WWDC 12 - Announcements, Rumours and Everything Else

Duggys Housemate

opinion guy wrote: »

I don't think anyone really expects the 4s announcement at the WWDC.

But to be honest with you - if the stretch mockups of a 4" iphone 5 are accurate - I do think they might be losing it. The aspect ratio will be all wrong. People won't like it in comparison to android models. Of course it will sell, iphone always will - but it will sell less.

The 4s is still available, of course. For a lot of apps the aspect ratio doesn't matter i.e. list views - you just get a longer list. Unless people have hard coded pixels it may not matter at all. I bet however a lot of apps running on the 5 will run as normal, and the top space on top could be used to show some notification center, or widget. If the app has updated you can close this, if not not.

Anyways, Apple can say in their new iOS 6 - if it runs on TVs - that coders should stop hardcoding the position of their ui elements in future and update the API to help. Without giving too much away, that wold be an indication that a phone update is imminent.

Sad Professor

opinion guy wrote: »

But to be honest with you - if the stretch mockups of a 4" iphone 5 are accurate - I do think they might be losing it. The aspect ratio will be all wrong. People won't like it in comparison to android models.

Why? Most Android phones are 16:9 as well.

opinion guy

Sad Professor wrote: »

Why? Most Android phones are 16:9 as well.

Yes - most android phones with that aspect ratio are 4.3 inch screens and bigger - in absolute terms they are still wider. The smaller screen ones are are more like 4:3 to maintain the width

I also think its a mistake keeping the very large bezels. It will be physically as long as a S3 or One X/S - but with a noticeably smaller screen. If they had made the 4" screen and reduced the bezels keeping the overall length smaller I'd be less skeptical.

Anyhow - plenty of people not happy about it on macrumours.com so don't take my word for it

I also wonder aobut app compatability. Developers must be less than pleased

Duggys Housemate

We don't know the size of the bezels, do we? We've only seen the back?

opinion guy

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

We don't know the size of the bezels, do we? We've only seen the back?

I thought they had leaked parts with the bezels ? Anyhow even the back - if you know its size and knowing its a 4 inch screen you could compute the bezel size which the renderers presumably did



Weird story on macrumours now about new line of macbooks:

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/08/apple-to-introduce-third-macbook-line-with-retina-display-at-wwdc/

DubDJ

A rumour today that Apple will be releasing an SDK for the Apple TV just like we were talking about. And as one of the others said there's a lot of unannounced sessions for the week. I reckon this could be a little surprise for developers. I think we'll soon have third party apps for the ATV.

DubDJ

There wasn't any doubt but just thought I'd post and say its confirmed that iOS 6 will be announced and be the main focus of WWDC. The banners have just went up in the Moscone Centre. Photos here.

Also 9to5Mac just posted this lengthy article summing up everything to be expected at WWDC '12. It's basically everything I have at the start of this thread but in depth. However they also said theres a possibility of a new Apple app called Organise but they aren't sure whether or not this is definitely being announced.

Duggys Housemate

That 9to5mac story makes the WWDC seem dull. Doesn't explain the TBA

Sad Professor

The TBAs are the AppleTV SDK.

DubDJ

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

That 9to5mac story makes the WWDC seem dull. Doesn't explain the TBA

I only think they post stories about stuff that they have inside info on. There very good at getting info on stuff before they're even released. They won't usually post unconfirmed stuff. I realise it's a rumour site but I think they do have documents and details to back up most of their stuff. They won't post stories unless they have some sort of a hint at it. Which is probably why they won't speculate on the TBA.

DubDJ

Sad Professor wrote: »

The TBAs are the AppleTV SDK.

Hopefully

Duggys Housemate

Sad Professor wrote: »

The TBAs are the AppleTV SDK.

I hope so. I was first to bring up that theory here. However 9-5 said that was unlikely, which leaves them unexplained again. And it's a fairly trustworthy site.

Apple - it's like Kremlinology.

DubDJ

It would be funny if all they announced was a few minor tweaks to iOS 5 and labelled it iOS 6. And the rest was bull****. Well not soo funny as sad for some. For me all I'm interested in here is software updates. Hopefully my iPhone, iPad, MacBook and Apple TV will be getting some great new software improvements. Think it's why I'm so looking forward to it. Either way I won't be let down because I'll be getting iOS 6 and Mountain Lion at the very least.

Plowman

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Mimikyu

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Red Alert

I'm dreading what Mountain Lion will have in store to be honest.

Firstly, why are they so determined to put notifications everywhere? One I thing I love about the Mac (and Ubuntu to a lesser degree) is that I'm not bombarded with constant prattle from the system tray. While notifications are a great tool in iOS, I'd prefer them to be kept out of the Mac.

The main thing I'm worried about is how long will Apple keep the UNIX bits of the Mac accessible. With the direction they are going, will MATLAB, Python, LaTeX et al. be able to run at all in a few iterations? I do computational research, and I will have to find another platform if I can't run the software I want without restriction. I don't think this is going to arrive in Mountain Lion, or whatever immediately follows it. But the UNIX selling points of the Mac are already becoming less visible in marketing material. Apple has also stopped actively publicising certain other power user features like GP-GPU support, XGrid.

I'm also not a fan of the butchering of the filesystem model that Apple are now pushing. It makes sense to a degree in iOS, but the idea that documents are grouped by App rather than by project is unacceptable to anyone doing real work. Case in point, I use python scripting to print attendance lists from an OO.org spreadsheet, and I use VBA to a similar job in another project. Don't get me started on "Versions" - that is the most idiotically implemented "feature" I have seen in a while. Again, makes sense as a paradigm on an iPhone, but does not belong on a desktop.

barryd09

I would absolutley LOVE to be able to split screen my ipad and for example watch a stream on one half of the screen & maybe browse emails or twitter on the other half of the screen, PROPER multitasking imo. Likely to be a feature of future iOS versions & devices? Would it work?

opinion guy

barryd09 wrote: »

I would absolutley LOVE to be able to split screen my ipad and for example watch a stream on one half of the screen & maybe browse emails or twitter on the other half of the screen, PROPER multitasking imo. Likely to be a feature of future iOS versions & devices? Would it work?

Would love that too but can't see it happening

DubDJ

A Chinese forum has found the Developer links to Beta's for iOS 6. Links are expired so it can't be downloaded yet but i'm guessing it'll be available in 24 hours.

On another note the post says that the original iPad (first gen) won't be supported in iOS 6. Neither will the iPod Touch 3rd gen and lower. However it seems the 3GS will still get the update, which i'm surprised by. I thought the phone would be discontinued in September and be skipped for iOS 6. Bad news for iPad 1 owners, good news for 3GS owners.

Duggys Housemate

It makes sense to not support the iPad 1st gen as it is no longer on sale. The 3GS will be Apples cheap phone into the future.

Oafley Jones

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

It makes sense to not support the iPad 1st gen as it is no longer on sale. The 3GS will be Apples cheap phone into the future.

I'd say more to do with the iPad 1s capabilities rather than anything else. It always felt under powered even at launch.

Duggys Housemate

Same chip Afaik

Sad Professor

The lack of memory is the biggest problem with the iPad 1. It took a major performance hit under iOS 5. I hadn't planned to upgrade so soon, but I ended up selling my iPad 1 and getting a 2.

nulabert

I'm expecting the following:

imore
ifaster
ibigger
ilonger
iwider
ibetter

If I get all that, I won't be disappointed!!!!!

DubDJ

nulabert wrote: »

I'm expecting the following:

imore
ifaster
ibigger
ilonger
iwider
ibetter

If I get all that, I won't be disappointed!!!!!

Are we still talking about WWDC? :P

DubDJ

And the Apple Store is down!

leemaree

DubDJ wrote: »

And the Apple Store is down!

I just been to apple.com and its not

Kensington

leemaree wrote: »

I just been to apple.com and its not

DubDJ wrote:

And the Apple Store is down!

:pac:

banquo

Try to purchase something and you'll see it

opinion guy

Yup can confirm the .ie store is down

....they are doing.......s.o.m.e.t.h.i.n.g........