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Shooting in the French Alps

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,796 ✭✭✭Calibos


    In fairness, it was the Surrey Police that bumped this on the 24th of June. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    A 48 year old man has been arrested in France in connection with this

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26240055#TWEET1047622


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1


    Interesting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭sadie06


    seamus wrote: »
    A 48 year old man has been arrested in France in connection with this

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26240055#TWEET1047622

    A hitman hired by his brother?


  • Registered Users Posts: 531 ✭✭✭biketard


    Wow, I never thought there would be any further developments in this case. Will be very interesting to see where this goes.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 470 ✭✭Mr.McLovin


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2684400/Al-Hilli-Alps-muirder-Police-investigating-deaths-British-family-shot-French-Alps-reveal-wife-secret-ex-husband-died-America-day.html
    Police investigating murder of British family shot in French Alps reveal wife had a secret ex-husband who died in America on the SAME DAY

    I'd say they're creamin in their pants over in the conspiracy forum now :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    Mr.McLovin wrote: »
    I really thought this couldn't get any weirder...


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,010 ✭✭✭Mike Litoris


    Mr.McLovin wrote: »

    Feck the conspiracy forum, I'm about to blow. :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    biketard wrote: »
    Wow, I never thought there would be any further developments in this case. Will be very interesting to see where this goes.

    In addition to the arrest and questioning of Al-Hili's brother, there have been a number of recent developments in the case prior to this including the arrest and release of a ex French police officer and the suicide of an ex FFL who was questioned about the murders. There were also rumours concerning the French cyclist killed - who was estranged from his partners wealthy family. It was pointed out that the cyclist was shot multiple times compared to the other victims in what investigators described as overkill. Now another suspect?


  • Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭thebannerboy


    She must have had some sort of information when she first fled Iraq. Whatever info she has cost her, her life and whoever else she came into close contact with. There could be another husband for all we know. Unless she was force married to some high ranking Al Qaida figure and he set out to recover her honour? Just saying.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭the culture of deference


    So it turns out that her "secret" 1st husband died on the same day of the murders in the USA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    So it turns out that her "secret" 1st husband died on the same day of the murders in the USA.

    That's a lot of dead people and a fair reach. So, someone powerful wanted to clean house..and did.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    That's a lot of dead people and a fair reach. So, someone powerful wanted to clean house..and did.

    The question is, who has the capabilities to do that in western countries, they had to have passports to reach the relevant countries with new identity.
    Oh Oh who could that be.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    This case takes another very odd turn. It is being suggested that a former soldier local to the area, who killed himself after being questioned by the police, was responsible. In this scenario, the cyclist was the target and the family were mere witnesses.

    Nothing about this makes sense.

    Guardian article
    A former soldier in the French Foreign Legion has been identified as the chief suspect in the 2012 murders of a British family in the Alps, according to a new book about the unsolved crime.


    Patrice Menegaldo, who killed himself last June, was interviewed as a witness after the shootings of Saad al-Hilli, his wife Iqbal, mother-in-law Suhaila and French cyclist Sylvain Mollier.


    Investigators are looking into Menegaldo’s movements because he exactly fits the profile of the professional hitman believed to be behind the killings.
    In an interview for the Daily Mirror book The Perfect Crime, state prosecutor Eric Maillaud said Menelgado was “at the top of the chain” for detectives, who have been hunting for the assassin on both sides of the channel.


    Iraqi-born satellite engineer Hilli and the other victims were shot at point-blank range on a forest road in Chevaline in September 2012. The family’s bodies were discovered in their BMW car, while the body of local cyclist Mollier, a father of three, was found nearby.
    Hilli’s two young daughters survived the attack – the eldest, Zainab, seven, was pistol-whipped, which police believe was a result of the killer running out of ammunition. Her sister Zeena, four, hid under her mother’s skirt.


    Maillaud said Menegaldo was acquainted with Mollier’s partner, Claire Schutz. The suspect and the victim were from the nearby town of Ugine. “The hypothesis at the top of the chain for investigators is a local killing. We have a real suspect. I am referring to the Legionnaire from Ugine,” he said. “Here is a middle-aged man who kills himself and to explain this leaves a letter saying he couldn’t handle being considered a suspect.”


    Maillaud said this was peculiar as Menegaldo had been interviewed only as a witness because he knew the Schutz family. “We are talking about a hardened ex-soldier, someone using a gun, suddenly saying he couldn’t deal with being thought of as a suspect. The investigators are still digging into this man. He had psychological problems.


    “Could it, by chance, have been him? Did he regret his actions afterwards and take his own life? Otherwise it is an inexplicable suicide. He had the technical capacity to do what was done that day.”
    The book also contains a claim from Hilli’s brother that there had been a “cover-up” over the deaths and that Mollier was the killer’s real target.


    Zaid al-Hilli told the Mirror: “Saad was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I think they twisted it around. It’s not fair on the families and the victims this went on for such a long time with not a shred of evidence.
    “There is a cover-up. I think they know who is behind it, who is the gunman and everything. It’s absolute nonsense what they came out with. I think they know exactly who was the target, and it was Sylvain Mollier.”


    Zaid al-Hilli, from Chessington, Surrey, admitted he fought with his brother in October 2011 after months of arguments over a £1m property, which the family owned in Claygate, but denied any suggestions he was involved in the killings. He was arrested on suspicion of the murders in June 2013 but later told that he would face no further action after police found there was insufficient evidence to charge him.


    In a further twist, the Mirror reported that Iqbal al-Hilli kept in touch with her secret American ex-husband Jimmy Thompson. Until now it was thought Iqbal had cut all ties with Thompson, who died of a heart attack on the same day as the murders.


  • Registered Users Posts: 531 ✭✭✭biketard


    FouxDaFaFa wrote: »
    ...Thompson, who died of a heart attack on the same day as the murders.

    I find it hard to accept this as a coincidence, but maybe it is. Doesn't look like they suspect anything.


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