Milk Price- Please read Mod note in post #1

mf240

kowtow wrote: »

The idea that intervention would force buyers to buy and cause an early recovery is frightening in its ignorance.

Will it not just drag out the recovery as all this stock will have to be sold when markets turn.

Beef is looking good . All those friesan bull calves from 2013 that i should of given away are getting fleshy now. They should help balance the books.

jaymla627

Dawggone wrote: »

Good Lord!!


Food is political.

Looked up the website that facilitates it, a 500 cow herd with a rolling average of 10,000 litres a cow if it pays a levy of 2 cent a litre on all of its milk supply guarantees itself on 90% of its milk a margin of 18 cent a litre over feed costs pretty good scheme

Dawggone

jaymla627 wrote: »

Looked up the website that facilitates it, a 500 cow herd with a rolling average of 10,000 litres a cow if it pays a levy of 2 cent a litre on all of its milk supply guarantees itself on 90% of its milk a margin of 18 cent a litre over feed costs pretty good scheme

Link?

jaymla627

Dawggone wrote: »

Link?

www.futurefordairy.com

yosemitesam1

jaymla627 wrote: »

w.futurefordairy.com

Is land cheap on the east coast, a lot of it has 200 day + growing season, could possibly be very low cost, cheap grain, energy and labor..

mahoney_j

Latest got -10.7%

Buford T. Justice XIX

mahoney_j wrote: »

Latest got -10.7%

What volumes were going through?

mahoney_j

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

What volumes were going through?

Haven't looked that far yet,you'd have to be worried though with kiwis at start of their season and quantities going through gdt will only get bigger deflating further a fairly depressed market...

kevthegaff

We could be all on the beef forum sooner than later

Milked out

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

What volumes were going through?

Read they had upped the volume going thru, possible effort to get price bottoming out earlI er maybe?

mf240

Glanbia 26 cents plus 2 cents pocket money from the cookie jar.

Will be lots of fat calves next spring.

kevthegaff

mf240 wrote: »

Glanbia 26 cents plus 2 cents pocket money from the cookie jar.

Will be lots of fat calves next spring.

And no fat cats:-D

whelan2

mf240 wrote: »

Glanbia 26 cents plus 2 cents pocket money from the cookie jar.

Will be lots of fat calves next spring.

how much will be left in the cookie jar?

Buford T. Justice XIX

Who took the cookies from the cookie jar? ::-):

freedominacup

whelan2 wrote: »

how much will be left in the cookie jar?

It has to be getting small now.

whelan2

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Who took the cookies from the cookie jar? ::-):

fecking cookie monster again

whelan2

freedominacup wrote: »

It has to be getting small now.

look at other co-ops paying 27.5-28cpl with no co-op support realistically we are getting 26 cpl

mf240

whelan2 wrote: »

how much will be left in the cookie jar?

Theres a few coins and a butter voucher.

kevthegaff

Ill be on a diet so for awhile so:-(

frazzledhome

whelan2 wrote: »

look at other co-ops paying 27.5-28cpl with no co-op support realistically we are getting 26 cpl

Name "one" that's not supporting price.

We're obsessing over price paid. Are we as obsessive about the price we earn? I'm talking solids
no penalties
bonus' to be had
ridding herds of passengers
maxing grass intake
Building covers
Selling surplus stock
Milking right amount of cows for land base
Matching winter calvers to bonus
Drying off for winter as opposed to giving cheap milk to processors
Etc

WheatenBriar

frazzledhome wrote: »

Name "one" that's not supporting price.

We're obsessing over price paid. Are we as obsessive about the price we earn? I'm talking solids
no penalties
bonus' to be had
ridding herds of passengers
maxing grass intake
Building covers
Selling surplus stock
Milking right amount of cows for land base
Matching winter calvers to bonus
Drying off for winter as opposed to giving cheap milk to processors
Etc

Ah now...
People may or may not be doing all or some things right on solids
It's not as if A coop doesn't gain pro rata off those things being done too,it's not all for ourselves


But the lower the base price,the less we are paid right? That's a major issue
for example 2 cent on 50k litres is still a thousand euros in one month
The so called fund is paying yourself out of your own money,manangement dipping into our own purses (co op coffers ) and giving it back ,the other dairies are just taking less of a margin,which is a much much fairer thing to do

kevthegaff

Im changing my thought process, Rather then increasing numbers, cull hard(may need the money) good points frazz

kevthegaff

If we all increase solids will the base price stay the same...

frazzledhome

WheatenBriar wrote: »

Ah now...
People may or may not be doing all or some things right on solids
It's not as if A coop doesn't gain pro rata off those things being done too,it's not all for ourselves


But the lower the base price,the less we are paid right? That's a major issue
for example 2 cent on 50k litres is still a thousand euros in one month
The so called fund is paying yourself out of your own money,manangement dipping into our own purses (co op coffers ) and giving it back ,the other dairies are just taking less of a margin,which is a much much fairer thing to do

No where in my post did I disagree with any if what you posted. The reality is price is in the tank and we have to deal with it. Simple Simon et al are talking of EU interference, all that'll do is delay any recovery.

Again name a coop that's not subbing price ATM

frazzledhome

kevthegaff wrote: »

If we all increase solids will the base price stay the same...

Yes

kevthegaff

frazzledhome wrote: »

Yes

I mean year on year

mf240

frazzledhome wrote: »

Name "one" that's not supporting price.

We're obsessing over price paid. Are we as obsessive about the price we earn? I'm talking solids
no penalties
bonus' to be had
ridding herds of passengers
maxing grass intake
Building covers
Selling surplus stock
Milking right amount of cows for land base
Matching winter calvers to bonus
Drying off for winter as opposed to giving cheap milk to processors
Etc

All that is good advice. And should be done when milk is at 39 cents just the same as now.

That doesent mean we cant expect to be paid as much as is possible instead of just taking what were given.

Dawggone

Many moons ago I was harvesting a bit of barley for a neighbour. 'It's a bit thin' I said , 'matter a feck' he retorts, 'price is what really matters'.

I will never forget that.

whelan2

at dg meeting today apparently only 10% of farmers are acheiving 450 kg/cow of milk solids per cow or 1260g ms /ha, i was also amazed at the very low figure who complete a profit monitor

Greengrass1

What do ye classify aa a passenger?