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Canada IEC 2013 Health Insurance

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭lovemytea


    http://www.go4less.ie/insurance/index_canada.asp

    I've just checked, they gave me a quote two years €340 (incl w/sports)

    Maybe try it again, or maybe it is the link you are using? Try the one above?

    (also, what i've gathered from others on the forum, is that backpackers allows 1 trip home of 14 days duration to Ireland over the 2 years
    however, goforless allows 2 trips home of 14days duration each.) otherwise the policy becomes invalid


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 PollyMe


    Hey,

    Does anyone know what insurance company to go with? I'm currently on my first year visa in Canada which expires in August and need to renew my insurance for the next two years. I asked go4less but they said they they can only do insurance for a total of 2 years ( I already booked my first year through them) and other insurance companys seem to be only for people who haven't left Ireland yet. We already booked flights home in Feb for just over 3 weeks as well, and most insurance companys will only cover you if you leave for 2 weeks!!! This is stressing me out and I thought applying for the visa was stressful!

    Any help will be much appreciated

    Thanks smile.png


  • Registered Users Posts: 793 ✭✭✭vicecreamsundae


    does anyone know if there is an 2 year insurance policy out there that doesn't have the residency condition? I actually am resident in Ireland and have been for three months since I came home from Korea but all the policies I've seen say I need to have been here for six months. Such a pain in the ass if I have to stay here til mid September just because of this silly rule :( Are insurance companies ever lenient about this kind of thing?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 793 ✭✭✭vicecreamsundae


    Actually have just answered my own question.... With Backpackers, you only have to be resident in Ireland fr three months. Phew! well, i shall have to go with that so!


  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭Cream Bun


    Hi,
    Im about to purchase my travel insurance for the 2 year IEC Visa with go4less, but when i put my return date as 2 years, its saying my return date is too long so looks like i can only get a years insurance from them. Do we really have to have the 2 years insurance for the IEC?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭Cream Bun


    Does anyone know is skiiing and snowboarding included as standard in the go4less 2 year Canada insurance? I looked at the list of what is automatically included and cant see skiiing. It doesnt seem to be on the other extra activities either?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 jillybear


    Hi,I've been speaking to someone in the irish canadian immigration centre in toronto about insurance. She was adamant that I need to get both travel insurance AND health insurance and that it was clear on the IEC website. Now nothing is clear to me on the IEC website and neither are their responses.
    IEC website: "What type of insurance must I subscribe to before leaving for Canada?

    You must have and maintain insurance for the entire duration of your stay in Canada. Your insurance policy must cover you for:

    Health care, hospitalization and repatriation;
    The Canadian territory (the policy should specify North America, Canada/USA or worldwide);
    The entire duration of your stay in Canada
    You must be able to provide proof of this insurance to the Immigration Officer upon your entry to Canada."


    My question is: is health care not covered by travel insurance? Or do I actually need health insurance too? And I have to organise it from Ireland?
    On other sites it explains I need to get health care insurance for the 3 months for the public health insurance to kick in / while I am not covered by this.

    *confused and without money to waste*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭lovemytea


    jillybear wrote: »
    Hi,I've been speaking to someone in the irish canadian immigration centre in toronto about insurance. She was adamant that I need to get both travel insurance AND health insurance and that it was clear on the IEC website. Now nothing is clear to me on the IEC website and neither are their responses.
    IEC website: "What type of insurance must I subscribe to before leaving for Canada?

    You must have and maintain insurance for the entire duration of your stay in Canada. Your insurance policy must cover you for:

    Health care, hospitalization and repatriation;
    The Canadian territory (the policy should specify North America, Canada/USA or worldwide);
    The entire duration of your stay in Canada
    You must be able to provide proof of this insurance to the Immigration Officer upon your entry to Canada."


    My question is: is health care not covered by travel insurance? Or do I actually need health insurance too? And I have to organise it from Ireland?
    On other sites it explains I need to get health care insurance for the 3 months for the public health insurance to kick in / while I am not covered by this.

    *confused and without money to waste*


    I just got the travel insurance (backpackers). The policy covers repatriation, emergency medical expenses/admittance to hospital, emergency dental treatment..

    I assume that this is enough, it means you have to pay for general medical expenses/dental etc. That's all I have anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 jillybear


    Hi lovely tea!

    yes, I spoke with backpackers and they said they comply with the canadian visa / working holiday regulations. So I will just go with that.

    I also rang RSA in canada re a private health insurance they advertised as health insurance for visitors to canada, which was only emergency too, more expensive and covered only to 10k, whereas backpackers is to 3million! I know which I'd prefer.
    IEC got back to me and said it is clear on their website, that I should have insurance covering Health care, hospitalization and repatriation;
    I replied it's not clear or directors wouldn't be telling me to fork out for private health as well as travel.

    thanks for the reply! I was going mad :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭lovemytea


    You're welcome! :)

    i got backpackers with "go4less", they allow a total of 4 visits home of 2 weeks duration on the policy, but backpackers with "backpackers travel" only allowed 1 week home of 7 days. Otherwise the policy becomes invalid! :/

    so just check the policy before you buy!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3 jillybear


    hi! ohhh.. I don't know which I got, so prolly the one without much holiday :/ i checked the policy, but not enough ..was it more expensive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭lovemytea


    only about 20-30 in difference, I think. Goforless was 340 incl w/sports. cant remember what backpackers was, it was cheaper, but not by much.

    ah well, check the policy documents just to see what you are entitled to anyway. sure if it's a problem and you think you will be home more than they allow, cancel. There should be a cooling off period? Think I had a week or 2 with mine.


    (oh yeah, I think backpackers allow 1 period home of 14 days over 2 years...I said 7 days in a dif post :/ )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    So is go4less the best option to go with?

    I was in USIT today and you can't get the policy on its own, you have to buy something, like a flight or a sim card, that bumped the price up and I didn't have the money on me to pay that.

    Went with go4less in the end, only thing that has taken me by surprise is the winter sports cover is for max 31 days, I had planned on doing a ski season maybe while in Vancouver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 davybrown


    Can residents of Northern Ireland apply for go4less backpacker insurance? It says you need to be a resident in Ireland for 6 months. If not, what have Northerners been going with?? Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 davybrown


    another wee post here sorry.

    has anyone ever used the insurance company "essentialtravel.co.uk"

    just wondering if its any use


  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭RootsCanada


    Can anyone find a company that gives 24 months insurance?
    I've looked at backpacker and ace, but when I go to pay it, it's saying 366 days is the limit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 TJMC


    Hey,

    Does anyone know of anyone who has actually gone over with the 2 year go4less insurance yet? Any problems getting in or anything?

    Thanks :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Missy1989


    Hi all,
    Will the following insurance cover me entering Canada for the 2 year IEC Visa, I have to stay with VHI I just hope this insurance will cover me.
    https://www.vhi.ie/international/index.jsp
    Will i also have to get backpackers insurance along with Vhi International Health Insurance.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭lovemytea


    TJMC wrote: »
    Hey,

    Does anyone know of anyone who has actually gone over with the 2 year go4less insurance yet? Any problems getting in or anything?

    Thanks :)


    I got the goforless insurance. Wasn't asked for proof, but it has everything needed by IEC anyway so there shouldn't be any problems


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭lovemytea


    Can anyone find a company that gives 24 months insurance?
    I've looked at backpacker and ace, but when I go to pay it, it's saying 366 days is the limit.

    goforless have 24 months insurance for canada. that's what I have.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭lovemytea


    Missy1989 wrote: »
    Hi all,
    Will the following insurance cover me entering Canada for the 2 year IEC Visa, I have to stay with VHI I just hope this insurance will cover me.
    https://www.vhi.ie/international/index.jsp
    Will i also have to get backpackers insurance along with Vhi International Health Insurance.

    Thanks


    to be honest I'd say that VHI is a much better than backpackers, not sure how you prove you have it for 24 months though. If you contacted them (VHI) would they be able to give you some sort of a letter to say how long you are covered and that it can be renewed or something like that? Or if they comply with IEC working holiday regulations...? :/

    I think it would be fine though. I wasn't asked for proof of funds or insurance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 TJMC


    lovemytea wrote: »
    I got the goforless insurance. Wasn't asked for proof, but it has everything needed by IEC anyway so there shouldn't be any problems

    Cool, thanks a mil!

    I was just worried because it says they want health insurance and Go4Less is technically travel insurance, but I think i'll just go for it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭lovemytea


    yeah the go4less covers basic health like emergencies and repatriation, as well as the travel. That's all IEC require.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 smr07


    Has anyone gone with STA travel insurance?

    Cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 skbehan


    Hey guys I'm in Canada on a one year visa - about to renew for another two :D But I'm having trouble finding an insurance company that will cover me for a full two years! Any suggestions?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 PollyMe


    skbehan wrote: »
    Hey guys I'm in Canada on a one year visa - about to renew for another two :D But I'm having trouble finding an insurance company that will cover me for a full two years! Any suggestions?

    Hi :)

    I used BIIS Bridges International Insurance Services, they a company based in vancouver, I got the full two years, more expensive then irish insurance but they won't cover us so these were the cheapest I found in Canada and they have been looking after irish people on the new two year visa. If you email info@biis.ca and give them all your details they will give you a quote.

    Good luck :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭Captain_Generic


    Anyone have any experience getting Winter Sports cover for more than 31 days?

    I'm doing a ski season, and went with Go4Less 2 year insurance, but what it doesn't say in the policy document is that the winter sports premium only covers a total of 31 days over the two years. Bit sneaky that they don't tell you until you've paid!


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 Dectyro


    has any1 gone on the iec and not got insurance??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭NewsMeQuick


    Anyone have any experience getting Winter Sports cover for more than 31 days?

    I'm doing a ski season, and went with Go4Less 2 year insurance, but what it doesn't say in the policy document is that the winter sports premium only covers a total of 31 days over the two years. Bit sneaky that they don't tell you until you've paid!

    How would they know if you skiied for 29 days, or 30, or 31? Passport stamps they can ski...but but when you go seeing for 32 days? :confused: :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭meelyb


    The following information applies to British Columbia (BC). I cannot say whether it applies to all provinces in Canada, maybe it does, but I am speaking from personal experience having moved to BC in May this year. I found out some very interesting and NEW information relating to the health insurance. I read boards.ie daily before I moved here and this was not mentioned.

    So like you all, I read stories of people not even being asked to show the health insurance they got at the airport when they arrived and were getting their visas issued. But we didn't want to take the risk right? Our visa stated we had to health cover for the two years. So I got the Go4less insurance via a link on Boards.ie.This cover was the cheapest and essentially glorified travel insurance, but the policy also had medical cover so we hoped it would be accepted. I also read threads that in BC, the goverment offers free health insurance. SO I applied the week I arrived. People it is not free! I got a massive bill for me and my boyfriend (it is $125month for us as common law partners), backdated from when we applied. The billing department said that as we were not Canadians or permanent residents we did not apply for tax relief/low income relief on our bill. I didn't know what he meant until he clearly explained that the condition of our visa was to have health cover as, albeit temporary, our visas make us residents of BC. By law everyone residing in BC (Canadians, permanent residents, temporary working visas i.e. us) must have health cover. It is mandatory. It is not a condition of our visa specifically. He said I cannot just cancel the MSP application either as health insurance is mandatory by law. So I explained I had private health cover (ahem, the Go4less). He said that is great- the health cover does not have to be MSP (this is just cheaper as its through the government), it can be private BUT the cover must be equivalent to the basic MSP. Incidentally, if I can prove the cover is the same, they will waive my bill and leave me alone. But the GO4 less is crap cover and not the same. e.g. I paid $125 to go to the doctor. Msp would have made it free, GO4less let you claim back 30eur or something and I am not bothered making claims from here. Many employers even pay for your MSP.

    My advice is a quote I have taken from my employers website (it is a government run agency)

    If you are a new or returning resident coming to BC from outside Canada, you should arrange for private coverage during the period you are waiting for MSP to become effective. Normally, the waiting period consists of the balance of the month of your arrival, plus two months.

    SO unless you want to take both the risk of breaking the BC law of having no health insurance and then also in the event of needing health cover being stuck with the bill, all you need is three months cover max, once you apply for MSP when you arrive. It is up to you what you opt for but I wish I had this info before hand. The Go4Less is useless cover, the same cost would have paid for 5months of MSP. My new employer actually pays for it but I am stuck with the bill from before that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭EI-DOR


    Right so I presume Goforless is fine to cover 24 months if I go through the Annual Multi Trip on the website? Has anybody added extras to that Insurance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Jane1012


    Has anybody tried VHI's 2 year plan?

    https://www.vhi.ie/info/MainServlet?action=backpackerHome


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭meelyb


    EI-DOR wrote: »
    Right so I presume Goforless is fine to cover 24 months if I go through the Annual Multi Trip on the website? Has anybody added extras to that Insurance?


    The 24month Go4less is a waste of time for BC. It is not adequate cover. Read my thread for details. The girl I work with is from Ontario, she said cover is free there. Look into it more for there but so you know it varies by Province. I keep calling them states. they don't like that!


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭armadillo86


    meelyb wrote: »
    The following information applies to British Columbia (BC). I cannot say whether it applies to all provinces in Canada, maybe it does, but I am speaking from personal experience having moved to BC in May this year. I found out some very interesting and NEW information relating to the health insurance. I read boards.ie daily before I moved here and this was not mentioned.

    So like you all, I read stories of people not even being asked to show the health insurance they got at the airport when they arrived and were getting their visas issued. But we didn't want to take the risk right? Our visa stated we had to health cover for the two years. So I got the Go4less insurance via a link on Boards.ie.This cover was the cheapest and essentially glorified travel insurance, but the policy also had medical cover so we hoped it would be accepted. I also read threads that in BC, the goverment offers free health insurance. SO I applied the week I arrived. People it is not free! I got a massive bill for me and my boyfriend (it is $125month for us as common law partners), backdated from when we applied. The billing department said that as we were not Canadians or permanent residents we did not apply for tax relief/low income relief on our bill. I didn't know what he meant until he clearly explained that the condition of our visa was to have health cover as, albeit temporary, our visas make us residents of BC. By law everyone residing in BC (Canadians, permanent residents, temporary working visas i.e. us) must have health cover. It is mandatory. It is not a condition of our visa specifically. He said I cannot just cancel the MSP application either as health insurance is mandatory by law. So I explained I had private health cover (ahem, the Go4less). He said that is great- the health cover does not have to be MSP (this is just cheaper as its through the government), it can be private BUT the cover must be equivalent to the basic MSP. Incidentally, if I can prove the cover is the same, they will waive my bill and leave me alone. But the GO4 less is crap cover and not the same. e.g. I paid $125 to go to the doctor. Msp would have made it free, GO4less let you claim back 30eur or something and I am not bothered making claims from here. Many employers even pay for your MSP.

    My advice is a quote I have taken from my employers website (it is a government run agency)

    If you are a new or returning resident coming to BC from outside Canada, you should arrange for private coverage during the period you are waiting for MSP to become effective. Normally, the waiting period consists of the balance of the month of your arrival, plus two months.

    SO unless you want to take both the risk of breaking the BC law of having no health insurance and then also in the event of needing health cover being stuck with the bill, all you need is three months cover max, once you apply for MSP when you arrive. It is up to you what you opt for but I wish I had this info before hand. The Go4Less is useless cover, the same cost would have paid for 5months of MSP. My new employer actually pays for it but I am stuck with the bill from before that!

    So are you saying that it'd be better to not get insurance before going to Canada, through go4less or otherwise? If I turn up at the airport with only 3 months insurance will that not cause problems with the two year visa?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭EI-DOR


    If I turn up at the airport with only 3 months insurance will that not cause problems with the two year visa?

    That's what I'm thinking!!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭armadillo86


    EI-DOR wrote: »
    That's what I'm thinking!!!

    I've read loads of posts on FB saying if you don't have the full two years insurance then you won't be issued a two year visa. So much conflicting information!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭meelyb


    I have not heard of anyone who has been asked at the airport for this insurance (myself and my partner included). I think the IEC did not make it clear enough that the law for anyone living in BC is to have health insurance. I think it is the law in all provinces in Canada, it’s just BC and Alberta that charge residents. If you live in BC, you can get MSP but they do accept the equivalent cover regardless of provider.

    Is it possible to get the Blue insurance just before you leave (which I did) and then cancel within a certain number of days? So you have your Cert at the airport just in case. I am not sure what the policy rules are though once you leave Ireland, whether that stops you from being able to cancel. I doubt it. Aren’t there online 7day cooling off EU laws? You can only get the insurance online. Anyway, I didn’t cancel mine when I arrived because I just chalked it down as an expense of getting here. Like everyone on this board, I didn’t want to take the risk at the airport, and figured it was worth the 340eur each for that reason alone. However, now that I am living here I would like adequate health cover. I only applied cos I thought it was free! Now I have indavertedly exposed myself as having possibly inadequate health cover. MSP apparently is a bit of a disorganized mess so I am not worried they will report me or anything. The guy in the billing place just said, you know one of the conditions of your visa that allows you to live here, is that you have health cover like everyone else. So I can’t cancel my MSP application unless I prove I have other cover. So its either be billed for the MSP and get straight forward cover. Or show them my Go4less and hope they say it’s enough. Either way though, I want cover and MSP is better. Most employers pay for it. In fact, of the employers that don’t (my boyfriend is a plumber and his doesn’t pay for MSP), they offer a benfit called ‘extended cover’. This is includes free prescriptions and full to partial cover on dentists, specialists et. However- you can only get these benefits if you have MSP. I think there is a Canadian private provider that is valid but it’s unlikely any of ye over there would have anything but Irish insurance. There is no messing about claiming back in Ireland and getting euros etc if you just get MSP here. Sorry for the long posts but I really think this is important to know.


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭armadillo86


    meelyb wrote: »
    I have not heard of anyone who has been asked at the airport for this insurance (myself and my partner included). I think the IEC did not make it clear enough that the law for anyone living in BC is to have health insurance. I think it is the law in all provinces in Canada, it’s just BC and Alberta that charge residents. If you live in BC, you can get MSP but they do accept the equivalent cover regardless of provider.

    Is it possible to get the Blue insurance just before you leave (which I did) and then cancel within a certain number of days? So you have your Cert at the airport just in case. I am not sure what the policy rules are though once you leave Ireland, whether that stops you from being able to cancel. I doubt it. Aren’t there online 7day cooling off EU laws? You can only get the insurance online. Anyway, I didn’t cancel mine when I arrived because I just chalked it down as an expense of getting here. Like everyone on this board, I didn’t want to take the risk at the airport, and figured it was worth the 340eur each for that reason alone. However, now that I am living here I would like adequate health cover. I only applied cos I thought it was free! Now I have indavertedly exposed myself as having possibly inadequate health cover. MSP apparently is a bit of a disorganized mess so I am not worried they will report me or anything. The guy in the billing place just said, you know one of the conditions of your visa that allows you to live here, is that you have health cover like everyone else. So I can’t cancel my MSP application unless I prove I have other cover. So its either be billed for the MSP and get straight forward cover. Or show them my Go4less and hope they say it’s enough. Either way though, I want cover and MSP is better. Most employers pay for it. In fact, of the employers that don’t (my boyfriend is a plumber and his doesn’t pay for MSP), they offer a benfit called ‘extended cover’. This is includes free prescriptions and full to partial cover on dentists, specialists et. However- you can only get these benefits if you have MSP. I think there is a Canadian private provider that is valid but it’s unlikely any of ye over there would have anything but Irish insurance. There is no messing about claiming back in Ireland and getting euros etc if you just get MSP here. Sorry for the long posts but I really think this is important to know.

    Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure what to do now. I'm moving to Vancouver in late February with my bf and the thought of handing over 600 euro to go4less or another travel insurance place is a bit sickening if the cover isn't even adequate!

    EDIT: Just read this on the moving2canada website:

    "Note: To participate on the IEC program you are required to have insurance that covers the full duration of your work visa and insurance that will cover repatriation costs. Provincial healthcare in Canada and medical cover from your employment typically do not cover these items so you need to get separate travel insurance.

    WARNING! We continually read in forums that not getting travel insurance for Canada is a great way to save money. It’s pretty rare that border officers will check for travel insurance for Canada but it’s important to understand the full scope of the issue. If you’re applying from Canada, then provincial health insurance is not a substitute to travel insurance as it does not cover repatriation costs (i.e. the costs of flying you home in the event of serious injury or death). We buy insurance in case the worst happens. Often, we feel that we are wasting money if that big event does not happen. As an adult, we encourage you to be responsible for your actions as your family would appreciate not being left with a $20,000 hospital bill in the event of serious injury or death and your subsequent repatriation home."

    That clears it up a bit... Seems we need to have both travel insurance AND health insurance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭meelyb


    EDIT: Just read this on the moving2canada website:

    "Note: To participate on the IEC program you are required to have insurance that covers the full duration of your work visa and insurance that will cover repatriation costs. Provincial healthcare in Canada and medical cover from your employment typically do not cover these items so you need to get separate travel insurance.

    WARNING! We continually read in forums that not getting travel insurance for Canada is a great way to save money. It’s pretty rare that border officers will check for travel insurance for Canada but it’s important to understand the full scope of the issue. If you’re applying from Canada, then provincial health insurance is not a substitute to travel insurance as it does not cover repatriation costs (i.e. the costs of flying you home in the event of serious injury or death). We buy insurance in case the worst happens. Often, we feel that we are wasting money if that big event does not happen. As an adult, we encourage you to be responsible for your actions as your family would appreciate not being left with a $20,000 hospital bill in the event of serious injury or death and your subsequent repatriation home."

    That clears it up a bit... Seems we need to have both travel insurance AND health insurance.[/QUOTE]


    Wow, that is interesting! Well I know my employer is good with their benefits. They offer 100% cover for any medical issue even when travelling outside of canada. I was made permanent straight away with benefits so I guess they are treating me as permanent citizen (though i am on a temp visa. I stretched the truth to say my boyfriends boss will be applying for our permanent residency next year, which he did offer to do but we haven't started the process). I was just thinking of us this time last year and how this information would have helped when I was researching what to do. Ultimately it is your decision. I wonder how Moving to Canada got their info- would be nice of the IEC to be a bit more informal and explain it clearer like they have.


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭armadillo86


    meelyb wrote: »
    Wow, that is interesting! Well I know my employer is good with their benefits. They offer 100% cover for any medical issue even when travelling outside of canada. I was made permanent straight away with benefits so I guess they are treating me as permanent citizen (though i am on a temp visa. I stretched the truth to say my boyfriends boss will be applying for our permanent residency next year, which he did offer to do but we haven't started the process). I was just thinking of us this time last year and how this information would have helped when I was researching what to do. Ultimately it is your decision. I wonder how Moving to Canada got their info- would be nice of the IEC to be a bit more informal and explain it clearer like they have.

    What industry are you working in if you don't mind me asking?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭meelyb


    I work in finance. Just back office admin stuff here. I have an interview next week for a University. Again, just admin office stuff but in payroll dept. (I have zero finance qualifications just seven years experience from ireland). Both will pay my MSP. The finance benefits are great where I am now - no wait period at the start, kicked in straight away but the job is a bitch and I really really want to get out of banking. It is my plan for Canada to change career. I had a great job back in Ireland but I didn't like it so took the chance to emmigrate with himself. Came here as my BF was unemployed back home. I have to start at the bottom here so using it to make a fresh start career wise. So baby steps. I say this lightly. I was out of work for the first six months here in vancouver and inches away from going home with my tail between my legs. It's been pretty hard but I'm getting there. Baby steps as I said. I am still hoping it has all been worth it! I can say I gave it my best anyway. i have given up everything to go here. All my savings, my family, lifelong best friends. It nearly broke my relationship as he loves it here so I want to try and make it worth it for me personally. I turned 30 while we have been here so the idea of starting from scratch has been scary but hopefully it will fall into place : )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭EI-DOR


    6 Months out of work? Christ.. Can see why you near got on that plane. Hope everything works out for you and himself :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭Gonzo_Reporter


    meelyb wrote: »
    EDIT: Just read this on the moving2canada website:

    "Note: To participate on the IEC program you are required to have insurance that covers the full duration of your work visa and insurance that will cover repatriation costs. Provincial healthcare in Canada and medical cover from your employment typically do not cover these items so you need to get separate travel insurance.

    WARNING! We continually read in forums that not getting travel insurance for Canada is a great way to save money. It’s pretty rare that border officers will check for travel insurance for Canada but it’s important to understand the full scope of the issue. If you’re applying from Canada, then provincial health insurance is not a substitute to travel insurance as it does not cover repatriation costs (i.e. the costs of flying you home in the event of serious injury or death). We buy insurance in case the worst happens. Often, we feel that we are wasting money if that big event does not happen. As an adult, we encourage you to be responsible for your actions as your family would appreciate not being left with a $20,000 hospital bill in the event of serious injury or death and your subsequent repatriation home."

    That clears it up a bit... Seems we need to have both travel insurance AND health insurance.


    From the MSP website http://www.health.gov.bc.ca/msp/infoben/faqas.html#whp



    I’m on a working holiday program – what do I need to send to apply for coverage?

    Persons on a working holiday program need to have:

    a working permit valid for at least six consecutive months or more,
    must be staying in British Columbia for at least six consecutive months, and
    be working a minimum of 18 hours per week.
    To apply for coverage, those with a valid working permit on a working holiday program must submit the Application for Enrolment form with both of the following items to determine eligibility:

    Confirmation of employment in British Columbia with:
    a copy of your employment contract indicating full-time status or the number of hours worked per week, OR
    a letter from your employer stating the date employment started and expected to end, and indicate full-time status or the number of hours worked per week.
    Departure date from British Columbia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭NewsMeQuick


    Hmm I was under the impression that you needed to be in BC for 3 months to apply for MSP? I'll have to find out where I got that. Well, either way, that page clearly says 6 months if on a WH visa.

    So, what do people think about the 2 year WH cover now? I don't want to pay money for something which is termed inadequate when I arrive and need a health service. Yikes. Though, the WH coverage does include travel, which the MSP doesn't.

    Edit: OK in the details it says residents in BC for 3 months can apply. I read it said working holiday visa holders can be eligible for this in that time frame. I also found the blog where a foreign citizen on the working holiday visa was eligible within 3 months and applied:

    http://marmitetomaple.wordpress.com/2012/07/09/msp-care-cards-and-healthcare-in-bc/#more-468

    OK I just read that the above blogger (well known on Moving to Canada) says that it's a good idea to get the travel insurance in addition because of the extras that it covers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 Laura Gaf


    Hey all, I am away to Canada this Thursday. I got my visa last year and only getting round to heading now :rolleyes: I did tonnes of research on insurance, reading this thread for starts.. and was going to go with the go4less policy as it was the best priced.

    I went to go ahead and pay for it today but they said they are no longer offering cover to anyone who had not bought flights from them or used them for getting their visa... I was a bit raging after spending loads of time doing the research. Its seems there is some issue with Blue insurance who is partnered with them. It sounds like there will something sorted in the coming months probably for the 2014 visas when they are out. Coincidently Blue insurance are also partnered with www.backpackertravelinsurance.ie

    I called backpacker travel insurance then and because I lived in the North for the past few years I would need to go through their UK site. This costs 275stg which is about 330eur.

    I also called VHI and they cover anyone in the 32 counties and are around the same price as backpacker insurance. I have arranged to go with VHI@ 329.00 for the 2 years not including winter sports.

    https://www.vhi.ie/info/MainServlet?action=backpackerHome
    I just thought that VHI are better known and easily contactable, Backpacker travel insurance excess for the UK is 100stg whereas its 85eur for VHI.. and I a little suspicious of going with Blue insurance now.

    Hopefully this might help.. particularly those living in the North.


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭armadillo86


    Laura Gaf wrote: »
    Hey all, I am away to Canada this Thursday. I got my visa last year and only getting round to heading now :rolleyes: I did tonnes of research on insurance, reading this thread for starts.. and was going to go with the go4less policy as it was the best priced.

    I went to go ahead and pay for it today but they said they are no longer offering cover to anyone who had not bought flights from them or used them for getting their visa... I was a bit raging after spending loads of time doing the research. Its seems there is some issue with Blue insurance who is partnered with them. It sounds like there will something sorted in the coming months probably for the 2014 visas when they are out. Coincidently Blue insurance are also partnered with www.backpackertravelinsurance.ie

    I called backpacker travel insurance then and because I lived in the North for the past few years I would need to go through their UK site. This costs 275stg which is about 330eur.

    I also called VHI and they cover anyone in the 32 counties and are around the same price as backpacker insurance. I have arranged to go with VHI@ 329.00 for the 2 years not including winter sports.

    https://www.vhi.ie/info/MainServlet?action=backpackerHome
    I just thought that VHI are better known and easily contactable, Backpacker travel insurance excess for the UK is 100stg whereas its 85eur for VHI.. and I a little suspicious of going with Blue insurance now.

    Hopefully this might help.. particularly those living in the North.


    That's weird, I booked my insurance with go4less earlier today and had no problems. Did you try booking it from this link or was it over the phone? http://www.go4less.ie/insurance/index_canada.asp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭NewsMeQuick


    Hi Laura, thanks for the update.

    Was backpackerinsurance also unavailable? That was the one I was aiming for.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    I know that there's restrictions with travelling back to Ireland with many of the insurance policies, but what about travelling to other places? Can you do that as much as you like? Let's say the USA, for example.


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 Laura Gaf


    Karbolt wrote: »
    That's weird, I booked my insurance with go4less earlier today and had no problems. Did you try booking it from this link or was it over the phone? http://www.go4less.ie/insurance/index_canada.asp


    Hi I tried that link but it wouldn't go through. We were living in Antrim and you can't pick that county. Thats why I called and then they told me about not being able to sell anymore policies so I went with VHI in the end.


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 Laura Gaf


    Hi Laura, thanks for the update.

    Was backpackerinsurance also unavailable? That was the one I was aiming for.
    Yes Backpackers is still available. But I would of needed to take out a policy in the UK as I lived in Northern Ireland the past few years. You should be able to buy through their Irish website if you have lived down south. Through their UK site (which was more expensive for some reason) the price works out about the same as VHI.


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