What are the pros and cons of multiracial multicultural society?

0066ad

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Never mentioned multicultural utopia, did I? It's certainly the safest city I've lived in. I can provide stats for that. I said I lived in an area with a large Muslim population and have had only positive experiences but twist my words to suit your agenda.


Obviously you're going to provide evidence now to disprove my positive experiences of living in the most multicultural area of the city because otherwise, it sounds like you're talking out of your arse and basing your post on a weekend break, which makes your argument sound a bit shoddy unfortunately.

You can make assumptions all you want to suit your own agenda.

Legs.Eleven

0066ad wrote: »

You can make assumptions all you want to suit your own agenda.

Ho hum.

old hippy

0066ad wrote: »

You can make assumptions all you want to suit your own agenda.

What's your agenda? I smell BNP/EDL types whiffs....

Legs.Eleven

Woodoo has mysteriously disappeared and all we have is some fella who's been on a weekend break to Madrid implying it's some kind of multicultural hell hole when stats show it's one of the safest cities in Europe.


Time for bed, I think.

Night fellers!

old hippy

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Woodoo has mysteriously disappeared and all we have is some fella who's been on a weekend break to Madrid implying it's some kind of multicultural hell hole when stats show it's one of the safest cities in Europe.


Time for bed, I think.

Night fellers!

Take care & excellent work!

pabloh999

Obviously not all Muslim immigrants are criminals and rapists,
But they do come from countries where women tend to be subservient to men.
This in turn leads to problems when they land on liberal shores, where women dress and act as they please.

It is strange how some people here cannot even acknowledge that there maybe, perhaps just even a little bit
could be a problem, even a bit of a problem with certain groups integrating with our godless decadent western ways(Danish cartoon anyone?)

Sweden-

Immigrants are also overrepresented in sexual crime statistics. In a news report
in 2010, a spokesperson for the Oslo Police Department stated that every case of
assault rapes in Oslo in the years 2007, 2008 and 2009 was committed by a
non-Western immigrant

Finland -

According to official statistics, 21.0% of rapes (which the autors are know)
have been committed by foreigners in Finland, who comprise 2.2% of
population

Sweden -

immigrants were three times more likely to be investigated for violent assault,
and five times more likely to be investigated for sex crimes. Those from North Africa and Western Asia were overrepresented

woodoo

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Google it yourself. The evidence is laughable.

We need to go to the USA to get stats, Rape/sexual assault

white victim - black offender

Total white victims - 194,270

of those white victims, 16.7% were done by black offenders

194,270 x .167 = 32,443

black victim - white offender

Total black victims - 17,920

of those black victims, 0% were done by white offenders

http://bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus06.pdf

woodoo

pabloh999 wrote: »

Obviously not all Muslim immigrants are criminals and rapists,
But they do come from countries where women tend to be subservient to men.
This in turn leads to problems when they land on liberal shores, where women dress and act as they please.

It is strange how some people here cannot even acknowledge that there maybe, perhaps just even a little bit
could be a problem, even a bit of a problem with certain groups integrating with our godless decadent western ways(Danish cartoon anyone?)

Sweden-


Finland -


Sweden -

Its would be laughable if it weren't so serious. They just not want to admit that rape and particularly gang rape is a problem among non EU immigrant.

wandatowell

woodoo wrote: »

We need to go to the USA to get stats, Rape/sexual assault

white victim - black offender

Total white victims - 194,270

of those white victims, 16.7% were done by black offenders

194,270 x .167 = 32,443

black victim - white offender

Total black victims - 17,920

of those black victims, 0% were done by white offenders

http://bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus06.pdf

I refuse to work with pdf's

0066ad

Woodoo they ask for stats and then when you provide the stats, they say that's
bollox I live here and haven't seen it. And then claim we have our heads in the sand.

Legs.Eleven

woodoo wrote: »

We need to go to the USA to get stats, Rape/sexual assault

white victim - black offender

Total white victims - 194,270

of those white victims, 16.7% were done by black offenders

194,270 x .167 = 32,443

black victim - white offender

Total black victims - 17,920

of those black victims, 0% were done by white offenders

http://bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus06.pdf

You couldn't prove your original point so you just change the topic, yeah?

Excuse me a moment *ahem*....


HAHAHAHAHA!!

woodoo

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

You couldn't prove your original point so you just change the topic, yeah?

Excuse me a moment *ahem*....


HAHAHAHAHA!!

Its still a problem legs admit it.

BTW Its not my problem if we are too scared to compile the stats here in europe.

Ruudi_Mentari

Multicultural is essential, lest we end up with the same idiot nationwide in that regard and so we certainly have some serious rolling back to do there which appears impossible, so ingrained has it become with the norm but multiracial I have always bn apprehensive about......l mean imagine a multiracial society, of almost exclusively the same über dumb hence utterly domineering monoculture of the past twenty years and counting here.... :eek: terrifying.

old hippy

woodoo wrote: »

Its still a problem legs admit it.

BTW Its not my problem if we are too scared to compile the stats here in europe.

You and your fellow supporters here scare me more than your fancy pie charts and dubious stats, in all honesty.

Legs.Eleven

woodoo wrote: »

Its still a problem legs admit it.

BTW Its not my problem if we are too scared to compile the stats here in europe.

Oh but you were telling us to Google stats because you couldn't actually provide them. So basically now you admit you were talking out of your hole?


*ahem*



HAHAHAHAHA!


Edit: How do you know if it's true if you haven't seen any credible stats yourself????

woodoo

old hippy wrote: »

You and your fellow supporters here scare me more than your fancy pie charts and dubious stats, in all honesty.

If we can't admit a problem exists how are we going to address it?

Legs.Eleven

woodoo wrote: »

If we can't admit a problem exists how are we going to address it?

You never answered my question: how did you make your original claim that most rapes in Europe are carried out by non-Europeans without you seeing any CREDIBLE stats? I'm sorry man, with all due respect, you've made a fool of yourself and every other argument you make sounds a bit shoddy as a result.

woodoo

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Oh but you were telling us to Google stats because you couldn't actually provide them. So basically now you admit you were talking out of your hole?


*ahem*



HAHAHAHAHA!


Edit: How do you know if it's true if you haven't seen any credible stats yourself????

When there is numerous articles about black and muslim gang rapes and none of white gang rapes you begin to get the picture. I have provided valid data on the number of black people in jail in the US and UK. Or do you doubt this official data. There is a clear problem but you want to bury your head in the sand. Its quite sad really.

0066ad

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

You never answered my question: how did you make your original claim that most rapes in Europe are carried out by non-Europeans without you seeing any CREDIBLE stats? I'm sorry man, with all due respect, you've made a fool of yourself and every other argument you make sounds a bit shoddy as a result.

I believe he said most gang rapes.

Legs.Eleven

woodoo wrote: »

When there is numerous articles about black and muslim gang rapes and none of white gang rapes you begin to get the picture. I have provided valid data on the number of black people in jail in the US and UK. Or do you doubt this official data. There is a clear problem but you want to bury your head in the sand. Its quite sad really.

There's articles on all kinds of things but it doesn't make them any less impartial or credible.


I want you to provide credible stats to prove your initial claim that most rapes in Europe are carried out by non-Europeans because that is some claim to make.

woodoo

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

You never answered my question: how did you make your original claim that most rapes in Europe are carried out by non-Europeans without you seeing any CREDIBLE stats? I'm sorry man, with all due respect, you've made a fool of yourself and every other argument you make sounds a bit shoddy as a result.

Legs i am not going to be responding when you can't even get what i said right.

Legs.Eleven

woodoo wrote: »

Legs i am not going to be responding when you can't even get what i said right.

Look at the stats throughout europe for gang rapes, they are very rarely carried out by native white europeans.

There it is. Now prove it and then we'll move on to the states. Provide those stats to prove your point. You asked me to look at the stats, I can't find them so I want you to provide them please.

Legs.Eleven

0066ad wrote: »

I believe he said most gang rapes.

Okay. Now I'm waiting for the evidence.


Edit: Credible evidence and not extreme right-wing propaganda.

woodoo

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

There it is. Now prove it and then we'll move on to the states.

Stats was the wrong choice of word the stats are hard to come by.

The stats in america are a little clearer. Going by the stats there and the heavily weighted article count evidence here i have no reason to believe whites are as over represented as blacks and muslims re gang rapes.

Legs do you believe blacks and muslims aren't overrepresented re gang rapes?

Legs.Eleven

woodoo wrote: »

Stats was the wrong choice of word the stats are hard to come by.

The stats in america are a little clearer. Going by the stats there and the heavily weighted article count evidence here i have no reason to believe whites are as over represented as blacks and muslims re gang rapes.

Legs do you believe blacks and muslims aren't overrepresented re gang rapes?

Stats were the wrong choice of word? Is that the sound of someone backtracking I hear?

You keep going back to America. Let's deal with your original claim, shall we? I said provide me with the evidence you have used to base your claim that most gang rapes in Europe are carried out by non-white non-Europeans.

If you can't provide stats, then provide me with credible evidence.


I'll read it in the morning as I'm going to bed now.

woodoo

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Stats were the wrong choice of word? Is that the sound of someone backtracking I hear?

You keep going back to America. Let's deal with your original claim, shall we? I said provide me with the evidence you have used to base your claim that most gang rapes in Europe are carried out by non-white non-Europeans.

If you can't provide stats, then provide me with credible evidence.


I'll read it in the morning as I'm going to bed now.

Off to bed to avoid answering my question. Exactly as i suspected. Ask questions but give no answers thats very easy.

0066ad

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Stats were the wrong choice of word? Is that the sound of someone backtracking I hear?

You keep going back to America. Let's deal with your original claim, shall we? I said provide me with the evidence you have used to base your claim that most gang rapes in Europe are carried out by non-white non-Europeans.

If you can't provide stats, then provide me with credible evidence.


I'll read it in the morning as I'm going to bed now.

Like wise can you provide links it's mostly whites and Europeans gangs
that claim most gang rapes and also next time you visit retiro park who
is the first to offer you drugs blacks, moroccans, south americans or
caucasian.

Cavehill Red

One of the issues that affects any discussion of the commission of crime is the records kept about crime.
It's interesting that if you look at any recent Garda annual report, there is absolutely zero mention of who commits crime. No mention of ethnicity, nationality, country of origin, anything.
Why is that? Is it that they don't keep track of such things? If not, why not? Same with prison statistics. We know there are non-Irish nationals in our prisons. We used to be able to find out how many and where they came from, up until about 2006.
There is, in effect, a deliberate gap in publicised information relating to crime and punishment in Ireland, relating to nationality and/or ethnicity. If the authorities refuse to release the information, the media cannot inform the public about it, and hence none of us are able to discuss it in an informed manner.
Now, the question arises as to why do they not release that information?

SeanW

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

And what after school programmes are you referring to?

Watch the second video in the post you replied to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPFD7V4LUCU

Are you seriously suggesting that the BNP has anything like that?

You don't think far right groups such as the BNP, Golden Dawn, Espana 2000 (to name but a few) hold any kind of "out reach" programmes to reach the youth? Are you serious?

The only one of these groups that seriously concerns me is Golden Dawn - I've mentioned this in the past - that with the economic collapse of Greece, GD is setting itself up as a quasi government. Procuring food and basic supplies for poor Greeks (with citizen ID) and running vigilante police patrols.
In terms of the future of Greece, Golden Dawn concerns me as much as any Islamofascist in the UK/France/Germany etc.

I don't care.

That's not good enough, you accused me of being RACIST against people of colour when its clear that my problem is with CULTURE.

Either show a post where I claimed to dislike brown people or withdraw that scurrilous lie!!

Again I will ask you: tell me your experiences of living in a multicultural community and I'll take you seriously.

I've had many positive interactions with people whose lives and choices are different to my own. Black people, gay people, and even a few Muslims, haven't personally met any that I could assert are crazy. And on an individual level, I have no problem with normal people (of any race or religion) that just happen to pray a lot or not drink or whatever.

None of that means that Islamic extremism is not a matter for concern though. None of that reduces the alarm one should feel when hearing of people calling for someone to be murdered because they draw a cartoon or make a critical movie, or set up schools teaching that homosexuals should be killed, that Jews and Christians are monkeys and pigs or that Sharia law is for the entire world (in opposition to those horrible evil Jews that are themselves, supposidly, trying to take over the world for ... Israel or something).

Grayson wrote: »

I have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry.
Care to elaborate a bit?

You were talking about how you had been abused and attacked for being British in Ireland.
I agree that's bad, but in Germany, people are abused, attacked and murdered for being too German, in Germany.
While what happened to you was bad, what happens in Germany just seems to me to be a whole other level of messed up.

Norwesterner

jazz101 wrote: »

Maybe because he openly said that whites are superior to blacks, claimed that anyone denying it was deluding themselves, and subsequently tried to claim that blacks by nature try to move to a city en masse for the sole purpose of destroying it economically?

Love to debate the issue but I've just got a warning for the very post of mine you quoted.
Walking on eggshells here.
Probably get another warning or banning for this post too.