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General FPL Chat Season 2013/14
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Michael D Not Higgins wrote: »Also there's different metrics for the EA PPI and BPS, for example where the EA PPI deducts for chances missed, BPS is -1 for 3 missed shots.
This can lead to the opposing ratings in the two systems.
Yip, was aware of the differences alright, but saying that, while I have a decent understanding of how the new BPS system works I wasn't familiar with the old one.
I just know that the two can be/are very different, with Ivan 3, Ramires 2, Hazard 1 being the Bonuses given out under the old system for last nights game.
Seems to favour defenders..... Think I'll go 5 at the back
:D (That's a joke going back to the start of the season when we were all parking the bus due to an unusually high % of clean sheets making us think it was the only way to go) 0 -
Yip, was aware of the differences alright, but saying that, while I have a decent understanding of how the new BPS system works I wasn't familiar with the old one.
I just know that the two can be/are very different, with Ivan 3, Ramires 2, Hazard 1 being the Bonuses given out under the old system for last nights game.
Seems to favour defenders..... Think I'll go 5 at the back:D (That's a joke going back to the start of the season when we were all parking the bus due to an unusually high % of clean sheets making us think it was the only way to go)
The old system was heavily weighted to attackers. The new system is more likely to reward defenders in the event of a clean sheet.
It's better than the old days of a subjective ruling from someone sent to the match.0 -
In fairness I think the current BP system is the best I ever played with.
The first one I came across to was given by a couple of pundits I think (I remember Charlie Adam was a BP magnet with Blackpool that very year, no matter the result :pac:). It wasn't necessarily the 3 best players in the real game who got the BPs and I remember many were complaining about it.
Last year the ESPN one was a bit of a joke. Hard to know what were the criteria. It was over-favouring attackers IMO.
If the current one is not perfect (but which system would be?) it has 2 main advantages in my opinion:- it is balanced (defensive tasks are included in the calculation)
- it is transparent enough. We know the criteria
All that to say I'm not surprised at all Hazard didn't get any BP yesterday and Yaya did. Hazard didn't assist nor scored. So he basically did nothing BP-wise. On the contrary Yaya was immense in midfield and did pretty much everything to get BPs. It may not be a good representation of what the real game was about but since FF is all about stats I think it is fair enough FF-wise to go with the stats for the BP attribution.Players score BPS points based on the following statistics (one point for each unless otherwise stated):
- Playing in a game
- Playing over 60 minutes
- Scoring goals
Goalkeepers and defenders (4 points)
Midfielders (6 points)
Fowards (8 points)- Assists (3 points)
- Goalkeepers and defenders keeping a clean sheet (4 points)
- Saving a penalty (5 points)
- For every 3 saves
- For every 3 open play crosses
- Creating a big chance (a chance where the receiving player should score)
- For every 8 clearances, blocks and interceptions (total)
- For every 8 recoveries
- Providing 3 key passes
- Making 3 successful tackles (net*)
- Scoring the goal that wins a match
- Pass Completion (after making at least 30 passes)
70% completion (1 point)
80% completion (2 points)
90% completion (3 points)
*Net successful tackles is the total of all successful tackles minus any unsuccessful tackles. Players will not be awarded negative BPS points for this statistic.
Players lose BPS points based on the following statistics (one point for each unless otherwise stated):- Conceding a penalty
- Missing a penalty (-2 points)
- Yellow cards
- Red cards (-3 points)
- Own goals (-2 points)
- Missing a big chance
- Making an error which leads to a goal
- Every 2 errors leading to an attempt at goal
- Being tackled 3 times
- Conceding 2 fouls
- Being caught offside 3 times
- Missing the target with 3 shots
And that's a non-Yaya owner who's talking here! 0 -
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Did he not have a poor enough record before Swansea? I got laughed at on here before for saying both Swansea (last season) and Newcastle (the season before) were very ordinary teams overperforming.
Guess I'm having the last laugh
Well it's pretty standard for teams who have an exceptional season to have a quieter season the next. Also considering that both teams mentioned played the Europa league the following season may be a causation or merely a correlation but it means squads become stretched and naturally attention gets divided between the 2.
Swansea had an in form Michu last year and Newcastle a Ba and then a Cisse. In Both cases the purple patch ended on top of a number of injuries.
Swansea have been dire from an FPL point of view this season so maybe a change will be good from that point of view. Laudrup I believe has a record of doing well in his first season before looking for his next step on the ladder. This is anecdotal evidence of what's in my head from memory but makes sense.
It's no surprise Liverpool are stronger this season and not rocket science that the Europa league is a scourge for teams with small squads and for FPL managers looking for assets.0 -
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Did he not have a poor enough record before Swansea? I got laughed at on here before for saying both Swansea (last season) and Newcastle (the season before) were very ordinary teams overperforming.
Guess I'm having the last laugh
newcastle have been decent again this year. I think the two teams dont have the squads to play in europa league and thats one of the main reasons for a dip in league form. Liverpool this year are much better off for not having to play europa league thursday night.0 -
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