Things youth defence hates..

magicbastarder

Dades wrote: »

You're aware that sodomy isn't compulsory, right?

you mean my dad's been lying to me all these years?

Nodin

magicbastarder wrote: »

you mean my dad's been lying to me all these years?

Worse than that, its not even a team event.

iguana

Other things YD hates> Presumably dictionaries as they have so little understanding of simple words like 'choice' as illustrated by this recent facebook exchange where a pro-choice woman, who had an abortion at 13 weeks after discovering that the baby would have Trisomy 13 and had an undeveloped brain and heart, calls for the opening of a perinatal hospice so couples who choose to go ahead with such pregnancies have the proper support for the days that their baby does live after birth and after the babies die. And a YD spokewoman pops up to berate her for inconsistency.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=478661292144204&set=a.478660958810904.119388.465176890159311&type=1&theater

Zombrex

Actor wrote: »

oldrnwisr wrote: »

Finally, it should be pointed out that all of these arguments against same-sex marriage were used to support anti-miscegenation laws in the USA in the 50s. Nobody considers them valid with regard to interracial marriages anymore so I don't see how they become any more valid when used against same-sex marriage.

Now, you were saying something about rational viewpoint?

None of those points you raised were made by me.

I believe sodomy should not be encouraged by society by legalising for it in the same way we don't legalise drugs because of the health side-effects. Do you want me to go into the rational reasons why sodomy is bad for society?

Please do, it should be good for a laugh.

There is however, the element of sodomy in a homosexual union.

There is nothing inherently wrong with sodomy. It can be performed perfectly safely without risk of disease or injury. The risks from sodomy come when the couple are not careful, but you can say that about anything.

Galvasean

As a side note, are these guys affiliated with YD?
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Family-Life/137859686237383?sk=info

NotForResale

Galvasean wrote: »

As a side note, are these guys affiliated with YD?
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Family-Life/137859686237383?sk=info

An obscure Irish group with 80,000 + likes whos most popular city is Lima

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Family-Life/137859686237383?sk=likes

maybe

lazygal

WTF is a 'culture of life'?

Sonics2k

lazygal wrote: »

WTF is a 'culture of life'?

It's what happens when you don't close the bread packaging properly, right?

NotForResale

You would think with so many likes in those months that more people would actually visit their page.



more of this again. I wonder why we need so many lobby groups like this with identical views competing.




Must be them

Nodin

lazygal wrote: »

WTF is a 'culture of life'?

You see, if theres abortion brought in - limited or otherwise - you, as a woman, will automatically be sprinting for the abortion clinic to kill babies. They may turn you away at first, because in your enthusiasm to kill babies you forgot to get pregnant, but eventually you'll get the procedure right and have the abortion. Thats the culture of death.

The culture of life is a totally positive thing, where if you want to indulge your flippant whim for an abortion - because you might not want to die in childbirth or some nonsense - you slink off to another country like a sex tourist, criminal or former bank official to do your shameful act, and don't befoul the sacred soil of Ireland with it. You then come back here and never ever ever ever ever mention it, just cry into your drink with guilt once or twice a year.

fitz0

Galvasean wrote: »

As a side note, are these guys affiliated with YD?
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Family-Life/137859686237383?sk=info

I don't think so. They are linked to a few websites

- http://www.prolife.ie/
- http://www.familyandlife.org/
- http://www.opinionviewer.com/
- http://www.irishcatholicbooks.com/

Thanks to the wonder of whois.net we can see who they are registered to. They are all registered under the Family & Life Organisation based in California and Mountjoy Square. But there's no connection to YD, they're a separate entity founded by David Manly, much smaller than YD.

EDIT: So there is a YD connection but it's old. Peter Scully, formerly of Human Life International was head of F&L back in 2000 and is a former YD member. It's a fairly tenuous connection though, I have no idea if he is still involved with any of them beyond appearing on the F&L whois.

Cienciano

I think some people are forgetting that famous bible quote on why gay people shouldn't marry. No, not the Leviticus one.
This one is direct from Jesus. Think it goes like this:
Love one another as I have loved you, except gays, I hate them.

Galvasean

NotForResale wrote: »

An obscure Irish group with 80,000 + likes whos most popular city is Lima

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Family-Life/137859686237383?sk=likes

maybe

a common friend likes that page
Thankfully it's a relative, not an actual friend. :pac::pac:

robindch

fitz0 wrote: »

[...] Human Life International [...]

The former head of HLI resigned last year amidst allegations of "sexual misconduct during an exorcism":

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1353084/Father-Thomas-Euteneuer-admits-sexual-indiscretion-exorcism.html

Euteneuer himself admitted "violating the boundaries of chastity with an adult female":

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/statement-of-fr-thomas-euteneur-setting-the-record-straight

lazygal

Nodin wrote: »

You see, if theres abortion brought in - limited or otherwise - you, as a woman, will automatically be sprinting for the abortion clinic to kill babies. They may turn you away at first, because in your enthusiasm to kill babies you forgot to get pregnant, but eventually you'll get the procedure right and have the abortion. Thats the culture of death.

The culture of life is a totally positive thing, where if you want to indulge your flippant whim for an abortion - because you might not want to die in childbirth or some nonsense - you slink off to another country like a sex tourist, criminal or former bank official to do your shameful act, and don't befoul the sacred soil of Ireland with it. You then come back here and never ever ever ever ever mention it, just cry into your drink with guilt once or twice a year.

Phew. Thank goodness for Youth Defence. I would have aborted my now two month old daughter had it not been for their assiduous culture of life stance. Crisis averted!

Pace2008

MrPudding wrote: »

Are you, by any chance, a rereg of crumilcum (or whatever his name was)?

MrP

No, but he's a re-reg of all these guys (and dozens more):

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=299273
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=377693
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=349962
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=365447
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=315373
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=23471

He appears every so often or so in a blizzard of re-reg accounts, espouses views that are way too far-right even for conservative Christians, gets banned everywhere before disappearing under the bridge again for a few months.

Nodin

lazygal wrote: »

Phew. Thank goodness for Youth Defence. I would have aborted my now two month old daughter had it not been for their assiduous culture of life stance. Crisis averted!

Yep. They recognise you function better when free of the burden of choice.

Elysian

Legal Ad Campaigns: http://redlemonade.blogspot.ie/2012/07/terms-and-conditions-tear-your-ads-apart_25.html

_GOD_

Actor wrote: »

..and I'm against sodomy.

Then don't get fúcked in the ass!

thus sayeth the Lord

Ataxia

Nodin wrote: »

There was 3 members in his organisation, afaik. They split.

There were more than 3, but yeah they split in hilarious circumstances, which you can read about here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/99028347/In-The-Area-5-Summer-2012?in_collection=3002989

A_Sober_Paddy

I saw a horrible billboard from this shower

"Abortion Tears Her Life A Part"

So this was on the dual carriageway into Limerick from Shannon Airport.

Absolutely disgusting poster, especially considering the fact that getting an abortion is already a hard enough thing to go through.

Delirium

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

I saw a horrible billboard from this shower

"Abortion Tears Her Life A Part"

So this was on the dual carriageway into Limerick from Shannon Airport.

Absolutely disgusting poster, especially considering the fact that getting an abortion is already a hard enough thing to go through.

They actually have the ad on the side of some of the Limerick buses too, and on a billboard on O'Connell street.

A_Sober_Paddy

koth wrote: »

They actually have the ad on the side of some of the Limerick buses too, and on a billboard on O'Connell street.

Absolutely disgusting, my views on abortion are complex to say the least but this approach is just horrible and could really push someone over the edge and off one of our bridges.

coffee_cake

They have them all over the place

the advertising people refuse to do anything

it is disgusting

fitz0

The one by Busaras had been mostly torn down the last time I was down that way. It looked like somebody just started tearing strips off it.

A_Sober_Paddy

bluewolf wrote: »

They have them all over the place

the advertising people refuse to do anything

it is disgusting

If the ad campaign was to result in someone taking their life, could the "Youth Defence" be charged for wrongful death or anything of the like?

coffee_cake

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

If the ad campaign was to result in someone taking their life, could the "Youth Defence" be charged for wrongful death or anything of the like?

if the advertisers wont even do anything about it, probably not
i wish

Ataxia

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

If the ad campaign was to result in someone taking their life, could the "Youth Defence" be charged for wrongful death or anything of the like?

I think the YD billboards are deliberately triggering but I don't know if the law recognises deliberate triggering as a form of assault. It would probably be a landmark case worldwide if it did.

Corkfeen

bluewolf wrote: »

They have them all over the place

the advertising people refuse to do anything

it is disgusting

Based on the post above, they may be forced to take them down because of the breach of copyright. :D I'd hate to have any of my photos misused or stolen by such groups, it shows the nasty lengths which they go to.

iguana

Well hopefully the discovery that the pictures used in the ads were used without permission will see something happen with them.