Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

billie1b

Strumms wrote: »

Dublin airport is such a cluster **** when it comes to long term planning. Been working there in some capacity there on and off for the guts of 20 years and there has never been any point where a certain part of it hasn't represented a building site at some point... Pier C is a prime example which lasted how long exactly ? If you had a suspicious mind you might begin to wonder if certain people high up within the DAA might have friends, family or certain interests in the construction business as people cannot be seriously that bad over a long period of time at planning ? What they have spent in total would probably make your eyes water and a lot of it from what I see would be just knocking down or changing things from stands to infrastructure that were only recently built. You just don't see that happening at other airports certainly at the scale it happens at DUB.

There's an aul saying around here, 'if you want a job for life, get a job as a DAA building contractor'

Jamie2k9

Strumms wrote: »

Dublin airport is such a cluster **** when it comes to long term planning. Been working there in some capacity there on and off for the guts of 20 years and there has never been any point where a certain part of it hasn't represented a building site at some point... Pier C is a prime example which lasted how long exactly ? If you had a suspicious mind you might begin to wonder if certain people high up within the DAA might have friends, family or certain interests in the construction business as people cannot be seriously that bad over a long period of time at planning ? What they have spent in total would probably make your eyes water and a lot of it from what I see would be just knocking down or changing things from stands to infrastructure that were only recently built. You just don't see that happening at other airports certainly at the scale it happens at DUB.

Beleive it or not airlines do not want to pay for such long term planning, both EI/FR who carry around 75% of total traffic are able to bend the regulators ears so they will not approve projects......

Pat Dunne

Strumms wrote: »

Dublin airport is such a cluster **** when it comes to long term planning. Been working there in some capacity there on and off for the guts of 20 years and there has never been any point where a certain part of it hasn't represented a building site at some point... Pier C is a prime example which lasted how long exactly ? If you had a suspicious mind you might begin to wonder if certain people high up within the DAA might have friends, family or certain interests in the construction business as people cannot be seriously that bad over a long period of time at planning ? What they have spent in total would probably make your eyes water and a lot of it from what I see would be just knocking down or changing things from stands to infrastructure that were only recently built. You just don't see that happening at other airports certainly at the scale it happens at DUB.

In all my years travelling, I have yet to travel to an airport that had not got some form of construction going on. DUB, is the size of a reasonably large Irish town and I have yet to encounter a town where wasn't some form of construction taking place.

JCX BXC

Pat Dunne wrote: »

I have yet to encounter a town where wasn't some form of construction taking place.

You obviously haven't been in the west between 2008-2015

Tenger

Strumms wrote: »

Dublin airport is such a cluster **** when it comes to long term planning. Been working there in some capacity there on and off for the guts of 20 years and there has never been any point where a certain part of it hasn't represented a building site at some point... Pier C is a prime example which lasted how long exactly ? .....

I am in agreement....however I many years ago watched a Billy Connoly gig and he made the same point....."has anyone ever been to an airport that they have actually finished?"

Ben D Bus

I remember hearing Heathrow referred to as the only building site in the world with it's own airport.

But really it applies to all successful airports.

jamo2oo9

Tenger wrote: »

I am in agreement....however I many years ago watched a Billy Connoly gig and he made the same point....."has anyone ever been to an airport that they have actually finished?"

Kai Tak in Hong Kong could be considered one? Granted it did close down and was moved but technically, it was finished when it was closed down in late 90's

Tenger

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

Kai Tak in Hong Kong could be considered one? Granted it did close down and was moved but technically, it was finished when it was closed down in late 90's

Dammit, he found my hair to spilt!!

Stevek101

Any idea where these new gates in Pier D are to be located?

Jack1985

Stevek101 wrote: »

Any idea where these new gates in Pier D are to be located?

Swords.

billie1b

Stevek101 wrote: »

Any idea where these new gates in Pier D are to be located?

Supposedly they are buiding a satellite with 6-8 gates heading north coming out from the area of gate 109R - 110L, the entrance to it will be by lift and moving stairs just across from Leopolds

Stevek101

Memories of those sweat-box prefabs back in the day. When is it due to be completed or have they only applied for planning?

The end of D is already a mess with so many gates bundled together.

billie1b

billie1b wrote: »

Supposedly they are buiding a satellite with 6-8 gates heading north coming out from the area of gate 109R - 110L, the entrance to it will be by lift and moving stairs just across from Leopolds

I thought it was an extension west from 121 then northwest to 119L ?

The "extra" gates I also thought were the new 5G stands and were bus gates.

Jamie2k9

Don't think a planning application has been launched for D yet however A will have expanded busing facilities so one would expect passengers to be bused out of A for 5G.

trellheim

hold on a sec I'm assuming this is to cover off morning peaks ? even if the wind is right ATC don't seem to bother running the dual take offs on 28 and 34 that used to happen so what point is building more capacity if ATC cant get them away

billie1b

This is the construction zone for Pier D extension, sorry about the crap pictures

trellheim

trellheim wrote: »

hold on a sec I'm assuming this is to cover off morning peaks ? even if the wind is right ATC don't seem to bother running the dual take offs on 28 and 34 that used to happen so what point is building more capacity if ATC cant get them away

ATC only use dual runways when the wind is favourable ie north of 270 degs as not enough aircraft want to use it if it's south of this and it reduces flexibility by having it as a runway not being used.

billie1b

billie1b wrote: »

This is the construction zone for Pier D extension, sorry about the crap pictures

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Billie all they are doing there is removing the top layer of the taxiway to rehabilitate it and installing green taxiway lights. They are not building a terminal extension.

http://iaip.iaa.ie/iaip/Frame1.htm SUP (top left) 24/15

billie1b

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Billie all they are doing there is removing the top layer of the taxiway to rehabilitate it and installing green taxiway lights. They are not building a terminal extension.

http://iaip.iaa.ie/iaip/Frame1.htm SUP (top left) 24/15

Yeah that's exactly what we heard and thought that it was too but two days ago according to the builders that's where they are putting the new satellite on to the building, he seemed pretty adamant about it. Could be wrong though

Gaoth Laidir

Why can't we just do what many other countries do and have these remote stands and a few shuttle buses? Saves on the building works of a new pier and could mean we leave R16/34 intact.

billie1b

billie1b wrote: »

Yeah that's exactly what we heard and thought that it was too but two days ago according to the builders that's where they are putting the new satellite on to the building, he seemed pretty adamant about it. Could be wrong though

That would be a loss of stands and a loss of a taxi lane.

Gaoth Laidir

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Why can't we just do what many other countries do and have these remote stands and a few shuttle buses?

That's exactly what they are doing though.

davebuck

The DAA talked about a new master plan a while back for the airport anyone in the know have an insight into how much work is really going on?
We all know about the new runway but no firm plan announced!!!
Parking stands and pier space must be very tight Aer Lingus recently said they are talking to the DAA about such issues. Surely they should have had the next master plan out by now?????

cgcsb

Seen this in the paper about funding for the runway.

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/dublin-airport-could-get-new-runway-daa-looking-at-bond-funding-34557545.html

Obviously central government does not want to help out with this one.

Jamie2k9

cgcsb wrote: »

Seen this in the paper about funding for the runway.

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/dublin-airport-could-get-new-runway-daa-looking-at-bond-funding-34557545.html

Obviously central government does not want to help out with this one.

They shouldn't be helping either

bronn

Quick question, for those in the know. I recently took an Aer Lingus regional flight from Gate 333 (possibly 334 - can't remember). The bus picked us up from outside the door, drove underneath the Pier E bridge, all the way up Pier E, all the way back down Pier E, brought us back to where we started from and then headed off out to where the little planes live. Every time I've departed from those gates, the same thing has happened. Why?

I don't mind because I like having a snoop around he airfield but still, it's the very definition of the scenic route. :pac: Just wondering why this happens.

VG31

bronn wrote: »

Quick question, for those in the know. I recently took an Aer Lingus regional flight from Gate 333 (possibly 334 - can't remember). The bus picked us up from outside the door, drove underneath the Pier E bridge, all the way up Pier E, all the way back down Pier E, brought us back to where we started from and then headed off out to where the little planes live. Every time I've departed from those gates, the same thing has happened. Why?

I don't mind because I like having a snoop around he airfield but still, it's the very definition of the scenic route. :pac: Just wondering why this happens.

It's due to a one way traffic system as far as I know. The bus can't just turn around at the gate.

Mebuntu

From the Aircoach the other day I noticed that there is some work being done on the field just on the northern side of the 28 approach lights, quite close to them, in fact. Anyone know what they're doing?

jamo2oo9

Mebuntu wrote: »

From the Aircoach the other day I noticed that there is some work being done on the field just on the northern side of the 28 approach lights, quite close to them, in fact. Anyone know what they're doing?

Mentioned before, they're putting in drainage.

jamo2oo9

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

Mentioned before, they're putting in drainage.

Building 4 new stands as an extension of the old cargo area.