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Why is it wrong to oppose mass immigration?
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You keep on bringing up christianity in the face of islam.
The point is really that islam is still in its infancy and despite this is allowed to go unchecked.0 -
Lee Rigby's murderers aren't immigrants.hotbabe1992 wrote: »Look at the beheading of lee rigby on the streets of london,when are we going to actually get it?0 -
hotbabe1992 wrote: »You keep on bringing up christianity in the face of islam.
The point is really that islam is still in its infancy and despite this is allowed to go unchecked.
You brought religion into the discussion. So to clarify your view you think Islam should not be allowed to go unchecked. Is that only in the west or through out the world.
But from the Bible Number 31
7 They fought against Midian, as the Lord commanded Moses, and killed every man. 8 Among their victims were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur and Reba—the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. 9 The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. 10 They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. 11 They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals, 12 and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest and the Israelite assembly at their camp on the plains of Moab, by the Jordan across from Jericho.
13 Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle.
15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
And
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
And Judges 5:30
They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil.
Deuteronomy 22:23
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
I could go on and on and on.
BTW Islam allowed a women to inherit years before most other systems. Also Islam was the first legal system to insist that a wife had a legal rights share in husbands estate.
There are plenty of butters in all religion just look at westboro Baptist church.0 -
It would be nice if they consulted with the locals first.0
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Taxburden carrier wrote: »It would be nice if they consulted with the locals first.
...we voted to join the EU.0 -
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The Quran:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.
Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."
Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.
Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.
Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).
Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?
Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.
Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."
Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:293, also). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."
Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."
Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."
Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."
Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had the power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.
Quran (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."
Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.
Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.
Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.
Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).
Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.
Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."
Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."
Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."
Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).
Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)
Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"
Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.
Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.
Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similitude. Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners," Those who reject Allah are to be subdued in battle. The verse goes on to say the only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is in order to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test. "But if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost."
Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"
Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.
Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' in verse 16.
Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict. This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist." (See next verse, below). Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.
Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity , that is indeed the great success." This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above). It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.
Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.0 -
40 years ago, different world.0
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Infosys,you seem strongly focused on bringing up the ills of christianity,where are they today,can you not focus on the problem of misogyny in islam and all the terrible things that go with it.
I see your all tooth and claw when it comes to christianity but not a whimper on islam.
Do you know the quaran has over 109 violent verses in it,that are supposed to be adhered to in a stealth jihad by means of peace,or an overt jihad by means of violence.
By either peace and propoganda or violence they are prescribed to take us over.0 -
Infosys, there's really not much point in engaging with this person, their view of asylum seekers in this country is extraordinary and inaccurate. Best leave it!0
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hotbabe1992 wrote: »Infosys,you seem strongly focused on bringing up the ills of christianity,where are they today,can you not focus on the problem of misogyny in islam and all the terrible things that go with it.
I see your all tooth and claw when it comes to christianity but not a whimper on islam.
Do you know the quaran has over 109 violent verses in it,that are supposed to be adhered to in a stealth jihad by means of peace,or an overt jihad by means of violence.
By either peace and propoganda or violence they are prescribed to take us over.
I have a dim view of all religion, I find them all mad as a bag of cats. If anyone lives their live by a book written hundreds of years ago well what do you expect. Do I think that some people who follow Islam are mad, sure I do. Do I think all followers of Islam are blood mad, well no I don't no more that any other religion or ideology to be honest. I work with Muslims and know a number and like all of them to be honest. I base my world view on what I experience not the rumblings of a nutter.
BTW I bet the Bible has way more violence in it, and in the name of Christ many have been killed and harmed, but does that take away from the good no, nor should it in any other situation.0 -
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Infosys, there's really not much point in engaging with this person, their view of asylum seekers in this country is extraordinary and inaccurate. Best leave it!
You are right, it's just sad that that person actually believes what they do. I would hate to live in such a world of fear and hate.0 -
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I have a dim view of all religion, I find them all mad as a bag of cats. If anyone lives their live by a book written hundreds of years ago well what do you expect. Do I think that some people who follow Islam are mad, sure I do.
Then why on earth would you want all these mad islams in your country,the want to take it over by stealth jihad by means of peace or by means of the sword(overt jihad).
Either way its a gloomy situation if we contintue to let them in under whatever guise they want to get in by asylum or whatever..BTW I bet the Bible has way more violence in it, and in the name of Christ many have been killed and harmed, but does that take away from the good no, nor should it in any other situation
My big question is: Where are is christianity prescribing this today?Is it coming from the vatican or where is it coming from,where are the christians stoning people or gang raping them and then demanding four male witnesses to the event?
You seem fixated on christianity as a defense,but dont seem to go at islam with the same intensity..
Why is that?You are right, it's just sad that that person actually believes what they do. I would hate to live in such a world of fear and hate.
I dont hate them i pity them,and i live in reality not some champagne liberal utopia of stealth jihad and leftism..0 -
hotbabe1992 wrote: »Then why on earth would you want all these mad islams in your country,the want to take it over by stealth jihad by means of peace or by means of the sword(overt jihad).
Either way its a gloomy situation if we contintue to let them in under whatever guise they want to get in by asylum or whatever..
My big question is: Where are is christianity prescribing this today?Is it coming from the vatican or where is it coming from,where are the christians stoning people or gang raping them and then demanding four male witnesses to the event?
You seem fixated on christianity as a defense,but dont seem to go at islam with the same intensity..
Why is that?
Well recently there was the Balkins and Rawanda as just two examples. But I unlike you don't think all person from a country or religion are mad. You may but that's your problem not mine. You have no understanding of immigration or Asylum.
Even UKIP have a better understanding of Asylum than you http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25539843
BTW I never used Christinaty as a Defence I simply pointed out there are mad people and ideas every where, that's not a reason to shut doors to people who ask for help. But you would not get the Christian charity as you obviously don't have any.
But I'm off you as nutty as a squirls leavings.0 -
Oh christianity in africa,thats not truly representative of christianity ..... Dont they mix in witchcraft with their brand of new found christianity,i heard one guy in the uk claimed he could cure cancer he was a christian pastor,and got them to drink one part bleach to so many parts water and said it was a cure his grandmother taught him..
People desperate and with cancer believed him,it was even on panorama,these ''chrsitians'' are not true christians they are lunatic fringes of christiainity i doubt the vatican officials appointed them.
The majority of christians are good civil law abiding citizens,and dont go out of their way to harm others,the case of rwanda were people who were very tribal and well they twisted christianity to suit themselves and their habitat and the politics of their habitat.0 -
hotbabe1992 wrote: »Oh christianity in africa,thats not truly representative of christianity ..... Dont they mix in witchcraft with their brand of new life christianity,i heard one guy in the uk claimed he could cure cancer he was a christian pastor,and got them to drink one part bleach to so many parts water and said it was a cure his grandmother taught him..
People desperate and with cancer believed him,it was even on panorama,these ''chrsitians'' are not true christians they are lunatic fringes of christiainity i doubt the vatican officials appointed them.
Really http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2010/mar/29/pope-catholics-rwanda-genocide-church
http://clericalwhispers.blogspot.ie/2008/10/catholic-priest-dares-vatican-on-1994.html?m=1
I am not attacking any church (unlike you) I am simply pointing out the plank in your eye.0 -
hotbabe1992 wrote: »Oh christianity in africa,thats not truly representative of christianity ..... Dont they mix in witchcraft with their brand of new found christianity,i heard one guy in the uk claimed he could cure cancer he was a christian pastor,and got them to drink one part bleach to so many parts water and said it was a cure his grandmother taught him..
People desperate and with cancer believed him,it was even on panorama,these ''chrsitians'' are not true christians they are lunatic fringes of christiainity i doubt the vatican officials appointed them.
The majority of christians are good civil law abiding citizens,and dont go out of their way to harm others,the case of rwanda were people who were very tribal and well they twisted christianity to suit themselves and their habitat and the politics of their habitat.
What is your view of the majority of Muslims.0 -
So immigrants can come to Ireland and pay their taxes, but once they run into any kind of difficulty, they can **** off back where they came from? Nice.But Non-EU folk should only be here if it benefits Ireland, IMHO. Let them work, pay taxes, raise kids, and if they met the requirements, after enough time, they can be citizens. But if they lose their job or need to utilize social services or commit crimes....send them home. That's their problem, not ours.
So anyone who doesn’t have a relatively high-paying job is of no economic value?If everyone who applied for asylum/refugee status would benefit Ireland in a meaningful/measurable/objective way - then we should let them all in. But I thought the entire point of asylum/refugees is that these were people who would not otherwise meet the criteria to be an immigrant. IE - they don't have a relatively high-paying job lined up.0 -
To work. Ireland has had a well-documented skills shortage for quite some time now and it’s stifling economic recovery.mikemorano wrote: »Why are immigrants still coming to Ireland...0 -
So when Ireland has absolutely no problems whatsoever, then and only then will you consider allowing in a single immigrant?hotbabe1992 wrote: »We need to stamp out fraud on every level...
So no more healthcare then?hotbabe1992 wrote: »Survival of the fittest...
You keep trying to counter ridiculous arguments that nobody is making.hotbabe1992 wrote: »... anybody who says britain is a paradise is absolutely blind and ignorant.
I think you need to look up the meaning of “generalise”.hotbabe1992 wrote: »Im not generalising when they all share the same mysoginistic culture.
Ireland does not have open borders with any predominately Muslim countries.hotbabe1992 wrote: »Then why on earth would you want all these mad islams in your country...0 -
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Ireland does not have open borders with any predominately Muslim countries.
Well then..Isn't it amazing how they get here :rolleyes:0 -
Im not generalising when they all share the same mysoginistic culture.I think you need to look up the meaning of “generalise”.
They all share the same hateful mysoginistic views and there are organised gangs to rape women like in parts of the middle east and pakistan or wherever,and isn't it odd how these groups of muslim organised rape gangs are popping up all over the UK?
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hotbabe1992 wrote: »Well then..Isn't it amazing how they get here :rolleyes:
They get a visa and a working permission like anyone else, unless thru are a citizen of an EU country, then they come and work. You really don't understand how this immigration thing works do you.0 -
Not all Muslims are immigrants.hotbabe1992 wrote: »Well then..Isn't it amazing how they get here :rolleyes:0 -
You're very easily amazed, aren't you?hotbabe1992 wrote: »Well then..Isn't it amazing how they get here
All Africans and Muslims are hateful misogynists?hotbabe1992 wrote: »They all share the same hateful mysoginistic views...
No racist generalisations here. No siree.0 -
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hotbabe1992 wrote: »They allshare the same hateful mysoginistic views ...
:rolleyes: I know i must not generalise ..
There's your problem. To generalise is to assume that a group of people all share the same characteristics.0 -
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And we can all get uppidty and on high horses...but until people stop being intimidated by the toothless PC brigade correct and effective decisions can't be made and opinions cannot be formed.
Just to be clear?...
People are being intimidated by a toothless 'brigade'.
And this stops people forming opinions.
And in between there's a lack of effective decision-making, presumably because no-one's formed any opinions, on account of being intimidated by this toothless entity.
Well, that makes a bunch of sense.
Oh, wait...0 -
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Can we do swapsies?
I know where my vote would go.
Possibly we can repatriate Auntie back from London, what with all the evil over-sexed misogynistic African witch-doctors, and mad mullahs, etc. running rampant, and evict our xenophobic friend across the water to endure the awfulness of it all? You have to start this welfare tourism immigration gravy train somewhere, after all. Replace the NHS sponger with a vibrant opponent of all state supports and advocate of sink-or-swim self-sufficiency. Kinda like an Ayn Rand with training wheels.
I have to say I enjoyed my years living in London myself, but I must have been mistaken.0
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