'Enough is Enough' - Lance Armstrong

Idleater

No

amphkingwest wrote: »

and of course, the internet responds:

Dutch humour :-)

2 Wheels Good

No

Got this from a sports bulletin I'm subscribed to... you'd think people would update their promo material!

Attention: cyclists and triathletes!

Ever wished you could SPRINT as fast as Cipollini... CLIMB like Pantani... or TIME TRIAL like Lance Armstrong?

Then I reckon you’ll be interested in this...

Wibbs

No

Maybe it's an ad from a pharmacological company looking to expand in the current economic climate...

corny

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Lance Armstrong has now totally separated himself from Livestrong

fat bloke

No

corny wrote: »

Lance Armstrong has now totally separated himself from Livestrong

I was half way through that sentence before I realised the last word was not "reality"

hardCopy

No

corny wrote: »

Lance Armstrong has now totally separated himself from Livestrong

That explains all the laying around. It's good that he's now fully separated from the charity, stepping down as chairman while remaining on the board seemed to be a pure PR move.

Hungrycol

Yes, but he's still great

corny wrote: »

Lance Armstrong has now totally separated himself from Livestrong

So now it's just called "Live"?

AstraMonti

No

I have the feeling that he is going to get into politics, he is ideal, he has mastered the lying in your face part and he is excellent in giving delusional speeches.

brandon_flowers

No

The ****er L.A. is No. 3 on Strava on one of the runs I do, no getting rid of him.

Lusk Doyle

No

brandon_flowers wrote: »

The ****er L.A. is No. 3 on Strava on one of the runs I do, no getting rid of him.

Report his run as suspicious due to previous doping!

wonderfullife

No

I suppose it will come as no surprise due to the arrogance of the man but it has been reported here: http://www.businessinsider.com/lance-armstrong-trying-to-settle-with-former-sponsor-2012-11 that Lances attorneys have attempted to settle the lawsuit with SCA Insurers and offered them $1 million!!! Which they laughed off (considering he owes them $11,000,000).

Junior

Ha, who knew, the Picture Upload service Mobli that he used to post that image is part owned by ...... Armstrong ..

Morrisseeee

No

corny wrote: »

Lance Armstrong has now totally separated himself from Livestrong

The last cog in the 'con' wheel just fell off !!

/ie. evidence that he gave two fcuks about anybody all along

wonderfullife

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would it be going too far to suggest his trolling pic would be similar to Bernie Madoff posing sitting on a pile of cash?!!

Itziger

wonderfullife wrote: »

would it be going too far to suggest his trolling pic would be similar to Bernie Madoff posing sitting on a pile of cash?!!

I think when we look back, it'll be seen as the beginning of the end. A Nero fiddling while Rome ...... kinda thing.

Leroy42

The beginning of the end? Surely that happened the moment the USADA released the report?

happytramp

No

Walsh's new book out in time for Christmas. I'm liking the "it'll read like a detective thriller" line from the publishers.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/david-walsh-to-release-armstrong-book-seven-deadly-sins

C3PO

happytramp wrote: »

Walsh's new book out in time for Christmas. I'm liking the "it'll read like a detective thriller" line from the publishers.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/david-walsh-to-release-armstrong-book-seven-deadly-sins

Surely the least surprising bit of "news" for some time! Looking forward to it all the same!

MPFG

No

Spoof on McQuaids proposed hotline for cyclists

Quite like this esp the end

http://soundcloud.com/velocast/uci-doping-hotline

DeadMan1

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happytramp wrote: »

Walsh's new book out in time for Christmas. I'm liking the "it'll read like a detective thriller" line from the publishers.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/david-walsh-to-release-armstrong-book-seven-deadly-sins

I'm sure to buy it, but do you reckon there'll be anything new in it?

hardCopy

No

DeadMan1 wrote: »

I'm sure to buy it, but do you reckon there'll be anything new in it?

It'd be interesting to see what Walsh went through in his pursuit of Lance. He might have a few more people on the record now that weren't before. It'll surely be a rush job though unless he's been sitting on it for a while.

uberwolf

did half hear that one of our esteemed members will be on Newstalk this evening?

Trojan

No

uberwolf wrote: »

did half hear that one of our esteemed members will be on Newstalk this evening?

Herr-Doktor McGrane was on Off the Ball (around 7.38pm if that helps find it).

Not sounding mad positive about the idea of getting a CI EGM, but hopeful about the UCI independent review.

2 Wheels Good

No

Action Bikes in the UK, book sale, Chasing Lance, Was: £8.99, Now: You choose the price
Interesting to see how much people will pay

catch.23

No

2 Wheels Good wrote: »

Action Bikes in the UK, book sale, Chasing Lance, Was: £8.99, Now: You choose the price
Interesting to see how much people will pay

The £1 delivery is too much tbh.

drogdub

No

Good stuff from Cadel

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13306/Evans-comments-on-Armstrong-case-also-speaks-of-frustration-at-suspicion-hanging-over-riders.aspx?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+velonation_pro_cycling+%28Cycling+News+%26+Race+Results+%7C+VeloNation.com%29

petethedrummer

No

drogdub wrote: »

Good stuff from Cadel

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13306/Evans-comments-on-Armstrong-case-also-speaks-of-frustration-at-suspicion-hanging-over-riders.aspx?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+velonation_pro_cycling+%28Cycling+News+%26+Race+Results+%7C+VeloNation.com%29

hmmmmmmmmmmm. is it?

any rider who says anything other than "it was patently f**king obvious" is being economical with the truth.

And any rider moaning about being under suspiscion after cycling turned some magical corner in 2006 is living in a dream world.


If these lads are clean the need to say.
1. Yeah it was obvious to anyone especially us riding against the chap that he was doped to the gills.
2. Fair enough if you think we were still doped to the gills, given that the entire sport was awash with drugs.

Anything other than that is mealy mouthed wishy washy doublespeak.

12 sprocket

petethedrummer wrote: »

hmmmmmmmmmmm. is it?

any rider who says anything other than "it was patently f**king obvious" is being economical with the truth.

And any rider moaning about being under suspiscion after cycling turned some magical corner in 2006 is living in a dream world.


If these lads are clean the need to say.
1. Yeah it was obvious to anyone especially us riding against the chap that he was doped to the gills.
2. Fair enough if you think we were still doped to the gills, given that the entire sport was awash with drugs.

Anything other than that is mealy mouthed wishy washy doublespeak.

Pete are you sure that people can always tell if others are doping? I presume you race so have you ever thought people you were racing wiith were clearly doping?

wonderfullife

No

petethedrummer wrote: »

hmmmmmmmmmmm. is it?

any rider who says anything other than "it was patently f**king obvious" is being economical with the truth.

And any rider moaning about being under suspiscion after cycling turned some magical corner in 2006 is living in a dream world.


If these lads are clean the need to say.
1. Yeah it was obvious to anyone especially us riding against the chap that he was doped to the gills.
2. Fair enough if you think we were still doped to the gills, given that the entire sport was awash with drugs.

Anything other than that is mealy mouthed wishy washy doublespeak.

i take your highlighted point but bare in mind Cadel was speaking broadly about Armstrongs team more so than the man himself. If he comes out and says they were all doped to the back teeth, he leaves himself open for lawsuits by any clean members of that team during that era. It might be a small number but it's still a risk.

Even on boards.ie we can't as posters come on and accuse anybody of doping in the absence of a positive test. Which is quite right in one respect; it's not fair to have trial by internet or have aspersions cast upon people with no "proof". On the flip side it's that sort of logic and legal minefield which helped to enforce the Omerta over so many years. The fact people couldn't come out and publically voice suspicion or concerns about riders for fear of repercussions.

Cadel still has to tread carefully with his comments. Nobody, including Wiggo, Cav etc has come out with a sweepingly obvious statement like the one you think they should give. I could almost guarantee they are thinking along the same lines as you though.

Beasty

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I would add that even if someone was pretty certain that someone else was doping, without irrefutable evidence it they would/will be taking risks exposing the individuals, as a doper could still successfully sue (as indeed Armstrong clearly did) - we are talking about a legal test that's typically "on the balance of probablilities" if someone sues for defamation, not "beyond reasonable doubt".