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andyman

deadybai wrote: »

any reports on the Kilkenny players playing today for their colleges?

Carlow had a strong contingent. Richie Doyle the most noteworthy one.

Grats

andyman wrote: »

Carlow had a strong contingent. Richie Doyle the most noteworthy one.

How did.Doyle perform? Obviously Carlow had no player capable of dealing with Lehane. Padraic Gahan M'vat had dealt with Lehane in the WIT v UCC game. WIT would be a better overall team than Carlow I suppose.

randd1

andyman wrote: »

Carlow had a strong contingent. Richie Doyle the most noteworthy one.

Richie Doyle doesn't go to college in Carlow, unless he joined in the last 4 weeks. He was at my works Christmas party, and he was working with us for a couple of months beforehand. Think he left for a bank job, not college.

denishurley

pa Dillon wrote: »

Is it the first time in the history of the gaa championship that a team were beaten twice still won the all Ireland minor hurling championship 2013.

Offaly in 1998

Cork ladies' footballers matched the Waterford minors' feat two weeks later, Kerry had beaten them twice in 2013.

dastardly00

randd1 wrote: »

Richie Doyle doesn't go to college in Carlow, unless he joined in the last 4 weeks. He was at my works Christmas party, and he was working with us for a couple of months beforehand. Think he left for a bank job, not college.

According to his profile on Kilkenny GAA he is a student in IT Carlow

denishurley

Richie Doyle captained IT Carlow from centre-back last night.

randd1

denishurley wrote: »

Richie Doyle captained IT Carlow from centre-back last night.

He must have went back to college so to finish off a semester so, he was definitely working full time in our place until a few weeks ago. Good to see him get a few games all the same.

tbiggertycome

The team I would like to see in Ennis.

Eoin Murphy
Conor Fogarty, Michael Walsh, Jackie,
Paul Murphy, Brian Hogan, Joey Holden,
Michael Rice, Paric Phelan,
Larkin, TJ, Tommy
JJ Farrell, Henry, Colin.

Subs
Herity,
JJ,
Brian Kennedy,
R Doyle,
Padraig Walsh,
Buckley,
Lester,
Richie Hogan,
Taggy,
Wally (if available),
Geoff Brennan,
Liam Ryan,
Joe Brennan,
Kevin Kelly,
Not sure if lads in blue will make it but would like to see them get a crack.


Lads to come back
Mick Fennelly,
Kieran Joyce,
Ger Aylward,

Lads I would have on the fringe
Matt Ruth,
David Langton,
Shane Prendergast,
Mark Kelly,
Tomas Kehoe,
Thomas Breen,
John Power,


Richie Power-don't think he's back on the panel, he definitely wasn't a week ago. He was getting a last chance to impress with a fitness test last weekend, didn't hear how it went, heard he had been working incredibly hard in the gym since November. I hope for his sake he did get back but haven't heard anything on the grapevine.

Even without Richie that still looks like an embarrassment of riches if we can just get one or two of the young lads to complete the step up we will take some stopping.

I think that team for Ennis would have a very good chance of winning.

Grats

Decent team there but I would suggest some changes.

E Murphy
C Fogarty M Walsh Brian Kennedy
Tommy B Hogan P Murphy
P Walsh M Rice
TJ Reid. C Fen Larkin
JJ Farrell M Kelly Henry


Kennedy is a great prospect. Played well in Croke Park last Sat. Would have had more games under his belt but was apparently injured.

No way would I move Tommy out of wing back, at least not until we find a replacement. Perhaps try Holden there and use Tommy as a sub.

Padraig Walsh, captain of UL, is having an outstanding season with his college. He looked the part in midfield last Sat. Taken off as he had played with UL the day before and lined out with them again on Sun.

Mark Kelly is doing grand to date. I'd stick with him and move him out to half forward if necessary.

John Power is recovering from a broken hand. Pity he didn't get to play in Fitzgibbon and Walsh Cup. I'd have no problem starting him if he was fit.

I too heard that Richie Power was on the way back. Hope he does get sorted for his own sake. If he does he'll be some addition.

I'd be tempted to slot Richie Hogan in for Henry but have no idea what state of fitness he's at.

Clare got a trimming from a mostly second string Tipp team last night. They conceded 4 goals but managed to get 3. Apparently Davy trained them hard during the week. Presume he'll ease up this week. They'll most certainly be very focused for our game.

dastardly00

52 minutes gone: Rower 1-6 Kilnadeema 1-6.

Hitchens

AIB Intermediate Final



Rower Inistioge 1-16 Kilnadeema 1-9 (AET)



well done lads

Pang

Great second half of extra time. Terrible first half. So delighted they won and that Paul Sheehan got four points!

Hawk eye used as well!

Great win! Here's to doing well at senior level!

Grats

Congrats to the Rower Inistioge. A beautiful area in Kilkenny and a great win today. Delighted for them and in particular Kieran Joyce who's turned out to be a great leader and hurler. Looking forward to watching him progress further with the county team this year.

randd1

Congrats to the Rower/Inistiogue, well done lads. Great to see them building on the great year they had last year, they should be a good addition to the senior championship this year.

Also great to see another AI title coming back to Kilkenny, that's 19 club AI titles now in total for us across the three grades.

Pudders

Kilkenny had their press day yesterday so a few stories in the indo today:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/hurling/cody-backs-kilkenny-legend-kehers-campaign-to-abandon-use-of-cards-29996990.html

Eddie leading a campaign to revert to the old system of taking names rather than cards. Personally I prefer the cards as it is clearer for the fans albeit I think the refs are a bit card happy these days.

And Brian was very honest about us last year and is really talking us down:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/hurling/cody-backs-kilkenny-legend-kehers-campaign-to-abandon-use-of-cards-29996990.html

And last but not least Tommy on Henry and the pace:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/hurling/walsh-i-never-had-any-doubts-about-return-of-shefflin-29996966.html


You get the feeling that Cody has the team primed for the league. Hope we don't peak too early.

1984baby

This issue with the cards is a joke tbh. I think all the KK team should avoid talking about it in the media. It is much handier to have the card system in place as it is much clearer for the fans.
I wouldn't listen too much to what Eddie Keher has to say anyway - given the way he carries on at matches these days.

pa Dillon

1984baby wrote: »

This issue with the cards is a joke tbh. I think all the KK team should avoid talking about it in the media. It is much handier to have the card system in place as it is much clearer for the fans.
I wouldn't listen too much to what Eddie Keher has to say anyway - given the way he carries on at matches these days.

What way does Eddie Keher carrie on at matches , people forget it was Christy Rings son put this motion forward first through Glen rovers club Cork.

dastardly00

1984baby wrote: »

I wouldn't listen too much to what Eddie Keher has to say anyway - given the way he carries on at matches these days.

Can you elaborate?

Grats

This article appeared in the Irish Examiner on Jan 28th this year. As you will note from it the Rebels were ahead of the rest of the Country, as usual! I listened to Brian Cody's interview. I got the impression that he was in fact more interested in the possibility of the introduction of the black card system into hurling. He mentioned that Eddie Keher's proposal regarding red/yellow cards was worth looking at. Not unsurprisingly anti Cody/KK folk want to read something else into Cody's comments, not for the first time. Cyril Farrell supported Cody when interviewed on radio yesterday. The President Liam O'Neill emphatically contradicted the spin being put on the issue when he was interviewed on RTE y'day afternoon. He welcomed the debate and in fact is calling a meeting to discuss the whole issue in two weeks time. When it was suggested to him that Cody was endorsing Keher's proposal O'Neill said that that wasn't what he picked up from the interview. Nor did any decent hurling people.

As a Kilkenny supporter I have felt very let down by our County Board in relation to their silence on the treatment of our hurlers. It has been going on for too long and got totally out of hand in the last year or so. We all know about the injuries inflicted on some of the players. The treatment of Henry was deplorable last year. We did mange to have the red card rescinded but a lot of other stuff went on in that game that should have been investigated. I appreciate that circumstances resulted in the County Board having to show consideration at the time. They are to be complimented for this. However, six months on we could not start into another campaign without making some kind of reference to how some officials conducted themselves last year. In fact what Cody did say was too mild in my books.


Ex Irish Examiner -
Five years ago, Glen Rovers’ Christy Ring Jnr’s motion received two-third majority support at Cork’s convention, but was ruled out of order at Congress as the original wording was altered.

As 2015 is a playing rules year, Ring Jnr has confirmed he will again be putting forward the motion, having been buoyed by Kilkenny legend Eddie Keher’s support for the eradication of cards from the game.

Keher recently delivered a document to GAA president Liam O’Neill outlining his opposition to the cards system and proposal to return to the pre-1999 mechanism of tickings and sendings off.

Much in line with Keher’s thinking, Ring Jnr believes cards have contributed to bad judgement calls by referees. He is concerned at how some genuine attempts to play the ball have been upgraded as fouls in the rulebook. Where once a mistimed shoulder charge was a technical offence meriting a free puck, it is now deemed rough play.

He argues a free is a greater penalty in hurling than in football — “This is due to the greater scoring range in hurling and a player is less likely to commit a deliberate foul, notwithstanding the card system.”

Ring Jnr doesn’t believe the rules that currently govern the game reflect it. “The skills of football are not penalised. Nobody would penalise you for kicking or catching the ball. The use of the hurley is an art and it comes down to split second timing. Pulling and doubling of the ball is a skill yet it can be considered a yellow card if it’s late and that’s down to the pressure being put on referees.

“The basic skills of the game have been outlawed. In my opinion, cards were the worst thing that came into Gaelic games.”

Ring Jnr also feels cards, particularly yellow, have held up the free-flowing spectacle of hurling. “The situation is being exploited by players falling down and feigning injury as a method to get frees and opponents booked. The phenomenon is even being adopted by certain teams. This was never part of the culture of Gaelic games.”

Grats

Those comments about Keher better be true! Mind you he sounds like most fanatical fans! If it's true!

Charlie69

1984baby wrote: »

Firstly, I'm a fanatic KK supporter - go to all the games.
I had the displeasure of sitting near Eddie at a few games over the years.
His carry on is ridiculous. From the minute the ball is thrown in, he is roaring abuse at the ref, opposing players etc... He started calling a rival female supporter a b***h and c**t after a dispute over a 50/50 decision on the pitch.
Another game he had his grandson, I think, who spent the whole game crying while Eddie went mad for the whole game.
He seems very nice and calm when on the radio or on TV. I've came across him a few times over the years at different functions and found him fine but after the few times I've sat near him at games - I've lost all respect for him.
Not just my opinion by the way, I have heard the same from many other KK supporters over the years

Had the pleasure of sitting behind Eddie at a Leinster Final a couple of years ago and found him to be a pure gentleman to all the KK and Dublin fans around us on that particular day.

1984baby

Grats wrote: »

Those comments about Keher better be true! Mind you he sounds like most fanatical fans! If it's true!

100% true.
They were games against Cork and Tipp - maybe he's calmer against the other teams!!
Couldn't believe it when I turned around and saw that it was him tbh.

Charlie69

1984baby wrote: »

100% true.
They were games against Cork and Tipp - maybe he's calmer against the other teams!!
Couldn't believe it when I turned around and saw that it was him tbh.

Are you sure it was him? Doesn't sound like Eddie Keher to me, he was one of the greatest hurlers of all time who considering the punishment he shipped during an era when there was hardly a whistle never mind a yellow or red card, was always a fair and sporting player who was magnanimous in victory or defeat, so hard to imagine him being anything else off the field.

To be honest IMO to speak of one of our greatest hurlers and one of Kilkenny hurling's finest ambassadors over the years is disrespectful and unnecessary.

randd1

Is it true there was damage done to the Old Stand by the wind today? I haven't been over that side of town so I can't see for myself, so is there any truth to the rumour?

dastardly00

randd1 wrote: »

Is it true there was damage done to the Old Stand by the wind today? I haven't been over that side of town so I can't see for myself, so is there any truth to the rumour?

Yup. From the Kilkenny People:

All roads around Nowlan Park are closed due to wind damage to roof of Nowlan Park.

dastardly00

Charlie69 wrote: »

Are you sure it was him? Doesn't sound like Eddie Keher to me, he was one of the greatest hurlers of all time who considering the punishment he shipped during an era when there was hardly a whistle never mind a yellow or red card, was always a fair and sporting player who was magnanimous in victory or defeat, so hard to imagine him being anything else off the field.

To be honest IMO to speak of one of our greatest hurlers and one of Kilkenny hurling's finest ambassadors over the years is disrespectful and unnecessary.

He's entitled to voice his opinions and experiences though.

EIRE1922

dastardly00 wrote: »

He's entitled to voice his opinions and experiences though.

And nearly slander and libel man too is he allowed?

It is utter rubbish!

I would advise ye to take those comments down!

EIRE1922

Grats wrote: »

Those comments about Keher better be true! Mind you he sounds like most fanatical fans! If it's true!

Utter rubbish!

EIRE1922

pa Dillon wrote: »

I had the pleasure of sitting beside him at u21 all Ireland v Tipperary eoin Kelly was in front of us a lot more tipp fans he was actually having great banter with eoin Kelly about free taking.

That is the true Eddie Keher!

1984baby

dastardly00 wrote: »

Yup. From the Kilkenny People:

Hope they get it fixed up so we can go ahead with our home fixtures in the league.
Although, if they have to close the Old Stand, there should be enough room spectators for all of our home games.