes he has commited and been found guilty of. There really is no arguing with it. Well done to the authorities for locking Gerry up. This happened

I could imagine a Loyalist thug having the same reasoning about Bloody Sunday and British soldiers.

wretcheddomain · 04-11-2013 02:47AM

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rockatansky wrote: »

Can I ask what Gerry Adams has said or done (or didnt do) that makes him a coward in your eyes?

Not having the courage of his convictions of being honest about his past yet claims his party are different to the rest.

So yes - he's a liar about his past and more importantly doesn't have the courage to admit the truth of his rather grisly past.

I would have thought this obvious to anyone except an unwavering sympathiser and apologist for Adams.

Karl Stein · 04-11-2013 02:50AM

D1stant wrote: »

My issue is with Adams. He is a blatant liar, coward and a very probable murderer. And my taxes pay for this guy.

Adams is the product of a conflict zone. He witnessed his family and peers subjected to misery, imprisonment without trial, and murder by the BA and others. What would you have done? Gone out and thrown flowers at your tormentors?

Anyway lets see the documentary. I have an awful feeling that you don't have to though.

I'll watch it with an open mind.

diomed · 04-11-2013 02:53AM

Busted Flat. wrote: »

The problem with the anti Adams, SF, IRA, crowd is they can't handle defeat. Get over it and move on like the people in the six counties on both sides who know there is no future in violence. It is a tight balance to hold the line, hopefully the peacemakers can stand firm.

six counties? :pac:

Happyman42 · 04-11-2013 02:54AM

wretcheddomain wrote: »

Not having the courage of his convictions of being honest about his past yet claims his party are different to the rest.

So yes - he's a liar about his past and more importantly doesn't have the courage to admit the truth of his rather grisly past.

I would have thought this obvious to anyone except an unwavering sympathiser and apologist for Adams.

If he denies what you seem to know then I'm afraid the onus is on you to prove what you know.

Numbers up Gerry

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