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Nexus 7 Owners Thread - apps, tips & tricks!

  • 31-07-2012 1:35pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    Ok, so I struggled a little with the title... :pac:

    Figured it would be useful to have a separate thread for people who already own this device and would like to discuss useful apps, info about rooting, acquiring google play credit and so forth!

    Heres a useful link regarding flash support to get the ball rolling. :)

    And some other useful tips regarding USB device mounting. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭balkieb2002


    This post has been deleted.

    Nice job on new thread ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭liamhana


    Cheers for starting this...I've a feeling I'll be checking this a fair bit!
    I got mine on last friday, Still playing with it really...have used airsync to put itunes music on. Problems transfering from calibre to the kindle app, but that seems to be that kindle's new version is playing silly beggars at moment.
    Task this week; hook up to the desktop & do a decent amount of transfer of photos/books/videos etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭balkieb2002


    I was going to edit my second post but that deserves to be on its own. I'm just going through the other large thread to find some of the handy links that were posted!

    Can't recommend the Nexus Root Toolkit v1.5 enough.
    Very easy step by step process for unlocking your bootloader and rooting your device. The toolkit includes many other options such as backing up/restoring your device, installing applications, using ADB commands plus of course re-locking your bootloader and restoring back to factory settings which have all worked me.

    Below is the sample of applications I use that are available to you once rooted:
    Titanium Backup which will allow you in unfreeze the Google Applications allowing you to access your free stuff - Custom Rom will negate that requirement.
    Ability to use Switchme which is an alternative if your using Captain Morgans method for $25
    ClockWorkMod/Rom Manger - allows you an easy method of making a nandroid backup, install system files - plus even has a nice touchscreen version.
    StickMount - A big one for some people - Ability to use OTG cable which allows you to connect usb drives to your device i.e. expanding your space

    Some other handy apps that were found during my checking!

    Video Players:
    MX Player or DicePlayer which play a large range of formats AVI,MOV,MKV,FLV,AVI,3GP,3G2,ASF,WMV,MP4,M4V,TS,MTP,M2TS.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭Patsy fyre


    What are the main advantages of rooting this? Is it just to get flash working?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭balkieb2002


    Patsy fyre wrote: »
    What are the main advantages of rooting this? Is it just to get flash working?

    You don't need to be rooted to get flash working, as seen below ;)
    Download Adobe Flash Play 11.1 apk here or download it from XDA Developers (think link in OP). After the file has downloaded open and install it. Please be sure that “Install from unkown sources” is checked off in the Android settings for the Nexus 7.
    Install Firefox Beta browser from the Android Market.
    That’s it, now you have Flash support on your Android 4.1 (JellyBean)

    1. This will NOT work with the current build of Google Chrome. A dev may fix this in the future but Google nor Adobe will be adding Flash support to any future builds of Android. I’ve also tried the plugin with ICS+ Browser and Dolphin Browser HD, both of which don’t work with the method used above. FireFox seems to be the only browser currently that works with the flash plugin in Android 4.1.

    2. By default FireFox Beta has plugins set to “on demand”, which can cause some minor inconviences, however you can remedy this problem by going to:

    FireFox Beta settings (three dots to right corner) -> Settings -> Plugins -> Select: Enabled

    I was trying to put forward my arguement for rooting in the other thread for the TheDoc.

    Main points of that were:
    I still recommned rooting though as you can install custom roms (the stock rom has quite a few glaring faults imo) though this is up to your preferences I suppose. The customisation is endless though. Plus you always have the option of unroot and returning to stock at any time.

    Installing custom roms (such as Jr6 MCR or PARANOIDANDROID) is a big thing for me anyway, although the stock version of the JB is quite nice.
    Also quite a few handy application that will only work on a rooted device [see my post above for some prime examples].


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 841 ✭✭✭CFC007


    Hi All, I've set up a US vpn in order to get the free credit but I'm having trouble downloading the transformers movie. It's saying I need to update the app google plays movies but it's not giving me the option and I don't see the app on my N7? Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭blobbie


    Root.
    Titanium Backup -> Backup/REstore -> Defrost Google Play Books/magazine/Movies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 adamoadamoadam


    When you are in the us play store go to my apps and they should be there as updates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 adamoadamoadam


    If anyone was having trouble finding a VPN (took me a while to find a good free one) I used CactusVpn. It has a free two day trial and worked just fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    anyone got a decent icon pack working thro nova? most dont seem to work with JB


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 841 ✭✭✭CFC007


    What did you type in for server address for cactus?
    If anyone was having trouble finding a VPN (took me a while to find a good free one) I used CactusVpn. It has a free two day trial and worked just fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 adamoadamoadam


    You have to go cactusvpn.com and register for a two day trial, then the email you all the details. Sorry for confussion. I found it handy that way plus you have the two days if you wanted to spend the free credit in the us store.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭Patsy fyre


    Anyone been able to get whatsapp working?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭balkieb2002


    Apparently some people have got it working but not in the way your after.

    You can't have two devices on whatsapp with same number.

    You can have nexus 7 registered with a different number. Google voice for example. There's instructions in this thread about it

    This is the post in that thread that explains how to do it though seems like a lot of effort for something that wouldn't be really useful. I'd say once the device is out more workarounds may appear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭allybhoy


    blobbie wrote: »
    Root.
    Titanium Backup -> Backup/REstore -> Defrost Google Play Books/magazine/Movies

    What does this do? Install Books\Magazines and Movies without havign to use the US VPN?

    Ive rooted my nexus (1st android device) but i though Titanium was for backing up and restoring if you want to instal custom roms etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭balkieb2002


    allybhoy wrote: »
    What does this do? Install Books\Magazines and Movies without havign to use the US VPN?

    Ive rooted my nexus (1st android device) but i though Titanium was for backing up and restoring if you want to instal custom roms etc.

    By default Books/Magazines/Movies etc are installed on all devices but when the N7 realises your location, Google have set Jelly Bean to "freeze" (disable/hide) these applications depending on what's available in your region.

    Using Titanium Backup, you can see find these applications again and have an option to "defrost" them. This adds them back into your application list though you would need to do this after every restart.

    Without a US VPN, you still cannot access the stores for these applications only items you previously purchased or downloaded (except tv/movies).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭allybhoy


    By default Books/Magazines/Movies etc are installed on all devices but when the N7 realises your location, Google have set Jelly Bean to "freeze" (disable/hide) these applications depending on what's available in your region.

    Using Titanium Backup, you can see find these applications again and have an option to "defrost" them. This adds them back into your application list though you would need to do this after every restart.

    Without a US VPN, you still cannot access the stores for these applications only items you previously purchased or downloaded (except tv/movies).

    Ah ok thanks, yeh ive just done it there and i can see a couple of magazines and only one movie, Transformers which i presume is free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    guys, anyone using nova launcher, what icons pack work.

    Ive tried a few and only glasskart seems to work, not xelium or micons

    is it a JB thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭balkieb2002


    allybhoy wrote: »
    Ah ok thanks, yeh ive just done it there and i can see a couple of magazines and only one movie, Transformers which i presume is free.

    Yeah using the US VPN you can access for free the 1 Book and 4-5 Magazines and then view them later on Irish network. You can also use your free credit to purchase books and mags from the US Play Store and then download them using Irish connection for offline viewing later.
    Also if you have an Android phone with a decent size screen you can access them on that, so you can continue your book whereever you go :)

    Transformers 3 is the free movie you recieve though that would take quite a while to download (on a US VPN) and also take up quite a bit of space so not really worth it. Also can't stream it as it seems to recognise your location even with the VPN - same thing if purchase anything in the TV/Movie Store.

    If your intending on using these applications alot I'd recommend using a Custom ROM as a couple I've seen have disabled JB freezing those applications so they are available all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭allybhoy


    Yeah using the US VPN you can access for free the 1 Book and 4-5 Magazines and then view them later on Irish network. You can also use your free credit to purchase books and mags from the US Play Store and then download them using Irish connection for offline viewing later.
    Also if you have an Android phone with a decent size screen you can access them on that, so you can continue your book whereever you go :)

    Transformers 3 is the free movie you recieve though that would take quite a while to download (on a US VPN) and also take up quite a bit of space so not really worth it. Also can't stream it as it seems to recognise your location even with the VPN - same thing if purchase anything in the TV/Movie Store.

    If your intending on using these applications alot I'd recommend using a Custom ROM as a couple I've seen have disabled JB freezing those applications so they are available all the time.

    Cheers,

    AH feck it, there is no content up there and sure any books i need ill just download them as PDF or something. Im liking the content app though, has the guardian and sun and a few magazines like NOW that her indoors likes, looks very nice aswell.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭allybhoy


    dregin wrote: »


    Very nice, I like the idea of a wrist strap could be tempted! Let us know how you find it.

    Dealextreme are starting to get in accessories for it, im looking for screen protectors, none available yet but i came across this leather case for 8.70euro delivered. Fairly basic but suppose you get what you pay for. No stand function

    http://www.dealextreme.com/p/protective-pu-leather-case-for-google-nexus-7-black-147776?item=1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    New range of cases out today on mobile fun in the UK
    http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/cat/Nexus-7-Cases.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,410 ✭✭✭jonski


    Hi,

    I'm new to the Nexus 7 ( obviously )
    I'm not new to android , have a HTC Desire S
    I'm new to rooting or modding or changing in any way shape or form an android device

    And now for the question

    If I root ( thinking of using the suggested one above 1 Touch Root ) will the Nexus 7 still get any Android JB updates that are released or will I need to do it manually ?

    I'm gonna have soooo many questions I should get my own forum ................. or maybe just get one of ye to call to the house and do it


    NO! , I'm gonna do this myself with Boardsies help like I have built and repaired countless pc's ...... god damn it .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭balkieb2002


    jonski wrote: »

    If I root ( thinking of using the suggested one above 1 Touch Root ) will the Nexus 7 still get any Android JB updates that are released or will I need to do it manually ?

    Now I'm not 100% sure on the N7 as I updated mine to 4.1.1 before I rooted it but I've done it before on SGII using the following method and I presume would be same for other Android devices.
    Once your rooted, you can update the firmware. Just boot your phone/tablet into bootloader mode and make sure the firmware is on the root of your sd card (same for tablet), and it should install automatically. You shouldnt lose root after doing this, as I ve updated my firmware a few times and its never happened.

    Only by flashing a stock ROM should you lose root.

    The rooting itself is an easy process if you use that program I posted to earlier as its more or less a step by step guide though any issues I'm glad to help :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    jonski wrote: »
    If I root ( thinking of using the suggested one above 1 Touch Root ) will the Nexus 7 still get any Android JB updates that are released or will I need to do it manually ?
    You can root it and leave the stock ROM on it. This will give you the OTA updates instead of manually flashing but youll probably lose root access with the update


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭balkieb2002


    You can root it and leave the stock ROM on it. This will give you the OTA updates instead of manually flashing but youll probably lose root access with the update

    I have also read that some people on XDA used the OTA and did not lose their root. I suppose the device and updates being direct from Google means they may be more trustworthy and not put as many checks (bootloader/apps) into their updates.

    Though you could also use something like the OTA RootKeeper to get around that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    dregin wrote: »

    Picked one up at the reduced rate. Was buying some books so got it in on free shipping too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭Eponymous


    Hi all.

    In my apps on the Nexus7 there are two IMEs. One is pinyin, the other Korean. Is it okay to uninstall these? Just worried that they might be system level apps and removal could cause problems.

    Total novice when it comes to android. Installed Go Launcher on my Galaxy and thought I was the man!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭balkieb2002


    Eponymous wrote: »
    Hi all.

    In my apps on the Nexus7 there are two IMEs. One is pinyin, the other Korean. Is it okay to uninstall these? Just worried that they might be system level apps and removal could cause problems.

    Total novice when it comes to android. Installed Go Launcher on my Galaxy and thought I was the man!

    They are for using Chinese or Korean languages with your keyboard. I don't see any reason why they cannot be removed (you can download them again from PlayStore) though I'm not sure why you need to remove them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭kenyard


    there has been lots of questions as to the benefits of rooting. people arent answering the main one.
    USB or external Harddrive support.
    if you root you can get an app or some additional firmware which allows you add a usb. i was thinking of getting it and getting a thumb drive usb to leave stuck in as it wouldnt add much bulk if any, or get a micro sd card usb thingy and use a 32gb sd card in it either. would be dead handy for movies etc to give space for them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭balkieb2002


    kenyard wrote: »
    there has been lots of questions as to the benefits of rooting. people arent answering the main one.
    USB or external Harddrive support.
    if you root you can get an app or some additional firmware which allows you add a usb. i was thinking of getting it and getting a thumb drive usb to leave stuck in as it wouldnt add much bulk if any, or get a micro sd card usb thingy and use a 32gb sd card in it either. would be dead handy for movies etc to give space for them

    Ahem...
    StickMount - A big one for some people - Ability to use OTG cable which allows you to connect usb drives to your device i.e. expanding your space


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭Eponymous


    They are for using Chinese or Korean languages with your keyboard. I don't see any reason why they cannot be removed (you can download them again from PlayStore) though I'm not sure why you need to remove them.
    Thanks.

    No particular reason. I got a notification this morning for an update to the pinyin IME and it was over 6mb. Not much I know, but if it's unnecessary for me to use the nexus properly, I'd just rather remove it and avoid getting nagged to update apps I don't need.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    ok so i am building up a nice collection of emulators and roms I have PSX, N64, SNES, Amiga 500 but was looking for a good NeoGeo one, i know there is a couple in the play store but has anybody first hand experience of them and provide a hand in choosing the correct/best one to purchase.

    Also got a 2nd hand PS3 six axis controller, paired it upto the nexus 7 for gaming glory.. My kid no want my Nexus 7 and dumped his 3DS to the side.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭WeleaseWoderick


    BrookieD wrote: »
    ok so i am building up a nice collection of emulators and roms I have PSX, N64, SNES, Amiga 500 but was looking for a good NeoGeo one, i know there is a couple in the play store but has anybody first hand experience of them and provide a hand in choosing the correct/best one to purchase.

    Also got a 2nd hand PS3 six axis controller, paired it upto the nexus 7 for gaming glory.. My kid no want my Nexus 7 and dumped his 3DS to the side.....

    Do you need to root the Nexus to do this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭marcbrophy


    kenyard wrote: »
    there has been lots of questions as to the benefits of rooting. people arent answering the main one.
    USB or external Harddrive support.
    if you root you can get an app or some additional firmware which allows you add a usb. i was thinking of getting it and getting a thumb drive usb to leave stuck in as it wouldnt add much bulk if any, or get a micro sd card usb thingy and use a 32gb sd card in it either. would be dead handy for movies etc to give space for them

    Any recommendations on a small usb reader for micro sd that will connect to micro usb?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭balkieb2002


    Do you need to root the Nexus to do this?

    Not sure how BrookieD did his but for example using the Sixaxis Controller app does require root access. You can alternativly also use a WiiMote or the XBOX 360 wired controller and a USB OTG cable, so if you have any of the major consoles your sorted :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    Not sure how BrookieD did his but for example using the Sixaxis Controller app does require root access. You can alternativly also use a WiiMote or the XBOX 360 wired controller and a USB OTG cable, so if you have any of the major consoles your sorted :D


    Hi
    Rooted the Nexus 7 to get the PS3 control working. the Wiimote would just not connect.
    But i needed to change the mac address of the control to get it to pair. apart from that is easy as pie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭WeleaseWoderick


    BrookieD wrote: »
    Hi
    Rooted the Nexus 7 to get the PS3 control working. the Wiimote would just not connect.
    But i needed to change the mac address of the control to get it to pair. apart from that is easy as pie

    Cool, thanks!

    Another question regarding rooting. If I want to keep the stock ROM, will rooting give me access to all this extra stuff? i.e. PS3 controller use, USB mounting, Flash, unfreezing Google Apps.

    Or do I need to install a custom ROM to run these things?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭balkieb2002


    Cool, thanks!

    Another question regarding rooting. If I want to keep the stock ROM, will rooting give me access to all this extra stuff? i.e. PS3 controller use, USB mounting, Flash, unfreezing Google Apps.

    Or do I need to install a custom ROM to run these things?

    All you need is the stock ROM.

    It more or less: Get Nexus 7 -> Unlock Bootloader -> Root Device and have access to all those lovely things (hardest step is the first one ;))

    Custom ROMs just add features, change the UI or may have some of the above as features (Google Apps, Flash) as standard.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,410 ✭✭✭jonski



    Can't recommend the Nexus Root Toolkit v1.5 enough.
    Very easy step by step process for unlocking your bootloader and rooting your device. The toolkit includes many other options such as backing up/restoring your device, installing applications, using ADB commands plus of course re-locking your bootloader and restoring back to factory settings which have all worked me.

    .

    Ok , when you said simple you obviously were not taking into account how stupid I am . For a star I mixed up the one from M.Sabra and this one from Wugfresh and went ahead with the M.sabra one ....... does this just root the device ?
    Can I go ahead and use the WugFresh one ?
    In the options for list your device it says 4.1.1 build JRO03c ...mine is 4.1.1 JRO03D ..does this make a hugh difference ?

    Jaysus me head is addled


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭johnmcdnl


    jonski wrote: »
    Ok , when you said simple you obviously were not taking into account how stupid I am . For a star I mixed up the one from M.Sabra and this one from Wugfresh and went ahead with the M.sabra one ....... does this just root the device ?
    Can I go ahead and use the WugFresh one ?
    In the options for list your device it says 4.1.1 build JRO03c ...mine is 4.1.1 JRO03D ..does this make a hugh difference ?

    Jaysus me head is addled

    I haven't a clue what you've done or haven't done but if you reboot your Nexus now and when the Google screen comes up during the loading look to see if there is an Unlocked Icon at the bottom of the screen.
    Something along the lines of this at the botttom of the screen basically

    file.php?avatar=2_1267382792.png

    If there is Bob's your uncle your rooted as easy as that. If there isn't use the Root Toolkit by WugFresh.


    EDIT - it's probably even easier to just install this app and check for root access.
    Root Checker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭balkieb2002


    jonski wrote: »
    Ok , when you said simple you obviously were not taking into account how stupid I am . For a star I mixed up the one from M.Sabra and this one from Wugfresh and went ahead with the M.sabra one ....... does this just root the device ?
    Can I go ahead and use the WugFresh one ?
    In the options for list your device it says 4.1.1 build JRO03c ...mine is 4.1.1 JRO03D ..does this make a hugh difference ?

    Jaysus me head is addled

    Yeah I orginally got confused between the two of them as well but didn't actually complete the M.sabra install. I did use the drivers from his release though as that seemed to be the hardest part in the other program.

    In order to Root your device your bootloader must be unlocked. You can tell it's unlocked by the very last line on the bootloader screen or even easier, if when you turn on your device you see a lock symbol underneath the Google loading screen.
    N.B. To unlock your bootloader your device will be wiped, hence why this it's best to do this first thing when you get your device!

    If it's unlocked there is a good chance you are rooted. To check this you need to find SuperSU in your list of applications (the first kit you ran should have installed this) and run it. It should prompt you to give it Root Access.

    I know there is lots of information there but if you let me know what you see then we can work from there!

    Bah johnmcdnl beat me to it... picture = easier then lots of writing :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,410 ✭✭✭jonski


    OK , it obviously worked then ..... I see the unlocked padlock when booting and can see the su app ......... I was also able to install stickmount which was my only goal .

    Don't mind me lads ......I panic easily


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭Patsy fyre


    Can we ever expect to get full access to services that they get in the USA?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭johnmcdnl


    Patsy fyre wrote: »
    Can we ever expect to get full access to services that they get in the USA?

    We tend to get them a while after - street view for example.. Won't be holding my breath waiting on them but I'd expect to see them at some stage.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    If apple can do it with iTunes, I'm sure Google will be selling music here at some point. Not sure what the deal is with devices... Can they just not be arsed meeting the demand of the whole world? By all accounts, their cover is brutal anyway :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭liamhana


    So has anyone got some cool tricks, tips or apps that dont involve rooting! Fair play to those of ye that have but I'm not that techie confident & certainly not with a new toy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭wingnut


    Anyone having issues with flash?

    First time I installed FF Beta and the Flash APK it worked fine.

    I did a factory reset and reinstalled the same combo. The flash works but it scales horribly and looks distorted. Flash video appears ok but flash UIs are horrible.

    I did another factory reset and its the same thing. Frustrating as it worked fine first time out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭liamhana


    I've had the same with flash - videos work fine & been able to watch things but the interface looks out of focus...not overly bothered by it though as long as I can watch some TV!


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