Do you get paid to work Overtime?

Larbre34

Niall558 wrote: »

I was told that I get paid the regular overtime rate and I am extremely encouraged and expected to work over time by my employer yet once pay day comes, Overtime is never heard of ......

Illegal in a boundless number of ways. Why do people put up with this sh*t?

krissovo

Larbre34 wrote: »

Illegal in a boundless number of ways. Why do people put up with this sh*t?

My salary is only about 35% of my annual earnings;) if I did 9 to 5 my salary would then be about 90%:(

Androidlovers

Nah ! We just get an offer to go bit early if we have some extra hours in our pocket ! Not Bad right

Ray Palmer

Big Mouth wrote: »

How long are you in business? You have a very simplistic view of the world.

So if you receive your monthly management accounts and you have lost for the month you're getting ready to close the doors?

So basically don't fight to turn a company around just quit, knock your creditors and all staff go on the dole......the world would be a better place if everyone thought like you :rolleyes:

You see this the attitude of many business owners. A poorly managed company unaware of income until somebody else tells them. No contingency in the company and most likely not keeping the required solvency in the company.
If this is happening regularly the business is not really viable long term. When profits rise do you think they'll pay for the OT? Most likely they will keep profit and expect the workers to be grateful as the owner "kept"them employed. They completely forget the employees free labour did.
Then you have the simple fact some are simply too tight and common practice in the industry. Resteraunts and bars have common practice of not paying past a point even though the employee stays cleaning up.
If you rely of free OT you are not running a successful business you are exploiting staff. If you can't survive without it on an ongoing basis your business is failing.

The tough choice is to be honest and say more hours same pay. It is a con otherwise and I suspect many business owners who do this have conned themselves.

DeltaWhite

Hahahahahaha yeah right... my boss would rather jump off a building then pay me overtime. Once it hits 5.00pm I am gone out that door!! I only work overtime if I want a half day etc.. but I am made work up the hours. I would rather just not be paid for a half day off but no, no!! That's not good enough in here >:(

kfallon

Don't get paid for it so I don't do it!

the_syco

No; I get TIL instead.

Madam_X

Larbre34 wrote: »

On other previous threads there have been plenty of Union bashing topics, and yes, many of the reasons for them were arguable.

However, in reading on here the type of scaremongering, unpaid work and pressurisation so many people must tolerate in smaller and/or private companies, makes me glad the Unions are still there, because I can tell you the type of underhand, unilateral, scheming and unjustifiable behaviours described here would not occur in a strong union environment. I'm not one of the comrades, but I'm not one of the doormats either

Absolutely. I always wonder about people who are really, really hostile towards unions. Fair enough, there are faults, but I don't get why the bad feeling becomes so vitriolic.

It's quite amazing how many people on this thread support an employer's right to be exploitative.

cade

It's part of my employment contract that I'll be expected to work a certain number of hours overtime to fulfil my duties. None of this time shall be compensated.

I do get paid normal time or time in lieu if I have to work over the weekend, but then again I only get paid for the normal workday hours over those weekend days, regardless of whether I worked through the night.

In my old profession I never would've worked unpaid overtime, but with my new profession I'm lucky to have the job so I'll deal with it until I've enough experience behind me so I can easily be employed before I start looking elsewhere for employment.

Red Hand

Yes, I get paid for overtime. Things have been crazy at work and did a good bit of it for a while, but as regards looking at my payslip, it didn't seem that much after tax.

nicrob08

Apologies if I am posting this question in the wrong section!
My husband has just returned to work after being off for 16 months due to a severe back and knee injury sustained in work, he had multiple operations and is now thankfully on the mend. He is in retail management and always works over his 43 hours his employer insists that he along with the other employees clock out once they reach their allotted hours, my husband is salary paid so I don't see what difference this makes. Then this morning he was called in to start 3 hours before his shift start time and again told not to clock in until 12, I am concerned due to the fact that he's had a previous accident what if something happens to him or one of the other employees while not clocked in? There is a heavily pregnant girl working on store too, I find this a crazy practice and assume its common practice but surely not legal? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

enda1

Madam_X wrote: »

Absolutely. I always wonder about people are really, really hostile towards unions. Fair enough, there are faults, but I don't get why the bad feeling becomes so vitriolic.

It's quite amazing how many people on this thread support an employer's right to be exploitative.

Because they are extremely damaging to the jobs market. THey lead to the success of the lazy and punishing of the hard working. THey protect the old to the detriment of the young. THey lead to poor company profits and ultimately to job loss. I'm finding it hard to understand what's actually good about them!?

Odysseus

nicrob08 wrote: »

Apologies if I am posting this question in the wrong section!
My husband has just returned to work after being off for 16 months due to a severe back and knee injury sustained in work, he had multiple operations and is now thankfully on the mend. He is in retail management and always works over his 43 hours his employer insists that he along with the other employees clock out once they reach their allotted hours, my husband is salary paid so I don't see what difference this makes. Then this morning he was called in to start 3 hours before his shift start time and again told not to clock in until 12, I am concerned due to the fact that he's had a previous accident what if something happens to him or one of the other employees while not clocked in? There is a heavily pregnant girl working on store too, I find this a crazy practice and assume its common practice but surely not legal? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I don't know, but it appears to me that your husband would be left out in the cold, if he had an accident. If he is not clocked in, the employer can just state he was not there offically. How it would work out in court I don't know.

Chips Lovell

enda1 wrote: »

Because they are extremely damaging to the jobs market. THey lead to the success of the lazy and punishing of the hard working. THey protect the old to the detriment of the young. THey lead to poor company profits and ultimately to job loss. I'm finding it hard to understand what's actually good about them!?

Have you ever even been in a union? As opposed to a caricature of one?

keithclancy

enda1 wrote: »

Because they are extremely damaging to the jobs market. THey lead to the success of the lazy and punishing of the hard working. THey protect the old to the detriment of the young. THey lead to poor company profits and ultimately to job loss. I'm finding it hard to understand what's actually good about them!?

They give the employer a method of communicating with the workforce as a whole.

You have good unions and bad ones.

The good ones come up with ways to improve working conditions and boost moral.

The bad ones are the ones that rave on only about rates of pay and overtime cuts.

nicrob08

Odysseus wrote: »

I don't know, but it appears to me that your husband would be left out in the cold, if he had an accident. If he is not clocked in, the employer can just state he was not there offically. How it would work out in court I don't know.

I just worry if something happened to a staff member while he was in charge as well this company has great double standards!

mlindsay215

I work as a nursing manager covering 2 wards in a hospital and section in a nursing home. I get paid for all the overtime I do including work at home which I must declare before doing it. I get an increase in salary during those hours and my shifts become flexible the more overtime I do.

Cravez

Don't get paid overtime, but any overtime I do however gets accumulated and I can take additional days off during the year.

enda1

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

Have you ever even been in a union? As opposed to a caricature of one?

Of course not. Why would I?

Chips Lovell

Figured as much.

giant_midget

time and a half for any overtime. if it's a sat (very rare) then i get double time after noon, saturdays are rare for me to work but i do the odd few hours overtime now and again. I feel bad for people "expected" to stay...that's not fair at all, time is precious...

enda1

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

Figured as much.

Ok so its one of those cheap get-out clauses like
-"if you're not a woman you can't know what a women is like"
-"if you're not a parent you don't know what children are like"

Nice try at defending your vacant point.

Skyflyer1234

Well where i work , working overtime seems to be a natural thing.....you dont get extra pay but for every minute you work overtime you can leave earlier or come in later but thats fine too for a nice early friday night

Its mixed where I work, we do get over time if its a whole shift if its just an hour or so we get time back.

Penn

Get time off in lieu, though even that doesn't always happen. One period of two months I did 3 days worth of overtime, including staying 4 hours late one Friday and coming in on the Saturday (when the office is closed) to get it done. After project was finished, boss said I could have a day off because of the overtime. I said thanks. Then he started looking through what I had to do next week and said it would be a fairly quiet week, so I said "Well, I did about three days worth of overtime over the past two months, maybe I could take two days off next week instead of one if it's not going to be busy for me anyway"

Cue 10 minutes of me being given out to. "We all have to work together and make sacrifices" "Why were you keeping track of how much overtime you were doing?" "There's always something to be done" "Business is the way it is and we have to take it as it comes" etc.

I think it was about 8 months before I ever did any overtime again, and even now I usually arrange for the time off in lieu before I do the actual overtime.