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Saab Ed · 14-04-2013 4:04pm #1

You gotta ask yourself should anybody, who partakes in this carry on, ever be allowed outside again. The embarrassment of these tramps. These are supporters of a mainstream Irish political party

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/old-style-paraphernalia-for-sale-at-sinn-f%C3%A9in-ard-fheis-1.1359926?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Prodigious · 14-04-2013 4:06pm

It's not like it was Gerry Adams going about trying to sell them. It's not Sinn Féin themselves going round selling the items. Just a few people trying to make some money. What harm?

Lelantos · 14-04-2013 4:07pm

Even during her address to the gathering, Toiresa Ferris had to mention she had downloaded that song, got a cheap laugh & a round of applause. Stay classy SF.

Gatling · 14-04-2013 4:09pm

And people are actually voting for these muppets

Peregrine · 14-04-2013 4:10pm

I thought we had gotten to a stage where we don't really take Sinn Fein seriously any more.

Let them at it, only making a fool of themselves.

Images of the recently deceased former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher featured on T-shirts which were for sale at the ard fheis.
The green screen-printed garments cost €10 and had an image of Baroness Thatcher with the words “Tá gráin agam ar Thatcher fós!”, which translates as “I still hate/loathe Thatcher”.

RATM · 14-04-2013 4:11pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

You gotta ask yourself should anybody, who partakes in this carry on, ever be allowed outside again. The embarrassment of these tramps. These are supporters of a mainstream Irish political party

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/old-style-paraphernalia-for-sale-at-sinn-f%C3%A9in-ard-fheis-1.1359926?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

I seem to remember Fianna Fail giving Brian Cowen and Bertie Ahern a standing ovation at their Ard Fheis last year.

I'd find that far more disturbing than anything you've posted here

Prodigious · 14-04-2013 4:12pm

RATM wrote: »

I seem to remember Fianna Fail giving Brian Cowen and Bertie Ahern a standing ovation at their Ard Fheis last year.

I'd find that far more disturbing than anything you've posted here

Lets not forget Míchael Martin's standing ovation for saying "We're sorry" about a hundred times.

Saab Ed · 14-04-2013 4:12pm

Prodigious wrote: »

It's not like it was Gerry Adams going about trying to sell it. Just a few people trying to make some money. What harm?

Oh I know. They certainly know their audience all the same. There's obviously a market for the stuff. Its a very poor reflection on the supporters all the same. Its like sellling KKK shirts in the States. Wouldn't be allowed and neither should this.

schnitzelEater · 14-04-2013 4:14pm

Classy and Sinn Fein in the same sentence?

Maybe they think the proceeds can plug the deficit. Wouldn't be the daftest economic policy to come from that 'political party'.

Prodigious · 14-04-2013 4:14pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

Oh I know. They certainly know their audience all the same. There's obviously a market for the stuff. Its a very poor reflection on the supporters all the same. Its like sellling KKK shirts in the States. Wouldn't be allowed and neither should this.

No, it's completely and utterly different to selling KKK shirts.

Nodin · 14-04-2013 4:14pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

Oh I know. They certainly know their audience all the same. There's obviously a market for the stuff. Its a very poor reflection on the supporters all the same. Its like sellling KKK shirts in the States. Wouldn't be allowed and neither should this.

Why?

Shamozzle · 14-04-2013 4:14pm

Do you even lift?

Saab Ed · 14-04-2013 4:15pm

Prodigious wrote: »

No, it's completely and utterly different to selling KKK shirts.

Celebrating murder, that's why. Fcuking disgusting.

Prodigious · 14-04-2013 4:17pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

Celebrating murder, that's why. Fcuking disgusting.

So the KKK, an anti black movement who tortured and killed thousands of black people based on their skin colour is the equivalent of a group who fought to resist a harsh oppression from a foreign country?

Pawwed Rig · 14-04-2013 4:17pm

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

I thought we had gotten to a stage where we don't really take Sinn Fein seriously any more.

We need to start taking them seriously. They seem to be the only party at the moment providing an alternative to the FF/FG/Labour policies. As people get more and more disillusioned they will turn to SF (frightening as that is).

schnitzelEater · 14-04-2013 4:18pm

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

We need to start taking them seriously. They seem to be the only party at the moment providing an alternative to the FF/FG/Labour policies. As people get more and more disillusioned they will turn to SF (frightening as that is).

What exactly are these 'policies' of which you speak?

Saab Ed · 14-04-2013 4:21pm

Prodigious wrote: »

So the KKK, an anti black movement who tortured and killed thousands of black people based on their skin colour is the equivalent of a group who fought to resist a harsh oppression from a foreign country?

You've missed my point. Its not their policies or motives, its the celebration of killing somone. Sorry but that's just wrong no matter what your political views might be .....

Prodigious · 14-04-2013 4:22pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

You've missed my point. Its not their policies or motives, its the celebration of killing somone. Sorry but that's just wrong no matter what your political views might be .....

Similar to the celebrations of the killing of Bin Laden?

Gatling · 14-04-2013 4:24pm

schnitzelEater wrote: »

What exactly are these 'policies' of which you speak?

Supporting local dealers ohh I mean businesses
No body pays tax ever
big increases for dole scrounging supporters
Big pensions for the lads in Kildare for there services to the country
No more EU money as they found alternative sources

Saab Ed · 14-04-2013 4:27pm

Prodigious wrote: »

Similar to the celebrations of the killing of Bin Laden?

I've never in my life celebrated let alone promoted the fact I'm celebrating someone's death. If people die in war then it happens. Promoting delight in that fact is bizzare behavior in my opinion.

Galwayguy35 · 14-04-2013 4:33pm

schnitzelEater wrote: »

Classy and Sinn Fein in the same sentence?

Maybe they think the proceeds can plug the deficit. Wouldn't be the daftest economic policy to come from that 'political party'.

Maybe get off your high horse and stop looking down on SF and the people (including myself) who vote for them.

cgarrad · 14-04-2013 4:33pm

You know your life has not turned out very well if you vote Sinn Féin.

Zaph · 14-04-2013 4:33pm

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

We need to start taking them seriously. They seem to be the only party at the moment providing an alternative to the FF/FG/Labour policies. As people get more and more disillusioned they will turn to SF (frightening as that is).

In fairness, they need to start taking themselves seriously first. I can't believe that this stuff was on sale without the knowledge of the party higher-ups, and they should have had enough cop-on to stop them being sold. They want people to take them seriously as a genuine alternative to the established parties, but they forget that people have long memories in this country when it comes to politics. There are still people who won't vote for FF or FG, depending on what side of the fence their family was on in the civil war. So reminders like this of Sinn Féin's more recent past aren't going to attract votes from people who didn't agree with the actions of the IRA but who may be wavering due to the lack of any other alternative to FF/FG/Labour.

Nodin · 14-04-2013 4:35pm

Zaph wrote: »

In fairness, they need to start taking themselves seriously first. I can't believe that this stuff was on sale without the knowledge of the party higher-ups, and they should have had enough cop-on to stop them being sold. They want people to take them seriously as a genuine alternative to the established parties, but they forget that people have long memories in this country when it comes to politics. There are still people who won't vote for FF or FG, depending on what side of the fence their family was on in the civil war. So reminders like this of Sinn Féin's more recent past isn't going to attract votes from people who didn't agree with the actions of the IRA but who may be wavering due to the lack of any other alternative to FF/FG/Labour.

...but that would be a bit dishonest. lets face it.

Zaph · 14-04-2013 4:36pm

Nodin wrote: »

...but that would be a bit dishonest. lets face it.

Dishonesty in politics. There's a novel approach...

Nodin · 14-04-2013 4:38pm

Zaph wrote: »

Dishonesty in politics. There's a novel approach...

I know. However the fact is that there was an armed struggle. There's no points hiding the t-shirt and the balaclava under the cushion and pretending it didn't happen.

schnitzelEater · 14-04-2013 4:39pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Maybe get off your high horse and stop looking down on SF and the people (including myself) who vote for them.

Do I detect a bit of an inferiority complex? Who said anything about looking down on these clowns.

I don't blame the people who fall for their lies and non existent solutions. Heh just haven't seen through them yet.

0ph0rce0 · 14-04-2013 4:42pm

If i had of thought of the idea of selling stuff like that to people who will buy it then i'd have been up there like a light.

If i think i can make money i will.

Its a tshirt or a badge, Who gives a ****

Zaph · 14-04-2013 4:45pm

Nodin wrote: »

I know. However the fact is that there was an armed struggle. There's no points hiding the t-shirt and the balaclava under the cushion and pretending it didn't happen.

I agree, and there are a lot of people who will never vote for SF because of it, myself included. However they are now trying to portray themselves as a legitimate mainstream political party that at some stage could be in government, so at what point do they decide to stop with the sniper signs and other stuff to make themselves more attractive to voters outside their normal demographic?

Peregrine · 14-04-2013 4:45pm

Nodin wrote: »

I know. However the fact is that there was an armed struggle. There's no points hiding the t-shirt and the balaclava under the cushion and pretending it didn't happen.

Yes there was but it's over and it's time to leave it behind us. If they want to be a real alternative for FG/Labour/FF, they'd want to stop things like this at their meetings, stop saying ****e like this and say something more than simply the two words "wealth tax" every 10 mins.

Chuck Stone · 14-04-2013 4:46pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

I've never in my life celebrated let alone promoted the fact I'm celebrating someone's death. If people die in war then it happens. Promoting delight in that fact is bizzare behavior in my opinion.

Do you think, just maybe, that if you'd lost a loved one in the twin towers you might have had a wee celebratory drink when Bin Laden was assassinated?

Simple question.

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