Ashes 2013 - see mod warning in post 689

KevIRL · 26-01-2014 11:42am

Close finish on the cards here, Aussies need to get Bopara though

Beasty · 26-01-2014 11:54am

Bopara must be one of the most frustrating players out there. Clearly has the ability, but his temperament lets him down. Hopefully he'll now prove me wrong ....

KevIRL · 26-01-2014 12:01pm

KevIRL wrote: »

Close finish on the cards here, Aussies need to get Bopara though

And they have, so tight but looked out to me. Wow

Beasty · 26-01-2014 12:01pm

So is it the spikes or sole that needs to be in contact? .... if the former that didn't look out

KevIRL · 26-01-2014 12:09pm

Oh England, some team to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

djimi · 26-01-2014 12:13pm

Beasty wrote: »

So is it the spikes or sole that needs to be in contact? .... if the former that didn't look out

Any part of the boot I think, but to be honest from the back angle it looked out either way. Only question was whether the bail lodged back in the groove before falling (if it did then I think it only counts from that point).

Dozen Wicked Words · 26-01-2014 12:19pm

Glad Australia won, England winning the last couple of games would have given them some kind of credit on this tour they really don't deserve. They were embarrassing.

booth70 · 26-01-2014 12:56pm

If the last few one dayers in Australia and New Zealand are anything to go by we are in for one hell of a World cup down under next year:)

Dozen Wicked Words · 29-01-2014 8:55am

England Women have finished off the job and retained the women's ashes, the Test win at the start was massive. 2 games left are dead rubbers now.

Dozen Wicked Words · 31-01-2014 2:33pm

How in gods name does Dernbach keep getting a game. He is just a total pie chucker with terrible attitude. So many more promising players than him they could pick.

Gillespy · 31-01-2014 5:36pm

He is obsessed with variations which you would have to believe is the role he is told to do. He has 90mph balls too but they never come out.

djimi · 31-01-2014 7:22pm

Is this series still going on?!! I had forgotten about the T20s.

KevIRL · 31-01-2014 8:24pm

djimi wrote: »

Is this series still going on?!! I had forgotten about the T20s.

1 last T20 left to play on Sunday, naturally that series has already been wrapped up by the Aussies 2-0 up as things stand. 11-1 overall to the Aussies over the entire tour :pac:

Dozen Wicked Words · 31-01-2014 8:56pm

Northants Steelback Cameron White doing a good bit of damage for Australia again. Hopefully he is back this year with the defending t20 Champions!

kryogen · 01-02-2014 1:24am

Fantastic batting today by Bailey, a Test batsman he may not be, but he is one hell of a smasher!

Another game another win, shame this Ashes summer has to end.

Flower stepped down as director too

Dozen Wicked Words · 02-02-2014 1:18pm

Annihilation for England in last t20, If Giles gets the job it's not based on results.

Oh and Dernbach went for nearly 13 runs an over in his 11 overs. Bravo.

djimi · 02-02-2014 2:23pm

England need a death bowler; someone who can chuck in proper yorkers at the death (think Darren Gough in his prime).

If Dernbach was half as good as he thinks he is then he would be a good option, but he is not consistent enough at all. Someone said a while back that his biggest problem is that he doesnt have a stock ball, and they were right. The variations are all well and good, but they are not variations from anything. If he could stick down a lethal yorker 3-4 balls out of 6 and mix it up for the others then he would be a lot better off.

Id say the players are just glad to have this tour over with. Whoever takes over the reigns is going to have one hell of a job on their hands picking the side up after this winter; its been one of the worst tours I can remember seeing England have. The signs were there before the winter that it was starting to get a bit shakey, but Australia have well and truely taken a sledge hammer to everything England have built over the last decade. This is going to take a real period of rebuilding to get this side back on the rails again.

Dozen Wicked Words · 02-02-2014 3:27pm

djimi wrote: »

England need a death bowler; someone who can chuck in proper yorkers at the death (think Darren Gough in his prime).

If Dernbach was half as good as he thinks he is then he would be a good option, but he is not consistent enough at all. Someone said a while back that his biggest problem is that he doesnt have a stock ball, and they were right. The variations are all well and good, but they are not variations from anything. If he could stick down a lethal yorker 3-4 balls out of 6 and mix it up for the others then he would be a lot better off.

Id say the players are just glad to have this tour over with. Whoever takes over the reigns is going to have one hell of a job on their hands picking the side up after this winter; its been one of the worst tours I can remember seeing England have. The signs were there before the winter that it was starting to get a bit shakey, but Australia have well and truely taken a sledge hammer to everything England have built over the last decade. This is going to take a real period of rebuilding to get this side back on the rails again.

Great quote from Ronay about Dernbach in the Guardian, in the same article he also suggests Morgan should be Captain of the one day team:

Dernbach's three games here have yielded 1-141 off eleven overs. It is often pointed out that he bowls at the most frantic times. And this is true: he bowls when Jade Dernbach is bowling.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/feb/02/australia-england-t20?CMP=twt_gu

crackit · 02-02-2014 4:06pm

Morgans refusal to walk when he's been caught is an embarrasment. People can jump to his defence and say he doesn't have to walk but he's like a little child who doesn't want to accept that he's out.

djimi · 02-02-2014 4:23pm

crackit wrote: »

Morgans refusal to walk when he's been caught is an embarrasment. People can jump to his defence and say he doesn't have to walk but he's like a little child who doesn't want to accept that he's out.

I would have had that one reviewed also; it was far from clear whether it had carried.

crackit · 02-02-2014 4:49pm

Had it reviewed? You do realise there are no reviews in T20?

It was a clear catch and yet again he showed no class and wouldn't walk off.

djimi · 02-02-2014 5:06pm

crackit wrote: »

Had it reviewed? You do realise there are no reviews in T20?

It was a clear catch and yet again he showed no class and wouldn't walk off.

It wasnt a clear catch though, was it? If it was then the umpires wouldnt have bothered asking the third umpire.

And there has never been an issue with asking an umpire to have a second look at a catch like that. The umpires are free to tell the batsman to go do one if they so choose; the fact that they didnt suggests that they werent sure themselves, and if they are not sure then they absolutely should be going to the third umpire.

Was it you that had an issue with Morgan complaining about the illegal field in the ODI? You seem to have this notion that an umpire cannot make their own call to double check a decision and also that batsmen have no right to converse with the umpire, and honestly I have no idea where you get this idea from. The DRS system means that the batsman/bowler can force a manditory review. Im not aware of anything that says that outside of this system a batsman is not entitled to ask the question of an umpire as to whether or not a ball carried etc?

Ashes 2013 - see mod warning in post 689

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