Makes you proud. Good aul honest Irish Politics.

HAMMERCURRENT · 14-04-2013 8:31pm

joe swanson wrote: »

Explain how i am uneducated. You did not clarify that.

You should have used a capital I

Zebra3 · 14-04-2013 8:32pm

Hi.

Down the years I've voted for FF, FG or Labour. During their years in power they gave the RC church the freedom to rape and terrorise kids.

Those same parties have also granted tax amnesties to rich criminals and steal from the poor to give to scrounging bankers.

Lately FF allowed our country to be used as a transit point for victims of America's state terrorism. Now that FG/Lab are in power, they refuse to even think about looking into that criminalty.

Gotta go now, as I'm off to look down my nose at SF. :rolleyes:

joe swanson · 14-04-2013 8:35pm

HAMMERCURRENT wrote: »

You should have used a capital I

You are correct. Please accept my humblest apologies.

My name is URL · 14-04-2013 8:39pm

token101 wrote: »

Because he's running for Irish office and asking Irish citizens to place trust in him! :pac: The levels of hypocrisy when it comes to these guys is phenomenal. One the one hand you'll hear people wanting members of Fianna Fail out of office/dead for their part in an economic mess, which they've admitted culpability for by either stepping away from office or by apologising (not that it makes OK, but at least they're aren't outright denying it). Then seconds later, you'll hear the same people pipe up and talk nonsense about Gerry Adams being the solution; he'll fix the trust issues in Irish politics with his continual denials of the past and highly suspect economic policies. How could you not be on a high horse?

Loads of shadow-boxing going on there but you never really answered my question. Why should only one side in an historical conflict be expected to open up 100% about their past involvement?

It wouldn't be of any use for a start. Would those demanding the truth accept as truth what Adams had to say? That's why a commission would need to be set up if people want the actual truth. Otherwise they're being completely facetious in saying they want to know the truth.. all they really want is one groups interpretation of the 'truth', which can then easily be torn asunder and used to perpetuate their own entrenchment.

HAMMERCURRENT · 14-04-2013 8:41pm

joe swanson wrote: »

You are correct. Please accept my humblest apologies.

It's the little details that are important.:)

GRMA · 14-04-2013 8:42pm

If Adams was in the IRA he'd be stupid to say he was because that admission would land him in jail... why do you think he is so eager for the truth commission?

Lelantos · 14-04-2013 8:44pm

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

Errr... no. They're being taken more and more seriously as an alternative to the others. Let's face it, they'll be in power in a couple of elections time.

The signs weren't being sold by SF.

Not one major party would consider SF as a coalition partner.

OCorcrainn · 14-04-2013 8:51pm

So if I turned up at Fine Gael or Fianna Fáil's Ard Fheis and started peddling bestiality porn does that mean those parties support it and are responsible for said bestiality porn being on sale?

Lelantos · 14-04-2013 8:52pm

OCorcrainn wrote: »

So if I turned up at Fine Gael or Fianna Fáil's Ard Fheis and started peddling gay porn does that mean those parties support it and are responsible for said gay porn being on sale?

Only if those parties had previously provided actors & cameras for shooting those said movies

OCorcrainn · 14-04-2013 8:57pm

Lelantos wrote: »

Only if those parties had previously provided actors & cameras for shooting those said movies

Funny you mention shooting, wasn't there a Fianna Fáil politician (Gary O Flynn) who was sentenced for trying to have a Garda and accountant shot and killed?

PS: Sinn Féin is not a paramilitary organization or the IRA, it is actually the third most popular and fastest growing political party in Ireland, sorry to disappoint you.

stretchdoe · 14-04-2013 8:57pm

That badge is clearly just a thinly-veiled 'I have a job' boast on the part of the Sniper.

Prodigious · 14-04-2013 8:59pm

joe swanson wrote: »

Ive never voted ff/fg funnily enough. Bit ironic an economic student voting sinn fein. My 4 year old niece could come up with better policies. Suppose they dont teach common sense in school.

Ps as for treating people better, pity some of their members they have no thought of the innocent victims of the ira. But we're not allowed talk about that cause its the past.

So that leaves Labour... Or the green party?

joe swanson · 14-04-2013 9:02pm

Prodigious wrote: »

So that leaves Labour... Or the green party?

I have no political allegiance. I will vote for who i think will do the best job. I think labour have moved quite a way from their base and as for the greens.... No thanks

Prodigious · 14-04-2013 9:03pm

joe swanson wrote: »

I have no political allegiance. I will vote for who i think will do the best job. I think labour have moved quite a way from their base and as for the greens.... No thanks

So you've never voted for anyone?

0ph0rce0 · 14-04-2013 9:03pm

joe swanson wrote: »

I have no political allegiance. I will vote for who i think will do the best job. I think labour have moved quite a way from their base and as for the greens.... No thanks

If you thought Sinn Fein would do the best job, would you vote for them?

joe swanson · 14-04-2013 9:05pm

Prodigious wrote: »

So you've never voted for anyone?

I have. For a variety of parties and independents. I just don't blindly follow any one particular party. I dont see anything wrong with it. Anyway, completely off topic

joe swanson · 14-04-2013 9:07pm

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

If you thought Sinn Fein would do the best job, would you vote for them?

No. Simple as. I dont believe they could ever do a good job as it stands. Plus their recent history regarding the killing of innocents does not sit well.

Prodigious · 14-04-2013 9:07pm

joe swanson wrote: »

Ive never voted ff/fg funnily enough. Bit ironic an economic student voting sinn fein. My 4 year old niece could come up with better policies. Suppose they dont teach common sense in school.

Ps as for treating people better, pity some of their members they have no thought of the innocent victims of the ira. But we're not allowed talk about that cause its the past.

....

I have no political allegiance. I will vote for who i think will do the best job. I think labour have moved quite a way from their base and as for the greens.... No thanks

....

I have. For a variety of parties and independents. I just don't blindly follow any one particular party. I dont see anything wrong with it. Anyway, completely off topic

Grand so.

0ph0rce0 · 14-04-2013 9:09pm

joe swanson wrote: »

No. Simple as. I dont believe they could ever do a good job as it stands. Plus their recent history regarding the killing of innocents does not sit well.

So then you are talking out your arse then, you don't vote who you think would be best and are biased to certain parties and candidates

Im not saying they are at all or ever will, it was a hypothetical question.

joe swanson · 14-04-2013 9:13pm

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

So then you are talking out your arse then, you don't vote who you think would be best and are biased to certain parties and candidates

Im not saying they are at all or ever will, it was a hypothetical question.

I admit Im absolutely biased against sinn fein. I make no apologies for this. Some of their actions and behaviour have veen disgraceful. Other than that i keep an open mind on who to vote for. Admittedly , the options are limited at the moment

0ph0rce0 · 14-04-2013 9:14pm

joe swanson wrote: »

I admit Im absolutely biased against sinn fein. I make no apologies for this. Some of their actions and behaviour have veen disgraceful. Other than that i keep an open mind on who to vote for. Admittedly , the options are limited at the moment

Fair Enough

K-9 · 14-04-2013 9:18pm

Mod:

I was going to say cut out the sniping, but errrr, cut out the personal abuse please. last warning.

14-04-2013 9:24pm

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

If you thought Sinn Fein would do the best job, would you vote for them?

I would if their policies were to my liking but the endorsement of these badges is off putting imo. To be a good party you have to benefit the entire population of Ireland as much as possible. Allowing these badges is alienating an entire demographic, like me, born and raised in England to Irish parents. There are many other immigrants that may take offence to this too.