Boating chit chat thread.

Stheno

Did I hear several people mention beers?

Should I take it upon myself to start a beers thread? I've the dates Howth and DSBC start the summer season so I can base it on that, and arrange something city centre perhaps?
On an unbeers related note, I'm black and blue, thank goodness my workwear this week is long sleeved, I've a four inch long bruise on my upper arm (no idea how I got it, but the jib ripping on the start line may be a factor?)

I once went out sailing, and spent the next day presenting in a short sleeved top, oblivious until about 4pm that I looked like a victim of violence.

HeidiHeidi

pedroeibar1 wrote: »

Of course they are antique! The were old when I was a kid, and the last time I manned the line from the Hut, Jack Kennedy was alive and a bottle of something strong to keep out the damp was de rigueur. (Otherwise the Class Captain risked at least a recall !)

I do RO in The Hut, and Carmel rules the roost there with an iron fist (just to mix my metaphors) - and the "brown milk" for the coffees is still a staple, along with homemade cakes and the poker game while the boats are all specks in the distance. Timing the poker to finish as the first boat is coming around Turning is quite the skill, which they've honed to the n'th degree!

Sadly, I've heard that this may well be the Hut's last year - don't quote me on that, but I fear that its days are numbered and it'll be a sad day when it goes. The true end of an era that I've been very proud to have been part of.

(having said all that, I really hope i'm wrong )

pedroeibar1

Carmel has ruled the roost forever! Glad to see that the old traditions are kept going! Does she still use the R/T? (memories of whoever was helming saying "Would someone turn that bl00dy thing off, THAT Woman is distracting me!" There were rumours of the Hut 'going' back in the '90's.

pedroeibar1

JamesM wrote: »

We had a Race Officer in Blessington SC who used a shotgun. He refused to use blanks because they could damage the barrels. We seldom had anyone OCS :eek::D

Not accurate; blanks do no harm to barrels, they just cost substantially more!;)

HeidiHeidi

pedroeibar1 wrote: »

Carmel has ruled the roost forever! Glad to see that the old traditions are kept going! Does she still use the R/T? (memories of whoever was helming saying "Would someone turn that bl00dy thing off, THAT Woman is distracting me!" There were rumours of the Hut 'going' back in the '90's.

Oh Carmel still rules the Dublin Bay radio waves alright! And woe betide you if you interrupt her flow, I was on the receiving end of one tongue-lashing from her years back, broadcast to the whole fleet..... by golly you learned not to commit that sin again!!! She's a legend.

Stheno

Crewmember in Clipper Round the world race rescued after 90 minutes overboard in the Pacific

One lucky man

miss no stars

Stheno wrote: »

Crewmember in Clipper Round the world race rescued after 90 minutes overboard in the Pacific

One lucky man

HeidiHeidi

Stheno wrote: »

Crewmember in Clipper Round the world race rescued after 90 minutes overboard in the Pacific

One lucky man

With bells on :eek:

Lots of my pals doing sea survival courses at the moment in preparation for the offshore season starting soon.... this brought it all back, and the absolutely immeasurable value of having done some training and knowing the drill.

One thing though - the paper said he fell over at 12-something am... but it was daylight.... I'm assuming the paper was wrong? They can't possibly have been far north enough for 24 hour daylight surely?

ETA - cancel that last bit of confusion! Just re-read the article and it was 12-something am UK time - now what the feck relevance does that have to anything Anyway, all clear now!

pedroeibar1

Stheno wrote: »

One lucky man

+1.
Odd reportage, though, Indo says Clipper organisers said Mr Taylor fell in at 12.43am UK time on Monday but was not seen again until 1.55am and plucked from the ocean by his team-mates at 2.13am. So it would have been dark at that time, unless the press is using GMT? Good that someone hit the correct button on the satnav and that the navigator was on top of the game. Next time there is a headsail change when the wind is blowing 35knots I'd bet that the foredeck will wear use harnesses & lifelines!

Just read Heidi' s comment

HeidiHeidi

pedroeibar1 wrote: »

+1.
Odd reportage, though, Indo says Clipper organisers said Mr Taylor fell in at 12.43am UK time on Monday but was not seen again until 1.55am and plucked from the ocean by his team-mates at 2.13am. So it would have been dark at that time, unless the press is using GMT? Good that someone hit the correct button on the satnav and that the navigator was on top of the game. Next time there is a headsail change when the wind is blowing 35knots I'd bet that the foredeck will wear use harnesses & lifelines!

Just read Heidi' s comment

Yeah, just checked it out - 12mn our time would be 4pm US Pacific time, and even earlier further out in the Pacific. Still very misleading reporting on the Indo's part though!

Stheno

Thinking on this, I was wondering about the rules, iirc they mentioned putting on the engines to search for the mob, is that allowed in offshore racing?

Steve

As long as you don't benefit from it in race terms, aux power can be used - e.g. in this case to retrieve a MOB or in other cases to reverse off a net or sand bank etc. Similar situation to throwing an anchor out in a foul tide if you're losing ground.

HeidiHeidi

If it was me in the drink, I'd be pretty pissed off if they DIDN'T put the engines on sharpish, rules or no rules!

But yes, it's as Steve said, you can get yourself out of danger as long as you don't gain from it.

Stheno

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

If it was me in the drink, I'd be pretty pissed off if they DIDN'T put the engines on sharpish, rules or no rules!
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Well that was my thinking, but having seen that NZ skipper telling his boys to carry on after two went overboard in the Americas Cup, I wasn't sure

HeidiHeidi

Stheno wrote: »

Well that was my thinking, but having seen that NZ skipper telling his boys to carry on after two went overboard in the Americas Cup, I wasn't sure

AC is completely different, not offshore for starters, and they had chase/rescue boats on their tails. Middle of the Pacific, on your own, all bets are off!

Steve

Stheno wrote: »

Well that was my thinking, but having seen that NZ skipper telling his boys to carry on after two went overboard in the Americas Cup, I wasn't sure

The rules are pretty clear that, barring injury, you can't finish with less crew than you started with - this was to stop skippers ditching crew to swim home when winds got light.:D

Stheno

Steve wrote: »

The rules are pretty clear that, barring injury, you can't finish with less crew than you started with - this was to stop skippers ditching crew to swim home when winds got light.:D

Given I'm the lightest on my boat, I'm safe so

Steve

Stheno wrote: »

Given I'm the lightest on my boat, I'm safe so

Nobody's safe - speaking from experience... :P

Stheno

Steve wrote: »

Nobody's safe - speaking from experience... :P

Ah but I weigh so much less than you :P

Those sheets would have just whipped past me

Steve

Stheno wrote: »

Ah but I weigh so much less than you :P

Those sheets would have just whipped past through me

FYP...

HeidiHeidi

Stheno wrote: »

Given I'm the lightest on my boat, I'm safe so

Dunno where that leaves me so - apart from surprised I've stayed dry as long as I have :eek::D

Stheno

Steve wrote: »

FYP...

Evil

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Dunno where that leaves me so - apart from surprised I've stayed dry as long as I have :eek::D

Avoided being bowman? Steve had the pleasure of the drink the one day I didn't go out

Vexorg

Stheno wrote: »

Avoided being bowman? Steve had the pleasure of the drink the one day I didn't go out

He was just showing off, we had to wrestle him to the deck to stop him trying the same stunt again. Although I will admit the pics of the bruise on his ribs gave me the willies, probably still healing even now.

Stheno

pedroeibar1 wrote: »

+1.
Next time there is a headsail change when the wind is blowing 35knots I'd bet that the foredeck will wear use harnesses & lifelines!

Apparently he was clipped on, unclipped to go get a pliers, and forgot to clip back on again :eek:

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/sailor-praises-mates-after-rescue-30154602.html

pedroeibar1

Stheno wrote: »

Apparently he was clipped on, unclipped to go get a pliers, and forgot to clip back on again :eek:

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/sailor-praises-mates-after-rescue-30154602.html

Thanks. That sorta makes sense. But what about the line that stretches from the pulpit to the cockpit along the deck that allows you to traverse the boat without unclipping? Good work by all concerned, good call to put someone up the mast.

"One second my feet were on the boat, the next second my head was in the water," Mr Taylor said. "It happened so very, very quickly."
Mr Taylor thought his safety harness was clipped to the boat.
Mr Taylor, ............ said “a sudden storm pushed him farther from the boat ...........It really got very nasty for a while.........I got rolled over in some of the waves, like a washing machine. By the time the storm passed I didn't know where the boat was."

Sounds like they were hit by a bad squall, explains delay and loss of visual on the man o/board. Another reason for keeping a weather eye when working on the foredeck.
And when s#1t happens, as the man said, "It can happen so very, very quickly."

juke

Vexorg wrote: »

He was just showing off, we had to wrestle him to the deck to stop him trying the same stunt again. Although I will admit the pics of the bruise on his ribs gave me the willies, probably still healing even now.

Bruises - makeup I bet :pac: Sure didn't his cigarettes stay dry..no big deal at all.

Steve

juke wrote: »

Bruises - makeup I bet :pac: Sure didn't his cigarettes stay dry..no big deal at all.

Yeah, it was just all smoke mirrors and makeup... didn't hurt a bit, thanks.

Stheno

pedroeibar1 wrote: »

Thanks. That sorta makes sense. But what about the line that stretches from the pulpit to the cockpit along the deck that allows you to traverse the boat without unclipping? Good work by all concerned, good call to put someone up the mast.
Sounds like they were hit by a bad squall, explains delay and loss of visual on the man o/board. Another reason for keeping a weather eye when working on the foredeck.
And when s#1t happens, as the man said, "It can happen so very, very quickly."

I was thinking the same myself, why did he have to unclip in the first place. Only thing I could think of was that that maybe he had to go downstairs into the cabin to get a pliers and unclipped with that expectation?

juke wrote: »

Bruises - makeup I bet :pac: Sure didn't his cigarettes stay dry..no big deal at all.

I reckon the same, it was way too many colours, purple and black and yellow, I'd say he went mad with an eyeshadow pallette.

Edit, the picture above supports my thinking, see the long streak of yellow on the left?

Sorry Steve

juke

That said, it did take a week to dry his boots out.

Stheno

juke wrote: »

That said, it did take a week to dry his boots out.

At least boots tend not to stink!

neris

Stheno wrote: »

At least boots tend not to stink!

eh duno whos boots your smelling

Stheno

neris wrote: »

eh duno whos boots your smelling

Just my own lavender and eucalyptus scented ones

Compared to gloves, dinghy boots, and wetsuits they are low down on my list of stinkiness

Steve

neris wrote: »

eh duno whos boots your smelling

You owe me a keyboard due to spittage.. :D:D

juke

Stheno wrote: »

Compared to gloves, dinghy boots, and wetsuits they are low down on my list of stinkiness

LOL.

Stheno

juke wrote: »

LOL.

Am I missing something here? Do they stink as they age?

I once accidentally left wet gloves in my car and spent several days wondering why the car stank

juke

Reckon so...especially if they've been swimming :pac:

Never associated sailing gear with bad smells....apart from boots.

Stheno

juke wrote: »

Reckon so...especially if they've been swimming :pac:

Never associated sailing gear with bad smells....apart from boots.

Gloves for me are the worst.

Thinking on it now my dinghy boots stank after a day of multiple capsizes, so logically no reason why sailing boots wouldn't stink after the same.

Ugh. YUCK

Eta have you seen the beers thread?

Vexorg

Wet gloves left in the bag for a week can be pretty rank, industrial strength odor eaters for the boots - cant beat em.

Stheno

Vexorg wrote: »

Wet gloves left in the bag for a week can be pretty rank, industrial strength odor eaters for the boots - cant beat em.

The gloves yes, weirdly my boots don't yet stink, however they are only a few months (about 10 races old)

They must have built in odor eaters.

Vexorg

You need to get a delivery or two in them boots, wear them 12- 16 hours a day for a couple of days them 30 hours non stop, if you are not breathing through your ears when you remove those boots I will be first in the queue for a pint of your lavender and eucalyptus potion.

Stheno

Vexorg wrote: »

You need to get a delivery or two in them boots, wear them 12- 16 hours a day for a couple of days them 30 hours non stop, if you are not breathing through your ears when you remove those boots I will be first in the queue for a pint of your lavender and eucalyptus potion.

I think it's due to my being a lady and glowing Compared to pigs and men

I know your game, you're trying to volunteer me to deliver the boat to Cork week! HA!

miss no stars

Stheno wrote: »

The gloves yes, weirdly my boots don't yet stink, however they are only a few months (about 10 races old)

They must have built in odor eaters.

Mine don't stink either and I've worn them for years and years. They didn't stink after a 3 day delivery during the hottest part of the summer last year when they were also brought on a hike through Kinsale.

I'd give the gloves a very gentle wash after each sail though.

There's nothing brings on seasickness so fast as the stink of rotting, fetid gear.. Especially when you're in the starting area looking at the AP with a big swell and no wind...

But in general I avoid washing anything waterproof any more than is strictly necessary in order to prolong its life... It only gets a washing when the smell lingers after I've changed and made it to the bar :P

Stheno

miss no stars wrote: »

Mine don't stink either and I've worn them for years and years. They didn't stink after a 3 day delivery during the hottest part of the summer last year when they were also brought on a hike through Kinsale.

I'd give the gloves a very gentle wash after each sail though.

There's nothing brings on seasickness so fast as the stink of rotting, fetid gear.. Especially when you're in the starting area looking at the AP with a big swell and no wind...

But in general I avoid washing anything waterproof any more than is strictly necessary in order to prolong its life... It only gets a washing when the smell lingers after I've changed and made it to the bar :P

You are obviously another lady

I now rinse out my gloves after each sail, same as I do with my dinghy gear (all of it)

With the water proof stuff, following advice from you and others I rinse it as needed I washed it once, it was a nightmare, now it's into the shower for a rinse with it

Have you seen the beers thread

Stheno

Right I've ordered a pair of those gill OS2 trousers, not sure they are the exact ones, but am excitedly looking forward to them arriving and my entertaining the OH with my contortions seeing how they fit.

Stheno

Stheno wrote: »

Right I've ordered a pair of those gill OS2 trousers, not sure they are the exact ones, but am excitedly looking forward to them arriving and my entertaining the OH with my contortions seeing how they fit.

Oh my goodness, DL to Howth and back today and while my new trousers rode up a bit when I was moving about, they were where they should be and not mid calve when I finished.

Delighted with them.

Today was the first time ever I've gone out for pleasure as opposed to racing, it was lovely, so peaceful, plenty of time to deal with issues, a few rough rides as we hit a squall, but never having sailed apart from to race, the sheer niceness of just heading of on a trip for fun was gorgeous

Conchir

Sailing just for the sake of it is my type of sailing! No pressure of racing, just you and your boat, and probably some good company.

Don't get me wrong, racing has it moments, but just cruising along is what does it for me.

Stheno

Conchir wrote: »

Sailing just for the sake of it is my type of sailing! No pressure of racing, just you and your boat, and probably some good company.

Don't get me wrong, racing has it moments, but just cruising along is what does it for me.

It was simply wonderful, really enjoyed it. We've a few delivery days this year, so looking forward to those

Myself and the OH (on sufferance) watched that channel four series with Prunella Scales and her OH on canal cruising and decided we'd love to do that as a holiday.

My boat has gone back to white sails as we lost too many crew to stay in class one, so I've changed position, I'm now a trainee tactician :eek:

I do like the maths side of it (I work in IT) it seems to be a very logic based area, and no need to be the size of a gorilla to do it well

HeidiHeidi

Was it on here that you asked about a barge holiday? I did one of those years and years ago in England with my brother, and it was fabulous! Pootling along canals (top speed limit 4 kts) somewhere near the England/Wales border in fabulous countryside - including the highest aquaduct in the country (or something like that anyway - it was VERY high! And very narrow!!!) The boats were narrowboats as opposed to barges as such (two hitched together) - they were "hotel boats" - front one was the galley/dining boat, the rear one the accomodation - my brother's girlfriend at the time was the cook. Always meant to go and do it again, but sailing took over in the meantime.

Sorry to hear you're gone back to white sails again - such a shame, but happens a lot of boats these days. Just watch out for us at the first and second marks - you guys start five minutes behind us, and always manage to catch us up just as we're rounding a mark, and being twice our size cause maximum mayhem

Stheno

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Was it on here that you asked about a barge holiday? I did one of those years and years ago in England with my brother, and it was fabulous! Pootling along canals (top speed limit 4 kts) somewhere near the England/Wales border in fabulous countryside - including the highest aquaduct in the country (or something like that anyway - it was VERY high! And very narrow!!!) The boats were narrowboats as opposed to barges as such (two hitched together) - they were "hotel boats" - front one was the galley/dining boat, the rear one the accomodation - my brother's girlfriend at the time was the cook. Always meant to go and do it again, but sailing took over in the meantime.

Sorry to hear you're gone back to white sails again - such a shame, but happens a lot of boats these days. Just watch out for us at the first and second marks - you guys start five minutes behind us, and always manage to catch us up just as we're rounding a mark, and being twice our size cause maximum mayhem

Dont think I've asked much about barge holidays before, we've our hols sorted for this year, but I'm definitely going to look into it, so may well pm you

I'm kinda glad we've gone back to whitesails, we never had enough crew for class one, and it was chaos tbh.

This year gives us the chance to settle, (especially for me in role like tactician) build up a crew and practice

Are you class cruisers 3b that you start five minutes behind us?

I'll keep a close eye out

HeidiHeidi

Yep, I'll be C3B on Thursdays in our own boat (five minutes ahead of you!), and on a 31.7 on Saturdays (hopefully!)

Could have sworn you posted a question somewhere about barge holidays... must have dreamt it!