O'Gara poised to join Sexton at Racing Metro

danthefan

Don't have much issue with Mrs. O'Gara's comments but the Indo should be embarrassed for printing it, real tabloid stuff. A poster on PR who would know the odd person is also saying she didn't think her comments were on the record and is quite annoyed at the article.

totallegend

danthefan wrote: »

Don't have much issue with Mrs. O'Gara's comments but the Indo should be embarrassed for printing it, real tabloid stuff. A poster on PR who would know the odd person is also saying she didn't think her comments were on the record and is quite annoyed at the article.

Yeah, that's more what I was getting at, that I just can't get my head around why it's in the paper in the first place.

Obviously she's not going to say "yeah Deccie was right to drop him, sure did you see how crap he was against Scotland?", I just don't know why she's come out with any comment at all, but if she thought she was off the record, then that might explain it.

Grimebox

totallegend wrote: »

So O'Gara's wife has come out swinging at Kidney...
http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ogaras-wife-attacks-former-coach-kidney-over-treatment-of-star-29281954.html

Two questions:
1) Why is his wife even being interviewed? Is that not a bit weird?
2) What did she want, that Ireland would pick O'Gara even though he was playing badly, just so he could have a send-off?



All a bit odd?

You're talking about it and linking the article

This is the most ridiculous part of the whole article to be fair.

It was the first time in his 128-cap and 13-year career that a fully fit O'Gara was not on the team or bench for his country.

We have no history whatsoever of squad growth. This situation can't happen again. We need to become familiar with the idea that Heaslip won't be playing against Tonga in an AI even when fit, or that Healy and Best might not make the XXIII against Scotland in a 6N dead rubber.

- should really be in the Ireland thread, but can't really just pull the link in there.

jm08

Deleted User wrote: »

This is the most ridiculous part of the whole article to be fair.

We have no history whatsoever of squad growth. This situation can't happen again. We need to become familiar with the idea that Heaslip won't be playing against Tonga in an AI even when fit, or that Healy and Best might not make the XXIII against Scotland in a 6N dead rubber.

- should really be in the Ireland thread, but can't really just pull the link in there.

A similar story with John Hayes I'd say. We've rarely been short of hookers (though it was a bit tight there after Flannery retired) or backrowers, but when it has come to outhalfs and tightheads - now thats a different story.

totallegend

Deleted User wrote: »

This is the most ridiculous part of the whole article to be fair.

It was the first time in his 128-cap and 13-year career that a fully fit O'Gara was not on the team or bench for his country.

I'm pretty sure that's also not true.

thomond2006

ROG doesn't need his wife to defend him.

totallegend

thomond2006 wrote: »

ROG doesn't need his wife to defend him.

Again, I didn't post it to have a go at ROG, I was just surprised that she came out and said these things to a newspaper.

Paulw

thomond2006 wrote: »

ROG doesn't need his wife to defend him.

He may not need it, but it seems to be what is happening. Very childish, it seems.

In many ways, his ending at Ireland and Munster were not what anyone would have wanted. He has been a great servant for both, but he had a poor year this year, and his kicking hasn't been what it used to be. He has made some terrible decisions in play this year. Combine that with poor performances by Ireland and also Munster made his ending all the more visible.

Maybe his new coaching career will go well, but it certainly won't be easy there, especially with Sexton. A personality conflict won't help their careers.

thomond2006

totallegend wrote: »

Again, I didn't post it to have a go at ROG, I was just surprised that she came out and said these things to a newspaper.

That's what I mean.

darragh_haven

Paulw wrote: »

Maybe his new coaching career will go well, but it certainly won't be easy there, especially with Sexton. A personality conflict won't help their careers.

Why do you think there'd be a personality conflict. From most accounts there are on good terms for the last while.

Micky Dolenz

Paulw wrote: »

Maybe his new coaching career will go well, but it certainly won't be easy there, especially with Sexton. A personality conflict won't help their careers.

I'd think that is over played. They would have trained together for years, discussed tactics, traded stories etc. I have no doubt they are pro's and maybe even friends.

I would expect that they will even socialise on occasion over the next while.

Paulw

darragh_haven wrote: »

Why do you think there'd be a personality conflict. From most accounts there are on good terms for the last while.

They never seem to get along. They train separately, kick separately and barely spend any time together in the Ireland camp. Even for national games, they don't talk and don't seem to have any time for each other on the pitch even before kickoff.

its_phil

Paulw wrote: »

They never seem to get along. They train separately, kick separately and barely spend any time together in the Ireland camp. Even for national games, they don't talk and don't seem to have any time for each other on the pitch even before kickoff.

So from about 20 secs worth of tv at the end of an Ireland game, you've come to the conclusion they don't like eachother.

How would you know if they spend time with eachother in camp and before kick offs? Nothing you have said is based on fact and all speculation.

Larbre34

Both men admitted directly at the weekend that they had got off to a rocky start but that they had a friendship now, admired each other greatly and would eat and socialise together within the context of team gatherings

Sounds an ok relationship to me, if they just needed to show bare tolerance for each other they wouldnt have spoken so warmly as ROG did on Sky and Jonny did to Mick Corcoran. Besides, they are being paid the guts of a Million between them to get their sh*t together and get on!

On Mrs O'Gara, the Indo should never have asked and she should never have spoken. ROG is nothing if not a proud guy, if I were him Id be spitting. Was it an interview or attributed quotes though?

Cookiemunster

Paulw wrote: »

They never seem to get along. They train separately, kick separately and barely spend any time together in the Ireland camp. Even for national games, they don't talk and don't seem to have any time for each other on the pitch even before kickoff.

How wrong you are. ROG said on Sky on Saturday that they're good mates and often go for a coffee together. In fact according to one of the recent paper articles ROG is going to Sextons wedding.

Paulw

its_phil wrote: »

So from about 20 secs worth of tv at the end of an Ireland game, you've come to the conclusion they don't like eachother.

From personal observation, not from the TV. I am there for every Ireland game, and there before the teams arrive. I have also talked to others who are on camp.

Kinda obvious if you look at their body language and their interaction, especially compared to other teammates.

opinionatedfan

O’Driscoll admitted that he was “as shocked as anyone else,” on discovering that O’Gara had agreed a coaching role with Racing Metro, signing a two year deal. “The boys have had an interesting relationship but it has grown into a good friendship recently that people might not be aware of. It’ll be good to have one another over there, in a new environment, and it is a dynamic that will work well.

“Their friendship is genuine. It is not a case of covering up anything. They’re good friends now so much so that Rog has been invited to Johnny’s wedding. They got off on a bad footing all those years ago in Croker but Rog understands the competitive nature of Johnny and vice versa.

“When Johnny became number one, not that Ronan resigned himself to that fact, there was probably a little more acceptance that was the (pecking) order. When they spent so much time together in kicking practice and days off they probably got to know each other’s personalities better.”

rrpc

opinionatedfan wrote: »

O’Driscoll admitted that he was “as shocked as anyone else,” on discovering that O’Gara had agreed a coaching role with Racing Metro, signing a two year deal. “The boys have had an interesting relationship but it has grown into a good friendship recently that people might not be aware of. It’ll be good to have one another over there, in a new environment, and it is a dynamic that will work well.

“Their friendship is genuine. It is not a case of covering up anything. They’re good friends now so much so that Rog has been invited to Johnny’s wedding. They got off on a bad footing all those years ago in Croker but Rog understands the competitive nature of Johnny and vice versa.

“When Johnny became number one, not that Ronan resigned himself to that fact, there was probably a little more acceptance that was the (pecking) order. When they spent so much time together in kicking practice and days off they probably got to know each other’s personalities better.”

He tweeted this pic the other day:

rrpc

And this one:

Podge_irl

This is simply further evidence of the Indo continuing its inexorable slide into the mire of tabloid journalism.

It is truly a **** paper.

She's not the first person to suggest ROG deserved more respect mind you, though I have no clue what any of them actually mean should have happened.

phog

Paulw wrote: »

I have also talked to others who are on camp.

There's somebody certainly spinning yarns.

Rightwing

Great deal for ROG, Racing must have money to burn.

totallegend

http://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/top-14/2012-2013/ronan-o-gara-l-expert-qu-il-manquait-au-racing_sto3768649/story.shtml

"Ronan is the experienced player we've been missing", according to Laurent Labit on Tuesday. The backs coach at Castres and future coach at Racing Metro was full of praise for the the ex-Munster player. The highest points scorer in the H Cup, O'Gara will be a consultant for the youths set-up and a specialist kicking coach for the pros.

"French rugby is suffering from a deficiency in this area at the moment. Ronan is experienced, has a great eye for drop goals, clearing kicks, garryowens... He finished the season very well, it would be difficult to do better in this regard."

O'Gara - Sexton; "There are great relations between the two", reports Labit, who scotched any rumour of rivalry between the two. The only remaining question is, will O'Gara be registered as a player next season, like William Servat this season with Toulouse? Labit didn't give an answer. With a smile, he just said "it seems to be in fashion..."

Winters

Would he not lose his tax rebate if he plays for Racing?

Lelantos

Winters wrote: »

Would he not lose his tax rebate if he plays for Racing?

If he's registered as a coach no, doesn't mean he can't play. Would be interesting to see what happens at 6N time when Sexton is on Ireland duty

Winters

Lelantos wrote: »

If he's registered as a coach no, doesn't mean he can't play. Would be interesting to see what happens at 6N time when Sexton is on Ireland duty

Who is the kicking coach at Munster currently?

totallegend

Lelantos wrote: »

If he's registered as a coach no, doesn't mean he can't play. Would be interesting to see what happens at 6N time when Sexton is on Ireland duty

They'll still have Wiesnewski and JM Hernandez so I don't think there'll be any chance of O'Gara being called up.

I'd imagine Revenue would be looking for their tax rebate back if he ended up playing so it's a non-runner really.

Buer

Winters wrote: »

Who is the kicking coach at Munster currently?

I don't believe there is one. Most teams don't have a dedicated kicking coach. It's a luxury and, if there is one, they combine it with another role like Richie Murphy does at Leinster as skills coach. ROG will be involved in backs coaching too I'd say.

jm08

totallegend wrote: »

They'll still have Wiesnewski and JM Hernandez so I don't think there'll be any chance of O'Gara being called up.

I'd imagine Revenue would be looking for their tax rebate back if he ended up playing so it's a non-runner really.

If he wasn't getting paid for it, you'd imagine they could do nothing about it (he would still be allowed play rugby). Dutchy Holland & Shaun Payne both lined out for Munster after they had officially retired.