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Against the head

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    #362
    phog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,963 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Can you explain the role of an agent please? Your other posts would suggest that they are irrelevant as a player is his own promoter and his performances are the only thing that increases his profile.

    Google it, you're on a role with it atm


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    #363
    phog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,963 ✭✭✭✭phog


    molloyjh wrote: »
    I'm not sure if you're reading all of my posts here on this....



    Take for example Archer. He's not within an arses roar of the Ireland squad but that hasn't stopped Frankie mentioning him as being a contender on numerous occasions. Has that provided Archer with loads of commercial opportunities? Almost certainly not. Has it impacted Frankies performance of his role as analyst with RTE? Yes it certainly has. That is the problem.

    So in essence it hasn't enhanced the players profile.


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    #364
    Teferi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    phog wrote: »
    Why thank TommyOM's post if you want to engage?

    Why try move the goalposts instead of engaging with my point?


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    #365
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    phog wrote: »
    Google it, you're on a role with it atm

    Well given your posts so far on this, I believe that your opinion of role is drastically different to mine (& Google).
    Deleted User wrote: »
    Can you explain the role of an agent please? Your other posts would suggest that they are irrelevant as a player is his own promoter and his performances are the only thing that increases his profile.

    So I'm not sure the worth of a further Google search when what I'm looking for is what you think an agent does because your posts have suggested that they are as obsolete as floppy disks thus far.


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    #366
    wittycynic
    Registered Users Posts: 532 ✭✭✭wittycynic


    Is it somehow being argued that Frankie should not be employed as a commentator on the basis of this conflict of interest?


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    #367
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    wittycynic wrote: »
    Is it somehow being argued that Frankie should not be employed as a commentator on the basis of this conflict of interest?

    nope.


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    #368
    jm08
    Registered Users Posts: 11,300 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Teferi wrote: »
    Why try move the goalposts instead of engaging with my point?

    Why do you latch onto the 'whataboutery' accusation every time you don't like a response?


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    #369
    molloyjh
    Registered Users Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    phog wrote: »
    So in essence it hasn't enhanced the players profile.

    In all likelihood no, but then that isn't the point. This is only my third time saying that. :confused:


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    #370
    Teferi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    jm08 wrote: »
    Why do you latch onto the 'whataboutery' accusation every time you don't like a response?

    :confused:

    Read the conversation again there champ, you'll find nothing me saying nothing to do with whataboutery in my conversation with Phog.

    Here, I handily quoted the thread of conversation for you...
    Teferi wrote: »
    Pure naivety.

    Pashun and talent only help you so far, you also have to be sellable in order to get the best deal possible and this is through nominations, awards etc. which all get talked about in the media.
    phog wrote: »
    Why thank TommyOM's post if you want to engage?
    Teferi wrote: »
    Why try move the goalposts instead of engaging with my point?


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    #371
    jm08
    Registered Users Posts: 11,300 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    wittycynic wrote: »
    Is it somehow being argued that Frankie should not be employed as a commentator on the basis of this conflict of interest?

    That would seem to me to be what is being argued because of this 'conflict of interest' as there is no acceptance of any degree of what might be deemed 'conflict of interests'. Its black or white.


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    #372
    jm08
    Registered Users Posts: 11,300 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Teferi wrote: »
    :confused:
    Read the conversation again there champ, you'll find nothing me saying nothing to do with whataboutery in my conversation with Phog.

    Here, I handily quoted the thread of conversation for you...

    :confused: You responded a couple of time to me with a 'whataboutery' charge.


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    #373
    Teferi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    Yes because you were using whataboutery.

    You then quoted my response to Phog and posted
    Why do you latch onto the 'whataboutery' accusation every time you don't like a response?

    Bizarre stuff altogether.

    Jesus. Is this real life?


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    #374
    jm08
    Registered Users Posts: 11,300 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Teferi wrote: »
    Yes because you were using whataboutery.

    'Whataboutery' is the new goodwin law used when people don't want to engage in a discussion.
    You then quoted my response to Phog and posted

    You responded with this to Phog:
    Why try move the goalposts instead of engaging with my point?

    Bizarre stuff altogether.

    Jesus. Is this real life?
    In real life people using examples of similar situations to communicate are not accused of 'whataboutery'.


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    #375
    [Deleted User]
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    Have you guys seen the new rugby tv show called Against the Head? It's pretty good


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    #376
    Teferi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    jm08 wrote: »
    'Whataboutery' is the new goodwin law used when people don't want to engage in a discussion.



    You responded with this to Phog:





    In real life people using examples of similar situations to communicate are not accused of 'whataboutery'.

    k.


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    #377
    TommyOM
    Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭TommyOM


    jm08 wrote: »
    'Whataboutery' is the new goodwin law used when people don't want to engage in a discussion.



    You responded with this to Phog:





    In real life people using examples of similar situations to communicate are not accused of 'whataboutery'.


    4bUV7Ls.gif


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    #378
    .ak
    Registered Users Posts: 30,308 Mod ✭✭✭✭.ak


    Okay, that'll do. Enough of the snide comments and dismissive replies - and let's drop the conflict of interest discussion.


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    #379
    phog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,963 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Back to Monday night's show, it had an interview with James Coughlan, he said he found it hard to make the decision to leave Munster but he always wanted to travel and play abroad. He said it was tough telling the lads in Cork about his decision and then he had to travel to Limerick and meet the guys here to tell them too. You could see the emotion in his face as he spoke about it.

    He also mentioned he'd like to get into coaching and that France offered more opportunities because of the number of clubs over there.

    I wish him the best, he deserves it.


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    #380
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Pau will be in the Top14 next year bar a collapse. Coughlan has been a constant in the first team: 21 starts in 23 matches. He will have a fight to retain that sport next season when Pau inevitably beef up their squad.

    Despite Copeland's injury problems, given JOD's emergence and Stander's early season form it was in hindsight a good decision from Munster to allow Coughlan to leave.


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