Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread II

Larbre34

Very bad luck for Roux, there must be a bit of a curse on overseas players.

Although it seems to happen a lot at all levels these days that a lad gets injured, comes back and immediately gets a far worse injury and is gone again for half a season, has to be more than coincidence at this stage

The Kearneys, O'Connell, Felix Jones, Lukey, Leamy, etc etc

molloyjh

Larbre34 wrote: »

Very bad luck for Roux, there must be a bit of a curse on overseas players.

Although it seems to happen a lot at all levels these days that a lad gets injured, comes back and immediately gets a far worse injury and is gone again for half a season, has to be more than coincidence at this stage

The Kearneys, O'Connell, Felix Jones, Lukey, Leamy, etc etc

You can't say this was anything other than pure fluke really, given that we saw clearly how and where the injury came about.

ray jay

That's horrible news for Roux.

ssaye wrote: »

Would be huge loss for them, but a swap deal with 2/3 players say Carr + Macken and Tom Sexton

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/leinster-announce-contract-extensions-and-new-signings-549630.html

The provinces don't own their players, so they can't tell players they're being transferred to another team.

Winters

I see what you are saying but there is really only one employer of pro rugby players in Ireland and if the IRFU only offer you a year in Connacht or wherever it could be more appealing to a young Irish player than heading abroad.

ssaye

ray jay wrote: »

That's horrible news for Roux.
The provinces don't own their players, so they can't tell players they're being transferred to another team.

These 3 players end their contracts in May and I am not sure we will renew all of them, that was my point if ya get me.

CIARAN_BOYLE

totallegend wrote: »

Yes, I think he'd be mad to leave. Moving elsewhere won't solve his injury problems and with O'Brien and Heaslip missing lots of games on international duty, there will always be game time at Leinster.

Think it's easy to forget how young he is because it's been two years since he burst into the senior team.

To be honest I'm not sure about that. Marshall and Murphy will be finishing the academy this year and both are impressing me more and more this year. I don't think Leinster can honestly afford to keep all three and Ryan injury proneness has to count against him.

Scioch

Just happened on this on blue magic, leinster fans best 15 of the professional era.

Prop 1
Cian Healy - 72%

Hooker
Richardt Strauss - 49%

Prop 2
Mike Ross - 40%

Lock 1
Mal O'Kelly - 33%

Lock 2
Leo Cullen - 32%

Flanker 1
Rocky Elsom - 57%

Flanker 2
Sean O'Brien - 45%

Number 8
Jamie Heaslip - 79%

Scrum Half
Eoin Reddan - 64%

Fly Half
Jonathan Sexton - 73%

Wing 1
Denis Hickie - 57%

Inside Centre
Gordon D'Arcy - 58%

Outside Centre
Brian O'Driscoll - 88%

Wing 2
Shane Horgan - 53%

Fullback
Rob Kearney - 61%

I'd have Isa over Kearney at FB personally. Rob is brilliant and all but Nacewa cant not make the team.

CIARAN_BOYLE

Scioch wrote: »

I'd have Isa over Kearney at FB personally. Rob is brilliant and all but Nacewa cant not make the team.

I'd say Isa ended up second in the vote for fullbacks and pretty high up in the vote for wingers too.

I doubt anyone considered Kearney one of the best wings of the professional era so anyone voting for Kearney voted for him as a FB while anyone voting for Isa, well some would have voted fb and some would have voted winger

Tox56

Who are the 12% who didn't vote BOD for outside centre??

molloyjh

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I'd say Isa ended up second in the vote for fullbacks and pretty high up in the vote for wingers too.

I doubt anyone considered Kearney one of the best wings of the professional era so anyone voting for Kearney voted for him as a FB while anyone voting for Isa, well some would have voted fb and some would have voted winger

Would you believe Isa didn't make my XV! I went for Kearney because he was simply immense last season and has been a part of the squad longer etc. Rocky was behind Gleeson and SOB for me too. Amazing and all as he was it was just 1 season. I went with

Healy
Strauss
Ross
Mal
Cullen (Hines is probably a better overall player but Leo's contribution can't be underestimated)
SOB
Gleeson
Heaslip
Reddan
Sexton
Hickie
Dr Phil
BOD
Shaggy
Kearney

It's amazing the players that don't make that XV though. I went with Dr Phil over Darce because he is a feckin' legend but couldn't edge out Sexton at 10. But the likes of Hines, Rocky, Darce, Isa, Fitzy and Girv probably deserve a place there too.

CatFromHue

Hmmm I'd have Dempsey and Gleeson in there I have to say.

errlloyd

Shane Byrne. Its hard to pick one, I mean being realistic this is the most successful Leinster team, so its gonna be mainly current players.

.ak

Make it a 23 man team and everyone would be happy really. A bench of (Continuing from the fan picks)...

16. Shane Byrne
17. Stan Wright
18. CJ?
19. Hines
20. Gleeson
21. Whitaker?
22. The Doc
23. Isa

.ak

Personally I'd have Fitz over Shaggy... But that's just me. Although completely understand Shaggy being a fan favourite. Who knows, if Fitzy over comes injury he may indeed become one of those 200 cap Leinster legends.

irishbucsfan

.ak wrote: »

Make it a 23 man team and everyone would be happy really. A bench of (Continuing from the fan picks)...

16. Shane Byrne
17. Stan Wright
18. CJ?
19. Hines
20. Gleeson
21. Whitaker?
22. The Doc
23. Isa

Will Green ahead of CJ!

tolosenc

Will somebody please think of Clint Newland?

thomond2006

tolosenc wrote: »

Will somebody please think of Clint Newland?

Sykes has been robbed

armchaircoach

In fairness the backline has to include all of hickey, shaggy, darce, and bod as each of them has around 60 tries to their name. I'd prob throw in Isa as fullback.

tolosenc

tolosenc wrote: »

Will somebody please think of Clint Newland?

After doing a bit of (half-arsed) research, it appears he went on to play for (and score for) South Africa A.

Wut?

CIARAN_BOYLE

tolosenc wrote: »

After doing a bit of (half-arsed) research, it appears he went on to play for (and score for) South Africa A.

Wut?

Southern Kings South Africa's 6th Super Rugby Franchise, as in it becomes a Super Rugby team next season replacing one of the old ones but it existed and had a season of playing preseason games with the other franchises for the last few years. It also competed in tournaments with international teams (Namibia Portugal) in the IRB nations cup under the tagged name South African Kings.

Not sure where he is now because he isn't in their squad for next season.

roycon

ross doesnt deserve his place there ahead of stan the man, will green and ollie le roux

.ak

roycon wrote: »

ross doesnt deserve his place there ahead of stan the man, will green and ollie le roux

Wasn't Stan a LH? Or am I getting forgetful

CIARAN_BOYLE

.ak wrote: »

Wasn't Stan a LH? Or am I getting forgetful

TH mainly but could cover LH

Glass Prison 1214

.ak wrote: »

Wasn't Stan a LH? Or am I getting forgetful

He was an ambidextrous prop but primarily a TH as I recall.

roycon

on the rare occasions when stan was fit he offered a good carrying option and a scrummaging option on both sides. ross offers an scrummaging option at tight head and an irish passport and thats about it.

durkadurka

Glass Prison 1214 wrote: »

He was an ambidextrous prop but primarily a TH as I recall.

*ambipropsterous

errlloyd

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/1128/1224327205993.html

Apparently we're after McCarthy.

This will relight some old flame wars.

padser

errlloyd wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/1128/1224327205993.html

Apparently we're after McCarthy.

This will relight some old flame wars.

Unsure how I feel about this.

On one hand I'm delighted to see him possibly get the chance to play for a top class team.

On the other hand we already have three "bordering on international quality" locks in LC, DT and DB and one "have not seen enough of him yet to make a final call" lock in Tom Denton. It strikes me that we need a "world class" lock or at least s "high international standard" and have done since Hines left. McCarthy definitely improved our strength in depth but doesn't satisfy the primary requirement.

danthefan

roycon wrote: »

on the rare occasions when stan was fit he offered a good carrying option and a scrummaging option on both sides. ross offers an scrummaging option at tight head and an irish passport and thats about it.

Ehh? Stan played nearly every game for two full seasons. And he's not better than Ross.

I would love a lock 'like' McCarthy to replace Cullen.

I would love McCarthy to stay at Connacht and be brought into the central contract system there. I reckon it would start a steady stream of potential central contracts - TOH, Marmion, Griffen, Buckley could all be in the mix within the next 3 years for Ireland caps.

conflicted