Kilkenny GAA Discussion Thread Mod Warning Post # 5885 #4894 & #5202

zetecescort

this is the team named in todays paper but I'm only following the Cork GAA twitter so I don't know how they lined out or who the Kilkenny scorers are.

Cork 3-17 Kilkenny 3-20 62min

KILKENNY: Eoin Murphy (Glenmore), Shane Prendergast (Clara), Joey Holden (Ballyhale), Kieran Joyce (Rower Inistioge), Padraig Walsh (Tullaroan), Robert Lennon (Bennettsbridge), Diarmuid Cody (James Stephens), TJ. Reid (Ballyhale), Richie Hogan (Danesfort), Matthew Ruth (James Stephens), Colin Fennelly (Ballyhale), Richie Power (Carrickshock), Jonjo Farrell (Thomastown), Kevin Kelly (St. Patricks), Chris Bolger (Clara)

Subs: Richie Reid (Ballyhale), Brian Troy (Emeralds), Conor Ó Shea (Clara), Joe Lyng (Rower Inistioge), Conor Martin (Emeralds), James Meagher (St. Lachtains)

zetecescort

Cork 4-18 KK 3-21 Full time

Figsy32

zetecescort wrote: »

this is the team named in todays paper but I'm only following the Cork GAA twitter so I don't know how they lined out or who the Kilkenny scorers are.

Cork 3-17 Kilkenny 3-20 62min

KILKENNY: Eoin Murphy (Glenmore), Shane Prendergast (Clara), Joey Holden (Ballyhale), Kieran Joyce (Rower Inistioge), Padraig Walsh (Tullaroan), Robert Lennon (Bennettsbridge), Diarmuid Cody (James Stephens), TJ. Reid (Ballyhale), Richie Hogan (Danesfort), Matthew Ruth (James Stephens), Colin Fennelly (Ballyhale), Richie Power (Carrickshock), Jonjo Farrell (Thomastown), Kevin Kelly (St. Patricks), Chris Bolger (Clara)

Subs: Richie Reid (Ballyhale), Brian Troy (Emeralds), Conor Ó Shea (Clara), Joe Lyng (Rower Inistioge), Conor Martin (Emeralds), James Meagher (St. Lachtains)

That's how they lined out alright, all subs got a run.

For my money Holden, Walsh and Kelly were the pick of the Kilkenny lads but it wasn't the most intense or best quality game.

dirkmeister

Absolutely smashing to see Richie Power back starting for Kilkenny.

Kkboy

So I know we are still a long way off the first championship game but the team id like to see against Wexford would be as follows

E Murphy
Holden P Murphy Tyrell
Walsh Joyce. Buckley
. Fogarty Fennelly
Reid Hogan Larkin
C Fennelly. R Power W Walsh

Very tight between John Power and Walter Walsh. Full back line looks a bit dodgy but I think Conor Fogarty if fit will spend a lot of his time covering the back line and we could effectively have a 7 man defense at times. There are decent options on the bench for the forwards and midfield but injuries to the backs could leave us in a bit of trouble.

randd1

Would like to see the following line-up for the Wexford game in June.

E Murphy
P Murphy , J Holden , J Tyrrell
P Walsh , K Joyce , C Buckley
M Fennelly, C Fogarty
TJ Reid, R Hogan, R Power
J Farrell, C Fennelly, E Larkin

Think that would be our strongest lineup this year.

Colin could do a real job on the Wexford FB line with his pace, while his pace would also him to cover the space somewhat that Larkin leaves to drop back a bit. If that wasn't working, we could always swap him with Richie Power, but I would prefer to see two good aerial ball winners in the HF line to lay the ball off to Hogan to pull the strings, and Power is a far better man in the air, and in close control in tight areas, than Colin Fennelly to get the ball to the danger men.

Think the backs would be better off with Holden at FB and Murphy in the corner. Murphy is better there, and we need the cover he provides for the FB. Think we could also do with Joyce dropping a few yards to cover Holden from the front as Fogarty and Fennelly do some amount of covering and mopping up, really tighten the defense.

What I want to see most from this game is a tightening of the defense, and conceding less chances than we did in the league. We know we have the midfield and forwards to beat anyone, but unless we shore up at the back it won't mean as much.

All things being even, we should beat Wexford, but I actually expect this to be a much tighter game than people think, and Wexford do have decent attacking options, so any type of win with a solid defensive performance will do for me, the defense could use it after the league.

savannahkat

Any one here at the minor match who can give us a bit mote detail on the players and how they played. It would appear that Andrew Gaffney was the main scorer by some distance. It is never a good sign of a team when one depends on a single individual for the vast majority of scores.

From the Kilkenny GAA website

Kilkenny 1-18 Wexford 1-17 (After Extra Time)

The Kilkenny Minors survived a real test of character at Innovate Wexford Park on Saturday before seeing off the challenge of Wexford after extra time. This was the Kilkenny side's first outing in the competition and the cold and wet conditions made their first outing that bit more difficult. They faced a strong wind in the first half and seemed to be in a good position when they turned around just 4 points in arrears 0-10 to 0-6 the points coming from John Donnelly (2) and Andrew Gaffney(4). But a goal immediately after the restart for Wexford had the local side 7 points ahead and really threw down the gauntlet to Kilkenny. But they kept in touch mainly from Andrew Gaffney frees but were still 4 points in arrears entering the final 10 minutes. An Andrew Gaffney goal with 8 minutes to go proved crucial and the same player landed a difficult free in injury time to bring the game to extra time. Daniel O Connor was the hero of the extra time segment scoring 3 great points from play. Wexford must be considered most unlucky not to have secured a replay but no doubt they might yet have a say in this competition. Kilkenny have now qualified for the semi-final on the weekend of June 20th.

Kkboy

savannahkat wrote: »

Any one here at the minor match who can give us a bit mote detail on the players and how they played. It would appear that Andrew Gaffney was the main scorer by some distance. It is never a good sign of a team when one depends on a single individual for the vast majority of scores.

From the Kilkenny GAA website

Kilkenny 1-18 Wexford 1-17 (After Extra Time)

The Kilkenny Minors survived a real test of character at Innovate Wexford Park on Saturday before seeing off the challenge of Wexford after extra time. This was the Kilkenny side's first outing in the competition and the cold and wet conditions made their first outing that bit more difficult. They faced a strong wind in the first half and seemed to be in a good position when they turned around just 4 points in arrears 0-10 to 0-6 the points coming from John Donnelly (2) and Andrew Gaffney(4). But a goal immediately after the restart for Wexford had the local side 7 points ahead and really threw down the gauntlet to Kilkenny. But they kept in touch mainly from Andrew Gaffney frees but were still 4 points in arrears entering the final 10 minutes. An Andrew Gaffney goal with 8 minutes to go proved crucial and the same player landed a difficult free in injury time to bring the game to extra time. Daniel O Connor was the hero of the extra time segment scoring 3 great points from play. Wexford must be considered most unlucky not to have secured a replay but no doubt they might yet have a say in this competition. Kilkenny have now qualified for the semi-final on the weekend of June 20th.

Well its better than the first round last year when almost nobody scored at all. Andrew Gaffney takes the frees so you would expect him to be top scorer. Im sure the rest of the forwards will be brought on by yesterdays match. It is interesting that some of the forwards cant get their place on their school team but I suppose that school team was exceptional.

68deville

I'm sure they will have a say in the competition as it unfolds,wexford that is,
Dubious calls today from the ref

savannahkat

68deville wrote: »

I'm sure they will have a say in the competition as it unfolds,wexford that is,
Dubious calls today from the ref

Sounds a little bit like sour grapes here.

bruschi

savannahkat wrote: »

Sounds a little bit like sour grapes here.

what did you think of the refs performance so?

Was a good solid game for both sides, and I wouldnt be surprised to see this as a rematch for the final. I'd also expect Kilkenny to improve in the meantime but I dont think Wexford have as much scope for improvement. Was a tough loss given how it came about, but there was little between the sides and was a good game to have before the long break (provided Wexford can overcome Westmeath and not have a longer break)

Speak Now

bruschi wrote: »

what did you think of the refs performance so?

Was a good solid game for both sides, and I wouldnt be surprised to see this as a rematch for the final. I'd also expect Kilkenny to improve in the meantime but I dont think Wexford have as much scope for improvement. Was a tough loss given how it came about, but there was little between the sides and was a good game to have before the long break (provided Wexford can overcome Westmeath and not have a longer break)

Can they meet again in the semi's? I assume if Wexford beat Westmeath they wont automatically play Dublin?

savannahkat

bruschi wrote: »

what did you think of the refs performance so?

Was a good solid game for both sides, and I wouldnt be surprised to see this as a rematch for the final. I'd also expect Kilkenny to improve in the meantime but I dont think Wexford have as much scope for improvement. Was a tough loss given how it came about, but there was little between the sides and was a good game to have before the long break (provided Wexford can overcome Westmeath and not have a longer break)

I was not at the game so I don't have an opinion. I only said the comment sounded like sour grapes as the writer did not elaborate on the why. Your comments though with a bit more meat on the bones is not to far off being sour grapes either. Funny how none of the national papers reported it as you both saw it.

thinkstoomuch1

savannahkat wrote: »

I was not at the game so I don't have an opinion. I only said the comment sounded like sour grapes as the writer did not elaborate on the why. Your comments though with a bit more meat on the bones is not to far off being sour grapes either. Funny how none of the national papers reported it as you both saw it.

How can you not have an opinion when you clearly do have one

Just cause national paper's do or don't report something doesn't mean it's accurate
I was at a minor game before, an was an incident between cork and clare, cork were wrong and none papers mentioned it

Kenajonn

I was at the game and the incedent that the poster is probably refering to was the free given to Kilkenny at the end of the match, just before the free was given Wexford should have had a free. This free was the last play and was the point that sent the game into extra time. Wexford lost the match on the sideline their free taker did not have the strength to put over sixty fives and should have been changed.

bruschi

savannahkat wrote: »

I was not at the game so I don't have an opinion. I only said the comment sounded like sour grapes as the writer did not elaborate on the why. Your comments though with a bit more meat on the bones is not to far off being sour grapes either. Funny how none of the national papers reported it as you both saw it.

good point. you might enlighten me as to what part of my post is sour grapes so I dont offend you in future.

bruschi

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Can they meet again in the semi's? I assume if Wexford beat Westmeath they wont automatically play Dublin?

I had thought that once the quarter finals at this stage were played, that the losers go to the other side of the draw, ie Wexford go to the Dublin side and Offaly go to the Kilkenny side. I think that if teams have played already, then its a draw for the fixtures, just with Dublin and Kilkenny kept apart. It can get confusing when they change it and then when the minor football has a completely different set up and I mix them up.

I'd fancy Laois to take Offaly to be honest, having seen both within a week or so play Wexford, Laois looked an awful lot better than Offaly did, but granted one was a leinster league game, and the other being championship.

brookville

Anyone any idea how the senior panel are getting one?intresting to see the panel that played cork with a few u 21 players getting a run so a very much open panel,anymore challenge games coming up or how are michael rice or conor fogarty progressing?is it only one more round of club games before the first round?

Kilkennyfella

brookville wrote: »

Anyone any idea how the senior panel are getting one?intresting to see the panel that played cork with a few u 21 players getting a run so a very much open panel,anymore challenge games coming up or how are michael rice or conor fogarty progressing?is it only one more round of club games before the first round?

Club games next weekend alright. I see Tipp dropped 6 from the panel, any news of the same from Kilkenny?

Deise_2012

Kilkennyfella wrote: »

Club games next weekend alright. I see Tipp dropped 6 from the panel, any news of the same from Kilkenny?

Any idea who was dropped ?

Realt Dearg Sec

Deise_2012 wrote: »

Any idea who was dropped ?

Paul Curran anyway. Bourke too I think.

savannahkat

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Paul Curran anyway. Bourke too I think.

Irish Examiner
Other fringe players such as Tom Stapleton, Shane Bourke, David Butler, Micheal Butler, Bill Maher, Sean Maher, Stephen Maher, Joe O’Dwyer and Liam Treacy are omitted from this latest selection

dastardly00

Henry has joined The Sunday Game Panel.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/2015/0430/697886-henry-shefflin-sunday-game/

tbiggertycome

The players I heard of that have been dropped from Kilkenny panel are Geoff Brennan, Steve Staunton, Padraig Gahan, ? Malone from Mullinavat, Tomas Keogh, Willie Phelan. The lads are supposed to be trainin very well when their together. I've heard Conor Fogarty is just back training and I think Michael Rice is training but not hurling yet. From what I've heard over the last few weeks lads like, Conor O'Shea-Clara, Conor Martin & Brian Troy-Emeralds, Diarmuid Cody-James Stephens, Robert Lennon-Bennettsbridge, Evan Cody-Dicksboro have been called in to the panel. I saw John Power on High Street today and he was limping hopefully it's not serious he didn't have a cast or crutch.

Realt Dearg Sec

Michael Rice coming back would be fantastic, there's few players could say they've lost out like he has the last few years, and fewer you could say the team has missed like him. Would love to see him on the field again.

brookville

Slightly off topic just wondering what kind of u 21 team we have this year?with the club scene strong and two successful minor teams the foundations are in place.last year minor hero john walsh will be a loss but with some of the u21 panel training with the seniors it should be a help but we're away to dublin first so it will be tough in a knockout game.im not so sure we're blessed with fowards and probably leaving out players but I'd expect darren brennan in goal,I'd expect brian troy,evan coady,conor delaney ,d cody, enda morrissey,robbie fitz,jason cleere,jason stanley and probably a few others I'm forgetting,midfield probably, luke scanlon,james meager, willie brennan,mark mansfield,paddy deegan,fowards sean morrissey,conor martin, darragh holahan,alan murphy, ciaran ryan,liam blanchfield,chris bolder, kevin farrell is there any standout players I'm forgetting?

savannahkat

What is the nature of John Walsh' injury/illness. Is a permanent or temporary?

brookville

Think it was cruciate but his definitely out for the year,I think jack langton underage and kevin kenny Is a good hurler is underage

Scaldy Ned

Hello from The Deise KK .....What do you think of this Waterford team ?...Are we a serious contender ...maybe next year ?
Much as i hate to admit it KK are the Barcelona, Real Madrid , Chelsea of Hurling....we all know that .Kudos.......but because of that i'm interested to hear honest objective thoughts on this new Waterford team from people who know what they're looking at......An AI winning team next year maybe ?......Opinions please

evolving tipperary

Be two years before ye make semis or final - clare, limerick, tipp, dublin, kk all further ahead - the league is the league - three years before Waterford will be serious contenders to win the all-ireland but i think kevin moran and brick might have shoved on...

Waterford have shown their hand for this year...