Things youth defence hates..

NotForResale · 31-07-2012 6:21pm

Someone made a petition i have only just become aware of.

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/the-irish-government-legislate-for-the-x-case-before-the-end-of-2012

mehfesto · 31-07-2012 6:39pm

Just asked on FB if they've permission to use the songs in their YouTube videos.
Seems they hate copyright too.

NotForResale · 31-07-2012 6:44pm

mehfesto wrote: »

Just asked on FB if they've permission to use the songs in their YouTube videos.
Seems they hate copyright too.

They might actually have that, in caption below the video its mentioned with a clickable link, so at the very least youtubes drm algorithm has probably correctly identified it.

are we dancer?

whoa , http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Pmafm9wIET4#t=154s crucifix earrings and rosary in hands, does she think she gets extra points for that?

NotForResale · 31-07-2012 7:12pm

mehfesto wrote: »

Just asked on FB if they've permission to use the songs in their YouTube videos.
Seems they hate copyright too.

You might be right though, it seems to have been deleted fast.

NotForResale · 31-07-2012 7:47pm

A lot of their supporters beliefs also seem to be at odds with what youth defence claims to believe itself.

This one is clearly just antisex and see's a child as a punishment, favouring abortion in fairly limited circumstance that youth defence itself would be against.

reminds me of "the only moral abortion is my abortion" stories.

Cienciano · 31-07-2012 9:38pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Did the mouse arrow in the screenshot confuse anyone else? No? Just me then

MagicMarker · 31-07-2012 9:43pm

Is anyone else sick of the "I'm against abortion except in cases of rape" brigade?

If I genuinely thought abortion was the murder of an innocent child then I'd be against it even in cases of rape.

Bannasidhe · 31-07-2012 9:55pm

Cienciano wrote: »

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Did the mouse arrow in the screenshot confuse anyone else? No? Just me then

Might have.

Hotblack Desiato · 31-07-2012 10:02pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

Is anyone else sick of the "I'm against abortion except in cases of rape" brigade?

Yes.
I'm also thoroughly sick of the "don't really believe in a god, go to church rarely if ever, get the kids baptised, send them to catholic school, tick catholic on the census, would be outraged to be described as atheist or agnostic" brigade.
Probably a lot of overlap between them and the lot you refer to.
Religion succeeds because most people either aren't very good at really thinking things through, or just can't be bothered.

fitz0 · 31-07-2012 10:03pm

NotForResale wrote: »

reminds me of "the only moral abortion is my abortion" stories.

I felt physically sick reading that.

Now it may be the mild food poisoning I've given myself but I'd like to think it was the hypocrisy.

NotForResale · 01-08-2012 3:50am

Cienciano wrote: »

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Did the mouse arrow in the screenshot confuse anyone else? No? Just me then

Ubuntu.

coffee_cake · 01-08-2012 10:03am

MagicMarker wrote: »

Is anyone else sick of the "I'm against abortion except in cases of rape" brigade?

If I genuinely thought abortion was the murder of an innocent child then I'd be against it even in cases of rape.

yeah, it's the pro-punishment stance

they go mental and start yelling about BUT OMG ITS RAPE YOU HORRIBLE PERSON if you point out the inconsistency and the fact they're not actually pro-life

mehfesto · 01-08-2012 12:31pm

NotForResale wrote: »

They might actually have that, in caption below the video its mentioned with a clickable link, so at the very least youtubes drm algorithm has probably correctly identified it.

are we dancer?

whoa , http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Pmafm9wIET4#t=154s crucifix earrings and rosary in hands, does she think she gets extra points for that?

Perhaps. It's still ironic they're using a song by The Killers.

EDIT: Sure I e-mailled Universal Music to find out!

Nodin · 01-08-2012 1:55pm

NotForResale wrote: »

Ubuntu.

Ungawa!!!!!!!!!!!!

NotForResale · 01-08-2012 7:10pm

Ah finally, took me a while to find this exact piece.

Youth Defence throwing a tantrum over boots selling the morning after pill.

Hotblack Desiato · 02-08-2012 12:23am

^ Clicking on YD's site makes baby cthulhu cry.

Wonder if they look at ther logs for referrer info.

"Wow we're doing really well with hits from boards.ie lately..."

Hotblack Desiato · 02-08-2012 12:25am

NotForResale wrote: »

Ubuntu.

It's identical to the default KDE4 pointer as well, someone's been copying

lazygal · 02-08-2012 9:19am

NotForResale wrote: »

Ah finally, took me a while to find this exact piece.

Youth Defence throwing a tantrum over boots selling the morning after pill.

I love the line 'Concern Rises'. Really? Concern within YD that its becoming increasingly irrelevant, perhaps.

I'd also like to know how much time, effort and money YD puts into looking after the children who've been born, and let pregnant women sort out their own bodies. I think a lot of these groups are pro pregnancy and pro limiting the rights of others, when the child is born they don't give a sh!t and likely complain about payments made to single parents.

old hippy · 02-08-2012 1:13pm

I'd be concerned over the crazy price - 45 quid!!!!! :mad:

Hotblack Desiato · 02-08-2012 9:41pm

Cheaper than a kid though

Nodin · 02-08-2012 9:46pm

ninja900 wrote: »

Cheaper than a kid though

And stops the whole "fear" thing too, one would imagine.

I was about so suggest that it spare the underwear, but wimminz wouldn't suffer from so indelicate a phenomena.

NotForResale · 02-08-2012 10:55pm

They have debate tactics page too http://www.prolifeinfo.ie/resources/debating-resources/debate-tactics/

State as a fact that your opponent has not effectively presented his case.

The whole objective seems to be to simply enrage anyone they're forced to debate by being a parrot.

Hotblack Desiato · 03-08-2012 12:21am

Nodin wrote: »

And stops the whole "fear" thing too, one would imagine.

I was about so suggest that it spare the underwear, but wimminz wouldn't suffer from so indelicate a phenomena.

I've seen a friend of a friend go through the whole cycle, from 'late' to 'missed' to 'oh ****' to 'appeal to students union for money' to 'boat tickets' (yeah it was 20 years ago) to 'coming home and never speaking of this again'. Changes ones perspective on these things.

NotForResale · 07-08-2012 7:24pm

This is only loosely related but i have noticed a group (probably more that one) called "feminists for life" knocking about as a 'like' on the youth defence page.

Turns out its international branch was once headed by our own
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_for_Life#FFL_of_Ireland
"]Breda O Brien[/URL] she's seems hardly feminist.

who also patrons the Iona institute.http://www.ionainstitute.ie/personnel_patrons.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_for_Life#FFL_of_Ireland

"Feminists for life" seems to be pushing "New feminism"

a predominantly Catholic philosophy which emphasizes a belief in an integral complementarity of men and women

Turtwig · 08-08-2012 2:56am

Catholic Feminism - Dafuq?

Sarky · 08-08-2012 3:03am

Clearly they feel that women have too many rights.

MrPudding · 08-08-2012 3:38am

Jernal wrote: »

Catholic Feminism - Dafuq?

That's one of them oxymoron things, isn't it?

MrP

Turtwig · 08-08-2012 3:52am

MrPudding wrote: »

That's one of them oxymoron things, isn't it?

MrP

Universe ending paradox, more like.

Bannasidhe · 08-08-2012 11:41am

Nah - it's just the Old Patriarchy being repackaged as the New Feminism

Sarky · 08-08-2012 12:20pm

Sounds a little risqué.

Things youth defence hates..

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