I found a Safe.

Son0vagun

Apon clearing out my shed in my newly purchased house/property I found a safe. It's a floor safe and incased in concrete. It's opened by a key, which I do not have. Written on the safe door is the details of the locksmith who installed it. The previous owner is deceased, so I don't know who else knows about it.

So I want to open it. But I can't decide what to do.

Easy option is to ring the locksmith and have him open it. But what about the contents of the safe? I doubt there's anything valuable in it, but there could be. The locksmith might notify the previous owners family. Or am I now the legal owner of whatever the safe contains?

I could hire a criminal to open it, but he'd want his share and probably murder me if it contained anything substantial.

Or inorder to have complete secrecy I could dig the it out, it would be a hard job. Chisel and hammer, it would take ages. And then use a angle grinder to open It, but the sparks might burn whatever is contained.

So what would you do? Any advice?

My name is URL

You don't need to call the locksmith that installed it.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

Thermite

Or coke and mentos.

Hunter Mahan

I doubt you need to dig it out, post a picture of the top of it and someone will let you know how to do it.

LiamMc

You should be entitled to legally have the safe opened as you own the property around the safe.

So I would success contacting the safe-maker or their own next-of-kin to help in opening the safe.

The ownership and property of the contents would depend on what is actual inside? I would suggest legal documents including deeds, mortgages, wills, motor registrations aren't automatically yours.

sfwcork

Thinly veiled "i have money for a new house" thread

Conmaicne Mara

Son0vagun wrote: »

inorder to have complete secrecy

I think we're past that point...

Mr. Incognito

Call me if it contains my wife's sex drive.

The Barefoot Pizza Thief

Well, don't call Michael Caine anyway. Throw it off a walkover around 4am when nobodies about.

Son0vagun

I'm on my phone so don't know how to post a picture of it.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

You could always drill the locking mechanisim

Fannyhead

Post a pic of it.

Seachmall

Depending on the age of the safe you could probably open it yourself.

But if it contains angered souls you may not want to. Unless you can train them, is that even possible? Can ghosts be trained? I used to think my dog couldn't be trained but now he barks on command! I love my dog. I wish I had a ghost that barked on command though! That'd be cool. Unlikely though. Maybe you could teach them to fly in circles or something. I wonder what they're like. They could be really angry about being locked in a safe. Or maybe they'd like you for letting them out. It would be mean to leave them in there and if they're from really long ago they could have cool stories. Man, I wish I had a safe.

Peregrine

How to Open a Safe Without a Key

If you lost the key to your safe, there's still hope.
Many people use safes to keep their possessions protected against thieves or fires. Understandably, there may be nothing more frustrating than losing the key to your safe. However, you can open your safe without the key. You just have to be a little crafty and willing to use some "elbow grease" to get it open.
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Things You'll Need:
Table
Screwdriver
Paper clip
Tweezers

Instructions
1
Move the safe to a table under good lighting so you can work on the lock more easily.

2
Use the tip of a small flathead screwdriver to insert where the key would go. Turn until the lock disengages.

3
Bend a paper clip until straight if the screwdriver did not work. Insert one end of the paper clip into the upper part of the keyhole. Hold it in place.

4
Insert your tweezers beneath the paper clip. Turn the tweezers until both paper clip and tweezers slip deeper into the lock, engaging the inner chamber. This may make a noise or feel like a solid shift.

5
Turn the tweezers and the paper clip counter-clockwise at the exact same time. Continue to turn until the lock disengages and pops open. Avoid locking the safe until you can find the key.

eHow. I think you can skip the table part.
If it doesn't work, resort to coke and mentos like previsouly suggested.

Jazzmaster

Chisel and hammer,

Hire a kango. We be past that stone age s**t....

Redisle

I wouldn't go digging it up or anything. Try getting it opened professionally and maybe getting a new key made for it. Could be a very useful thing to have yourself assuming it's a decent enough safe and hasn't suffered water ingress.

As for any possible contents.. guess you have to wait and see. I doubt the Locksmith would be obliged to notify anyone but if it was anything of non monetary value to the old owners family...

Tombi!

Can you not take a photo with your phone and upload it to imgur.com or http://imageshack.us/?

kingcobra

I'll sort you out with the right locksmith and we can split the share then?

Rastadoyle

beter safe than sorry

looksee

Didn't we have this thread before a year or so ago?

Hunter Mahan

Son0vagun wrote: »

I'm on my phone so don't know how to post a picture of it.

You could try using the camera function on your phone?

Seachmall

looksee wrote: »

Didn't we have this thread before a year or so ago?

I dunno, go have a looksee.

Thud

Doubt there is anything too complex about the locking mechanism in an old floor safe usually just a chubb style lock encased in steel, would guesstimate that you should be able to drill the lock

Archeron

Did you like it?
Did it taste like cherry chapstick?

looksee

Seachmall wrote: »

I dunno, go have a looksee.

arft arft, I can tell you from last time, there is nothing in it.

looksee

There you go:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=69847581

Son0vagun

A picture of it

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/1408/imagecqo.jpg

Seachmall

looksee wrote: »

There you go:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=69847581

I'll have a quick looksee.

My name is URL

Thud wrote: »

Doubt there is anything too complex about the locking mechanism in an old floor safe usually just a chubb style lock encased in steel, would guesstimate that you should be able to drill the lock

The safe itself could be worth a few quid. A decent locksmith would have it open in no time and without damaging it.

http://www.hamillandson.com/#!vstc0=services

EoghanIRL

Son0vagun wrote: »

A picture of it

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/1408/imagecqo.jpg

I think that once you legally own the property then you own the safe aswell .

scudzilla

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Call me if it contains my wife's sex drive.

she still had it the other night

Son0vagun

The previous owner died unexpectedly at a young age. It is possible it contains something of value, but chances are it does not.

How much would a lock smith cost?

mark renton

Son0vagun wrote: »

A picture of it

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/1408/imagecqo.jpg

ffs its rotten with rust, smack of a shovel will open it

Seachmall

Son0vagun wrote: »

How much would a lock smith cost?

Depends on what's required to get into the safe and how long, there could also be a callout fee.

EoghanIRL

Son0vagun wrote: »

The previous owner died unexpectedly at a young age. It is possible it contains something of value, but chances are it does not.

How much would a lock smith cost?

Do many people in Ireland keep safes ?

Son0vagun

mark renton wrote: »

ffs its rotten with rust, smack of a shovel will open it

No it's not. It still has a coating of oil on it. It's well preserved.

looksee

We'll ignore the fact that this one is square, and red, and completely different to the other one.

ToddyDoody

I plan to invent something called a dangerous and it'll find me.

Merch

Redisle wrote: »

I wouldn't go digging it up or anything. Try getting it opened professionally and maybe getting a new key made for it. Could be a very useful thing to have yourself assuming it's a decent enough safe and hasn't suffered water ingress.

As for any possible contents.. guess you have to wait and see. I doubt the Locksmith would be obliged to notify anyone but if it was anything of non monetary value to the old owners family...

Id say they are under no obligation to tell the locksmith anything other than, they dont have the key, and then ask,
can they open it?, how much? will they be able to replace the lock? how much?
when the locksmith gets through the lock, the locksmith wouldn't have any right to open it or examine the contents.

You could remove contents OP and let them work away,

unless of course you find something creepy like a monkey hand with a pointing finger??? and let a scream like you weren't expecting that, then they'll be on to you.

Or if its valuables, and the locksmith sees it, then they'll be onto you, and you WILL have to dispose of them!

BorneTobyWilde

Its got a handle
Did anyone notice lol
You might want to lift it out of there
Get better look at it
Shake it,
The safe

Antar Bolaeisk

EoghanIRL wrote: »

I think that once you legally own the property then you own the safe aswell .

Does not everything below ground level belong to the government? I don't know if that includes stuff enclosed by your foundations.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

Does not everything below ground level belong to the government? I don't know if that includes stuff enclosed by your foundations.

:eek: All the dead people/

Merch

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

Does not everything below ground level belong to the government? I don't know if that includes stuff enclosed by your foundations.

I think thats mineral rights, like if you strike gold or oil

not a biscuit tin

ArtyM

Have you tried urinating on it?
I think thats what you are supposed to do in situations like this.
or is that Jellyfish stings
or sprained ankles
I not 100% sure, I get mixed up sometimes.
Best to go ahead and do the urination thing, just in case.

Happyman42

Merch wrote: »

I think thats mineral rights, like if you strike gold or oil

not a biscuit tin

Hob Nobs, they want the Hob Nobs!

SimonLynch

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

Does not everything below ground level belong to the government? I don't know if that includes stuff enclosed by your foundations.

Everything below ground level belongs to the rats, same as the rest of the country, our rats are a particular breed that don't flee a sinking ship for the most part, the ones that do are known as Ratticus Bostonicus, hic.

Boscoirl

Praetorian Saighdiuir wrote: »

:eek: All the dead people/

Who do you think votes for them?

OP, tie a chain to the safe and then the other end to the rear axle of your car, that always works in the movies, never seen it fail

ArtyM

ArtyM wrote: »

Have you tried urinating on it?
I think thats what you are supposed to do in situations like this.
or is that Jellyfish stings
or sprained ankles
I not 100% sure, I get mixed up sometimes.
Best to go ahead and do the urination thing, just in case.

Remind me never to sprain my ankle around you.

JazzyJ

Burn it.

With fire.

danslevent

Just pretend to the lock smith you lost the keys, they ddon't need to know the whole story.

You have to tell us what is in it, hope it's something good!:D

Son0vagun

Read quotes of €200-€300 for a locksmith on that other thread. I can't afford that. So it's looking like the mentos or burning it, with fire are my only options.