Do you get paid to work Overtime?

Firefox11

I would work most bank holidays but we get double time and a day in leiu for it so it all works out.

GalwayKiefer

Double time automatically and double time and a half on public holidays. We're always short staffed so there's plenty of extra work going every week.

michellie

Don't get overtime, bearly get 17 hours a week. If I get extra hours I'm lucky

stepbar

Do I ****.

strobe

If you're working overtime and not getting paid for it, you're a ****ing retard.

Pottler

strobe wrote: »

If you're working overtime and not getting paid for it, you're a ****ing retard.

My name joey.

Crooked Jack

toexpress wrote: »

It's an employers market. I have my own business and I can tell you if someone mentioned to me over time they would be finding themselves on the short end of me very quickly. Keeping in mind that in this economy it's bloody hard to keep a business going. There are weeks when I don't get paid and only for the fact I "consult" one afternoon a week to the public sector I would be up the creek myself. It's that few hours a week that I do which makes sure my house is run monthly. Overtime, to hell with it!!!

sure why bother paying them at all?
do you take the same attitude to people dodging in a few hours late? you're no better than a common thief

Cian92

I get paid double time for any hour over 39, I try not to do so though. If I only work 2 or 3 hours it is eaten up by tax and not worth it, so instead I try to do either 39 hours or 45 hours+.

Not a chance would I stay for even 30 minutes extra unpaid, I also never work through my breaks.

VEN

Stheno wrote: »

Nope, haven't for about 15 years.

It's a standard clause in most contracts on a salary and not an hourly rate that you may be expected to do overtime and it's unpaid.

i had a contract that said something like that but left the 'pay' part out.

"you may be expected to do overtime from time to time etc etc"

nothing about pay

beks101

Yup because I work freelance in a big media organisation.

Overtime is a daily reality for me, but so too are the sh1tty hours and totally unreliable schedule. I have to take what I'm given. Would swap it in a heartbeat for a staff job with guaranteed hours and job security.

mr_edge_to_you

I work a number of hours each week in excess of my "contracted" hours. I don't get paid overtime. I do however get paid a pretty decent salary for the work I do. Have often worked 14 days straight. Comes with the territory.

My salary divided by the number of hours I work is quite a substantial rate. Most jobs in which overtime is paid wouldn't be close to matching my standard hourly rate, even if I included my "overtime" hours.

VEN

toexpress wrote: »

It's an employers market. I have my own business and I can tell you if someone mentioned to me over time they would be finding themselves on the short end of me very quickly. Keeping in mind that in this economy it's bloody hard to keep a business going. There are weeks when I don't get paid and only for the fact I "consult" one afternoon a week to the public sector I would be up the creek myself. It's that few hours a week that I do which makes sure my house is run monthly. Overtime, to hell with it!!!

i have an immense problem with that, sorry.

VEN

the ethics of business, what business? thats not a business, thats a slave camp you've got there that will come back
to bite you in the ass. enjoy it short term but long term don't count on your employees being loyal to you, they more than likely hate you.
what a healthy working environment you've got there. well done!

Auldloon

Officially I don't. I'm a contractor on hourly rate. Unofficial when they really need me to let's say work a weekend which would make it a 7 day 77hr week I would get an extra day for it. In fact tomorrow will be the 24th day I will have worked out of the last 25. Weekend off though

_Kaiser_

It's a tough one really and depends on the company, your role and the level you're at.

I'm in IT and when I started off I just worked whatever the shift was and that was it. When I moved up the ladder it became more that an extra half hour/hour here and there if needed was "expected" and you just had to do it (if you wanted to get anywhere)

I then moved companies/industries and became the IT manager/support in one so if I didn't do it. it wouldn't get done and I'd just have a larger workload the next day. On the flip side though, I liked what I did and got satisfaction out of building something from nothing - and the basic salary wasn't too bad and I got a mileage rate (minimal but it helped a bit)

Nowadays I'm in a similar role (but purely the supervisory/management end) so it's again more-or-less an unwritten expectation, but that said I have the flexibility to work from home or vary my hours a bit so I balance it that way. The team I look after though get OT for quarter end work as we provide extended cover/on-call support etc

TOIL is something that always annoyed me though as I never had/have the time to use up the full entitlement as it is, never mind extra.. but they won't pay it instead either and you'll generally lose most/all of any unused AL when the year resets, so again just have to try and take time when you can.

VEN

Smcgie wrote: »

Its a funny world when it comes to who is selected for promotion - its often the most outspoken people from my experience.

yep, the little cut throats, they just lie and backstab their way to the top of a **** heap. probably screw the boss along the way and all. hilarious yet very sad

DanWall

A lot of companies abuse the system if you are not paid for overtime, they sneak salary payment into the contract. I was taking work home until I fond out I was not even getting paid to work over at the office. They would still deduct time off for going to the doctors or emergencies.
Union rules state you get paid time 1/2 and double time etc, you must also be informed in advance, they cannot give you a hours notice

MrTsSnickers

Pottler wrote: »

In theory, I'm on 24/7/365 call for technical support but if any b0llix calls me on that, woe betide them! I usually work 9-5 pretty much religiously and I make sure the people who work for me go home at 5 or slightly before - I know they have families etc and have no desire to take the p1ss. But, there's the very odd day when they have to work later(maybe once a month) and that's not paid overtime, that's expected as goodwill for all the days they go at 4.30 and I don't mention it.
If it snows, we work 24hrs and I pay for every hour worked, same goes for a breakdown at a factory, if it's 24 hrs worked, it's 24hrs paid. I worked for enough cnuts that expected me to do 7-7 every day despite only paying me for 9-5 so I have no desire to inflict that on anyone.

Will you give me a job? I'm a quick study, full of moxy and a delight to be around.

_Kaiser_

DanWall wrote: »

A lot of companies abuse the system if you are not paid for overtime, they sneak salary payment into the contract. I was taking work home until I fond out I was not even getting paid to work over at the office. They would still deduct time off for going to the doctors or emergencies.
Union rules state you get paid time 1/2 and double time etc, you must also be informed in advance, they cannot give you a hours notice

Depends on the industry. Most of the multinationals for example don't recognize unions and are not obliged to do so

donkey balls

I get paid double time for any hours extra I work, Saying that when I was working on agency contract work the companies paid a flat rate of pay regardless whether you worked nights/ weekends bank holidays etc.
And even worse some of these fookers wanted me to drive a 45 foot truck around Ireland for the min wage,The other day I was talking to a guy who told me that people being hired by his company were not getting paid for the time they spent in training,And only got paid once operational/working for the company.
There is a lot of companies out there that are using the current climate to tear/rip up employees T&C while still making profits,And by the look of things a lot of companies are going down the agency route which means you have no permanent contract and can be fired for no reason.

bluecode

Overtime? Hah! Half the time I'm lucky to even get paid at all. Toexpress's comment resembles someone I worked for. Even down to the comment that some weeks he doesn't get paid. Then he told me he paid himself less than he paid me. Seemingly oblivious to the fact that somehow he can afford a BMW, eat in nice restaurants, having a long haul holiday every year and afford to rent a big house all on the company's ticket.

He remains puzzled as to why so many of the people who did work for him suddenly go. Can't understand why so many people don't seem to 'share the dream.' Is angry at their disloyalty but doesn't seem to realise that he reluctance to pay people properly or at all might have something to do with it. He even tried to get someone to be available to work seven days a week without pay because he was giving him 'experience'.

Frankly people like that deserve to have their business fail.

This current market allows exploitation by employers. It's rampant and disgraceful.

VEN

bluecode wrote: »

Overtime? Hah! Half the time I'm lucky to even get paid at all. Toexpress's comment resembles someone I worked for. Even down to the comment that some weeks he doesn't get paid. Then he told me he paid himself less than he paid me. Seemingly oblivious to the fact that somehow he can afford a BMW, eat in nice restaurants, having a long haul holiday every year and afford to rent a big house all on the company's ticket.

He remains puzzled as to why so many of the people who did work for him suddenly go. Can't understand why so many people don't seem to 'share the dream.' Is angry at their disloyalty but doesn't seem to realise that he reluctance to pay people properly or at all might have something to do with it. He even tried to get someone to be available to work seven days a week without pay because he was giving him 'experience'.

Frankly people like that deserve to have their business fail.

This current market allows exploitation by employers. It's rampant and disgraceful.

cheers for that, needed to be said, and you hit it spot on. was told something similar myself by an ex whatever you'd call him, a lawless cowboy whatever. the old "you'd want to see the cut i had to take" lol, then ****s off on a foreign holiday during winter with the whole family. these guys will crumble. karma... such a great thing.

fasttalkerchat

I worked somewhere where it was the norm. They're trying to clean up now because burnt out managers can't leave because there are no other jobs so they're stuck with cripples and mentalists!

krissovo

Appropriate thread, been slaving away at my desk since 07:00 this morning, its now 00:48. I have a approval meeting at 07:30 and to prepare we are having a dry run at 06:00. I have 2 more hours of work so a 19 hour day for me The joy of global working Asia want early meetings, East coast USA want afternoon meetings and Pacific coast want night meetings :mad:

I will not get paid a penny in overtime:( Its in my contract as a senior manager that we may need to work more hours than the 40 paid for time off in lieu This week I will hit 90 hours worked as I started on Sunday:(

I do however spends weeks at a time getting paid to do nothing I am still working:( as I need to be available for phone calls but I can be Spain:D

Remmy

krissovo wrote: »

Appropriate thread, been slaving away at my desk since 07:00 this morning, its now 00:48. I have a approval meeting at 07:30 and to prepare we are having a dry run at 06:00. I have 2 more hours of work so a 19 hour day for me The joy of global working Asia want early meetings, East coast USA want afternoon meetings and Pacific coast want night meetings :mad:

I will not get paid a penny in overtime:( Its in my contract as a senior manager that we may need to work more hours than the 40 paid for time off in lieu This week I will hit 90 hours worked as I started on Sunday:(

I do however spends weeks at a time getting paid to do nothing I am still working:( as I need to be available for phone calls but I can be Spain:D

I wish I was important enough to be a country

rainbow kirby

In at 9.30-ish (I'm not a morning person), out at 6-ish. Could be a lot worse.

Old job expected loads of unpaid overtime, and we had a crazy Russian boss who used to send around emails saying about how great people are for working until midnight in the Paris office, and also gave me a bollocking once for the terrible crime of booking an 8pm flight on a Friday evening. Was so glad to leave...

twowheelsonly

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

TOIL is something that always annoyed me though as I never had/have the time to use up the full entitlement as it is, never mind extra.. but they won't pay it instead either and you'll generally lose most/all of any unused AL when the year resets, so again just have to try and take time when you can.

You're a fool if you allow that to happen. That leave is yours and you're entitled to take it. If the company can't afford to give you the time off then they must pay you for it or allow you to take it at a later time. It CAN'T just be written off unless you consent to it.

donkey balls wrote: »

I get paid double time for any hours extra I work, Saying that when I was working on agency contract work the companies paid a flat rate of pay regardless whether you worked nights/ weekends bank holidays etc.
And even worse some of these fookers wanted me to drive a 45 foot truck around Ireland for the min wage,The other day I was talking to a guy who told me that people being hired by his company were not getting paid for the time they spent in training,And only got paid once operational/working for the company.
There is a lot of companies out there that are using the current climate to tear/rip up employees T&C while still making profits,And by the look of things a lot of companies are going down the agency route which means you have no permanent contract and can be fired for no reason.

That's not unusual, in particular where it's 'short-term' training of only a few hours or one or two days.
Think about it. Without training/induction or whatever you're of zero use to the company. With training you are then available and capable of working, even at part-time rates of 10 hours a week it's 500 hours a year (but probably a lot more in most cases) for the sake of giving a few hours up for free to be trained.

BTW, was your Agency pay a 'Composite' rate or was it minimum wage? If it was a composite rate then it would cover unsocial hours (which are a thing of the past really..) but if it was minimum wage or close to it then it most likely wouldn't and you should be paid extra. Should be explained at the beginning of the contract though.

krissovo

twowheelsonly wrote: »

You're a fool if you allow that to happen. That leave is yours and you're entitled to take it. If the company can't afford to give you the time off then they must pay you for it or allow you to take it at a later time. It CAN'T just be written off unless you consent to it.

A little harsh, I think most people who work to time off in lieu never claw back all of it. Certainly none who get to to earn decent bucks as they are typecast as a jobsworth.

I'm on a set contract for a certain amount of classes.. Anything over and I get overtime pay. I love it because it's regular and still between 8am and 4pm.

toexpress

Crooked Jack wrote: »

sure why bother paying them at all?
do you take the same attitude to people dodging in a few hours late? you're no better than a common thief

Call me what you like. At the end of the day I have a huge number of CVs that are sitting here people who will happily take the job.