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Teachers and their summer holidays

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    #1682
    Rightwing
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    Armelodie wrote: »
    Is your position so week that you resort to .. :rolleyes: as a response?

    So anyway what is your occupation?

    When I hear someone mention joe duffy,,,,I know I'm wasting my time with said individual.


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    #1683
    Boombastic
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    Armelodie wrote: »
    No you sheep, the cutbacks are due to a cut in PTR. The school can't afford to put on all those classes for that period. Have you heard there is a moritorium on recruitment also? Probably not..

    If it makes you feel any better the teachers will be staying on doing rediculous Croke Park hours having buzzword bingo meetings.... Wouldn't you prefer these teachers to be teaching at this time?

    You can't be overworked if you dont have a job!

    The extra 33 hours a year ? One school was surprised that they couldn't use it for mass.


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    #1684
    The_Valeyard
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    Boombastic wrote: »
    The extra 33 hours a year ? One school was surprised that they couldn't use it for mass.


    Link to that?


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    #1685
    Boombastic
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    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    Link to that?

    Podcast todays liveline


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    #1686
    evolving_doors
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    Boombastic wrote: »
    The extra 33 hours a year ? One school was surprised that they couldn't use it for mass.

    Believe me , teachers actually want to teach but when they are told they have to have meetings for another 33 hours they will do anything to stay out of meetings.(I'm sure private sector folk agree that meetings for the sake of filling time are insulting). These 33 hrs were a way of appeasing the rabble so unions could claim that the hours worked have increased without extra pay (god forbid any students would be taught with this time).

    Would you prefer if teachers used this time to teach?


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    #1687
    Boombastic
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    Armelodie wrote: »
    Believe me , teachers actually want to teach but when they are told they have to have meetings for another 33 hours they will do anything to stay out of meetings.(I'm sure private sector folk agree that meetings for the sake of filling time are insulting). These 33 hrs were a way of appeasing the rabble so unions could claim that the hours worked have increased without extra pay (god forbid any students would be taught with this time).

    Would you prefer if teachers used this time to teach?

    Less than an hour a week meeting to discuss all the goings on in a school and to keep staff informed of new developments seems reasonable. Teachers do not work in isolation.


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    #1688
    evolving_doors
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    Rightwing wrote: »
    When I hear someone mention joe duffy,,,,I know I'm wasting my time with said individual.

    Well as you can see from Bombastics posts above the rabble is alive and welll on JOE DUFFY...

    You should ring in Rightwing as an educational expert seeing as how you are qualified in "Went to school once"..

    BTW what is your other occupation besides educational consultancy work?


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    #1689
    evolving_doors
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    Rightwing wrote: »
    When I hear someone mention joe duffy,,,,I know I'm wasting my time with said individual.

    Well as you can see from Bombastics posts above the rabble is alive and welll on JOE DUFFY...

    You should ring in Rightwing as an educational expert seeing as how you are qualified in "Went to school once"..

    BTW what is your other occupation besides educational consultancy work?


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    #1690
    Boombastic
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    Armelodie wrote: »
    Well as you can see from Bombastics posts above the rabble is alive and welll on JOE DUFFY...

    You should ring in Rightwing as an educational expert seeing as how you are qualified in "Went to school once"..

    BTW what is your other occupation besides educational consultancy work?
    Yep it's the moaning teachers platform, quite entertaining to hear how hard done by they feel


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    #1691
    evolving_doors
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    Boombastic wrote: »
    Less than an hour a week meeting to discuss all the goings on in a school and to keep staff informed of new developments seems reasonable. Teachers do not work in isolation.

    Teachers are already timetabled for meetings.


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    #1692
    Boombastic
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    Armelodie wrote: »
    Teachers are already timetabled for meetings.

    Good. Is that included in the 22 hours? Is that departmental meetings or whole school?


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    #1693
    Rightwing
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    Boombastic wrote: »
    The extra 33 hours a year ? One school was surprised that they couldn't use it for mass.

    I'd agree with teachers on this one. No point making someone do something for the sake of it, little more than window dressing imo. If it doesn't add to productivity, don't implement it.


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    #1694
    evolving_doors
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    Boombastic wrote: »
    Yep it's the moaning teachers platform, quite entertaining to hear how hard done by they feel

    I think it is you who feel hard done by, if you read the title and OP it wasn't teachers moaning. Teachers here are attempting to set the record straight from the uninformed numpties who think they know it all because they went to school.

    Ill bet you brag to your mates about how you rise teachers, when in fact our position is easy to defend except from populist nonsense spouters like yourself who are immune to logic.

    You probably havn't changed much from school then.


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    #1695
    Boombastic
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    Armelodie wrote: »
    I think it is you who feel hard done by, if you read the title and OP it wasn't teachers moaning. Teachers here are attempting to set the record straight from the uninformed numpties who think they know it all because they went to school.

    Ill bet you brag to your mates about how you rise teachers, when in fact our position is easy to defend except from populist nonsense spouters like yourself who are immune to logic.

    You probably havn't changed much from school then.


    And your inability to defend the length of holidays shows your obvious superiority and education.


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    #1696
    Rightwing
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    Boombastic wrote: »
    And your inability to defend the length of holidays shows your obvious superiority and education.

    Well in fairness, no one can defend the indefensible. ;)


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    #1697
    Red Pepper
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    Are those damned teachers still on the doss!!?? (There must be a Hitler YouTube clip for this craziness)

    They should be made build roads or break rocks or teach thick kids during their holidays.

    Our esteemed executed 1916 patriot Padraic O'Conaire would be spinning in his grave!


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    #1698
    Boombastic
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    Red Pepper wrote: »
    Are those damned teachers still on the doss!!?? (There must be a Hitler YouTube clip for this craziness)

    They should be made build roads or break rocks or teach thick kids during their holidays.

    Our esteemed executed 1916 patriot Padraic O'Conaire would be spinning in his grave!

    Did Hitler make the Jews work for 174 days a year, 22 hours a week?. .. That's inhumane. Teachers should bring their case to the European courts of human rights.


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    #1699
    Aineoil
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    1916 patriot Padraic O'Conaire???

    Padraic O'Conaire wasn't executed


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    #1700
    Rightwing
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    Peter Flynt wrote: »
    Close down the schools then.

    Certainly close down small schools.

    Which is more efficient, 1 supermarket or about 6 local corner shops?

    Any school with less than 100 pupils should face the axe.


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    #1701
    Red Pepper
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    Aineoil wrote: »
    1916 patriot Padraic O'Conaire???

    Padraic O'Conaire wasn't executed

    My point exactly - they didn't teach me enough!! I meant the teacher lad...the gay lad...


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    #1702
    Boombastic
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    Red Pepper wrote: »
    My point exactly - they didn't teach me enough!! I meant the teacher lad...the gay lad...

    The teacher who had enough time to write 26 books, 473 stories, 237 essays and 6 plays during his holidays?


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    #1703
    Aineoil
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    Red Pepper wrote: »
    My point exactly - they didn't teach me enough!! I meant the teacher lad...the gay lad...

    Shakes head
    Well on a positive note you remember something about Patrick Pearse


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    #1704
    Red Pepper
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    Aineoil wrote: »
    Shakes head
    Well on a positive note you remember something about Patrick Pearse

    Didn't they chop his head off in Eyre Square or did I get that wrong?


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    #1705
    Aineoil
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    Red Pepper wrote: »
    Didn't they chop his head off in Eyre Square or did I get that wrong?

    The statue of Pádraic O Conaire in Eyre Square was beheaded in 1999.:eek:


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    #1706
    Red Pepper
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    Aineoil wrote: »
    The statue of Pádraic O Conaire in Eyre Square was beheaded in 1999.:eek:

    Poor bastard, he didn't deserve that.


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    #1707
    Aineoil
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    Red Pepper wrote: »
    Poor bastard, he didn't deserve that.

    Maybe some people had issues with Scothscéalta while at school?:D


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    #1708
    Boombastic
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    ^^The children in class use the diversion tactic too when they don't want to discuss the topic presented


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    #1709
    Aineoil
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    Boombastic wrote: »
    ^^The children in class use the diversion tactic too when they don't want to discuss the topic presented

    I don't want to discuss the topic. I just saw something wrong on the internet.:D


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    #1710
    Red Pepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    Aineoil wrote: »
    Maybe some people had issues with Scothscéalta while at school?:D



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    #1711
    Aineoil
    Registered Users Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Aineoil


    Aineoil wrote: »
    Maybe some people had issues with Scothscéalta while at school?:D


    O Conaire wrote a collection of short stories in Irish called Scothscéalta. It used to be on the course for Leaving Cert.:)


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