Would you consider voting a Majority Fianna fail for the next government?

yermanoffthetv

Anynama141 wrote: »

Why is Gilroy trying to keep the Irish people in the dark about his Sovereign Citizen/Freeman beliefs?

Because its a figment of your imagination. Heres the link again of him dismissing his association http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrcj8hpNS6w&feature=player_embedded

Ill ask again to the posters who are attacking Direct Democracy since they went very quiet the last time I asked, who will you be supporting in the next election and why?

Caribbean Cat

No.because I am bold that way.and I will vote whatever I see fit.

Phoebas

darkhorse wrote: »

Look, suspending payments pending an investigation into the legality of something would not be defaulting, it would be posponing or deferring, ya know, like you can defer payment of property tax for example.
Anyway, when you are the government, you can do anything that is deemed to be for the good of the country, or not. Now, having said that, and just glance at your post above and tell me, did either goverment give the people a choice before they made any of the major changes which affected the population of the country?

'Suspending' bailout loan repayments is most definitely a default. But, I must say I find it amusing that you criticise the current lot for not giving the people a direct say on the bailout and at the same time you excuse DDI for acting in the same manner, even though giving the people a direct say is their main policy plank.

And you failed to answer the question - while they 'suspend' repayments, should they also suspend drawing down and spending bailout loans?

Phoebas

yermanoffthetv wrote: »

Because its a figment of your imagination. Heres the link again of him dismissing his association http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrcj8hpNS6w&feature=player_embedded

You've completely failed to deal with all of the evidence posted here linking Gilroy to the 'freemen' and you blindly accepted his bogus dismissal. Why?

bgrizzley

Phoebas wrote: »

You've completely failed to deal with all of the evidence posted here linking Gilroy to the 'freemen' and you blindly accepted his bogus dismissal. Why?

hmmm, just like youve just dismissed gilroys own words distancing himself from the freemen. if it was kenny denying day was light ye would be out praising his honesty.

Phoebas

bgrizzley wrote: »

hmmm, just like youve just dismissed gilroys own words distancing himself from the freemen.

So you agree with me that yermanoffthetv has completely failed to deal with all of the evidence linking Gilroy to the freemen.

bgrizzley

Phoebas wrote: »

So you agree with me that yermanoffthetv has completely failed to deal with all of the evidence linking Gilroy to the freemen.

evidence, m'lud, what evidence? a couple of youtube videos? when were you called to the bar, my learned friend? (and did you get your round?:pac::pac:)

yermanoffthetv

Phoebas wrote: »

So you agree with me that yermanoffthetv has completely failed to deal with all of the evidence linking Gilroy to the freemen.

As bgrizzly said. A couple of links to YouTube videos and some mad fantasies of freeman/illumanati/lizard people. Conspiracy theory form is that way >>>

now why don't you answer my question and state your political allegiance?

Anynama141

yermanoffthetv wrote: »

Because its a figment of your imagination. Heres the link again of him dismissing his association http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrcj8hpNS6w&feature=player_embedded

Ill ask again to the posters who are attacking Direct Democracy since they went very quiet the last time I asked, who will you be supporting in the next election and why?

It's no figment. We have repeatedly shown examples of his use of Freeman/Sovereign language, Freeman/Sovereign beliefs, and his association with other Freeman/Sovereign organisations and people.

Have you missed all this?

If Bertie Ahern said in an interview that he was completely honest, in spite of a mountain of evidence, would you believe him?

Anynama141

bgrizzley wrote: »

hmmm, just like youve just dismissed gilroys own words distancing himself from the freemen. if it was kenny denying day was light ye would be out praising his honesty.

Well if you can't believe a politician making claims in the face of a mountain of evidence to the contrary, who can you believe?

MilanPan!c

darkhorse wrote: »

What would he be in front of a judge for? No, don't tell me. You predict that he will commit a crime.

Still refuse to answer simple questions about your own posts?

Still try and use your own imagined definitions of words to defend yourself?

Still pretend not to read responses if others to your nonsense?

In other words, a troll.

Phoebas

yermanoffthetv wrote: »

now why don't you answer my question and state your political allegiance?

I don't have any. You?
Why is important anyway?

yermanoffthetv

Anynama141 wrote: »

It's no figment. We have repeatedly shown examples of his use of Freeman/Sovereign language, Freeman/Sovereign beliefs, and his association with other Freeman/Sovereign organisations and people.

Have you missed all this?

If Bertie Ahern said in an interview that he was completely honest, in spite of a mountain of evidence, would you believe him?

You've shown me nothing but a bunch of paranoid gibberish. Taking random observations, coming to absurd conclusions and balling it together is not "evidence".

Ill continue asking till i get an answer which party do you subscribe to?

MilanPan!c

Anynama141 wrote: »

It's no figment. We have repeatedly shown examples of his use of Freeman/Sovereign language, Freeman/Sovereign beliefs, and his association with other Freeman/Sovereign organisations and people.

Have you missed all this?

If Bertie Ahern said in an interview that he was completely honest, in spite of a mountain of evidence, would you believe him?

He brags about his relationship with them on his own site, to this day, and links people to their conspiracy sites.

And that's just the beginning.

MilanPan!c

yermanoffthetv wrote: »

You've shown me nothing but a bunch of paranoid gibberish. Taking random observations, coming to absurd conclusions and balling it together is not "evidence".

Ill continue asking till i get an answer which party do you subscribe to?

Yes, him saying he called freeman to his political stunt is "gibberish".

His pushing a freeman sign on his site, and using their bs arguments is gibberish.

The truth is the evidence is ample and unambiguous. The ONLY people that deny the evidence are his supporters.

Anynama141

yermanoffthetv wrote: »

You've shown me nothing but a bunch of paranoid gibberish. Taking random observations, coming to absurd conclusions and balling it together is not "evidence".

What did you make of the picture posted in this thread where Ben Gilroy TM declined an implied right of access to people?

yermanoffthetv wrote: »

Ill continue asking till i get an answer which party do you subscribe to?

What makes you think I will answer this when you keep ignoring my points?

zenno

Would you consider a majority Fianna Fail for the next Government?

Just kill me now, please, with icing on top.

What is going to happen is the fact that voters will have no-where to go except Sinn Fein or FF so i can realistically see FF in government when the elections come around. So as i said previously, just kill me now.

bgrizzley

Anynama141 wrote: »

Well if you can't believe a politician making claims in the face of a mountain of evidence to the contrary, who can you believe?

lol @ mountain of evidence. any chance yourself and phoebas can be my solicitors when im in the dock for the property tax?

For the record, i think gilroy is as big a liar as kenny. but DDI cant be any worse than FG/FF.

Anynama141

zenno wrote: »

What is going to happen is the fact that voters will have no-where to go except Sinn Fein or FF so i can realistically see FF in government when the elections come around. So as i said previously, just kill me now.
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Or the voters will see that FG and Labour did the only thing they could do to try to recover the damage Fianna Failure did - but you are probably right, the average Irish voter is an idiot. They thought they could vote us out of bankruptcy and seem to be astonished that it didn't work immediately.

MilanPan!c

Anynama141 wrote: »

What did you make of the picture posted in this thread where Ben Gilroy TM declined an implied right of access to people?

What makes you think I will answer this when you keep ignoring my points?

These guys REFUSE to answer any questions but demand endless answers. It's basic trolling.

Darkhorse has dodged a simple question for 24 hours.

Anynama141

bgrizzley wrote: »

For the record, i think gilroy is as big a liar as kenny. but DDI cant be any worse than FG/FF.

Fianna Failure have bankrupted Ireland 3 times, twice since the 70s. The Fine Gals haven't managed it yet.

It's also worth pointing out that the government that set the foundations in the 90s for the boom (that Fianna Failure later turned into a bubble) also featured Labour.

MilanPan!c

bgrizzley wrote: »

lol @ mountain of evidence. any chance yourself and phoebas can be my solicitors when im in the dock for the property tax?

For the record, i think gilroy is as big a liar as kenny. but DDI cant be any worse than FG/FF.

There's ample unambiguous evidence. Like the sign he has posted on his door. And the posts where he admits to calling freeman out to his stunts. And pushing freeman sites on his page. And the nonsense he spouts in his YouTube videos. And the freeman con man whose book he pushes on his website.

And much more.

But sure, he kind of denied it once.

And Nixon wasn't a crook.

bgrizzley

MilanPan!c wrote: »

There's ample unambiguous evidence.

Unambigous? really?

Like the sign he has posted on his door.

who put the sign there?

And the posts where he admits to calling freeman out to his stunts.

posts? on the internet? who wrote those?

And pushing freeman sites on his page.

links to sites, if boards links to a site does that mean we all agree with it?

And the nonsense he spouts in his YouTube videos.

all politicians spout nonsense.

And the freeman con man whose book he pushes on his website.

feck i gave a copy of Mein Kampf to a friend once... verdamt!!!!

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in fairness, you woulnt hang him on it, would you?

yermanoffthetv

MilanPan!c wrote: »

These guys REFUSE to answer any questions but demand endless answers. It's basic trolling.

Darkhorse has dodged a simple question for 24 hours.

A deterrent to debt collectors etc perhaps? Ill advised as it would not hold up in court. As I said before Im not an apologist for Ben Gilroy. Its the concept of direct democracy im interested in.

Ive asked 1 question MilanPan!c not "endless" ones. Which party are you going to vote for? You seem to be the troll, darkhorse answered plenty of your questions but you continue the tirade. Whats your groups solution? You seem well able to sling mud but espouse no group with solutions. Come on now out with it.

Anynama141

bgrizzley wrote: »

Unambigous? really?
who put the sign there?

It's pretty hard to tell if you are serious at this point. Somebody else placing Freeman/Sovereign signs on his door to frame him with his own words used elsewhere?

I think you are taking the p1ss now.

zenno

Anynama141 wrote: »

Or the voters will see that FG and Labour did the only thing they could do to try to recover the damage Fianna Failure did - but you are probably right, the average Irish voter is an idiot. They thought they could vote us out of bankruptcy and seem to be astonished that it didn't work immediately.

Watch this space...I bet my left sock that FF will be voted in again on the up-coming election, as nasty as it seems, but i see it happening. FG will hang on a tight finger-nail vote but FF will be the dinner of the day. I'm voting independent but i can see the FF crowd take the winning table when the time comes because old habits are hard to break and people will be saying as per usual that they can't be any worse than FG & Labour. :eek: as Jim Morrison said...people are strange..so enjoy FF in the next election.

bgrizzley

Anynama141 wrote: »

It's pretty hard to tell if you are serious at this point. Somebody else placing Freeman/Sovereign signs on his door to frame him with his own words used elsewhere?

I think you are taking the p1ss now.

im not taking the p1ss. you guys are treating boards like its a court of law, i'm just pointing out that all this so called "evidence" is weak. (and im on your side, i think hes a feckin freeman!!!!)

mainstream political parties have been know to use far more underhand tactics than that at election time.;)

bgrizzley

zenno wrote: »

Watch this space...I bet my left sock that FF will be voted in again on the up-coming election, as nasty as it seems, but i see it happening. FG will hang on a tight finger-nail vote but FF will be the dinner of the day. I'm voting independent but i can see the FF crowd take the winning table when the time comes because old habits are hard to break and people will be saying as per usual that they can't be any worse than FG & Labour. :eek: as Jim Morrison said...people are strange..so enjoy FF in the next election.

sad to say, i have to agree, and all because FG used too much stick and not enough carrot. i didnt vote for them, but i had high hopes of a change from FF cronyism and perhaps putting the people before their own gain.
i was sorely disappointed...

MilanPan!c

yermanoffthetv wrote: »

A deterrent to debt collectors etc perhaps? Ill advised as it would not hold up in court. As I said before Im not an apologist for Ben Gilroy. Its the concept of direct democracy im interested in.

Ive asked 1 question MilanPan!c not "endless" ones. Which party are you going to vote for? You seem to be the troll, darkhorse answered plenty of your questions but you continue the tirade. Whats your groups solution? You seem well able to sling mud but espouse no group with solutions. Come on now out with it.

He didn't actually.

And in fact he has refused to ask the only one I've asked him repeatedly.

As for my vote, I don't know. I'm not tied to any party.

MilanPan!c

bgrizzley wrote: »

Unambigous? really?
who put the sign there?
posts? on the internet? who wrote those?

links to sites, if boards links to a site does that mean we all agree with it?

all politicians spout nonsense.
feck i gave a copy of Mein Kampf to a friend once... verdamt!!!!

in fairness, you woulnt hang him on it, would you?

He put it there as has a downloadable template in his site so others can make their own freeman signs.

You'd know that if you spent half as much time learning about him as you did defending him.

Typical really, you'd rather reach for a crazy conspiracy then check some basic facts - the perfect Gilroy voter.

And hey, if you actually READ his website you could answer all of these questions of yours and more.

But sure, you won't. You'll just come back and argue about stuff you don't know anything about.