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    #1232
    johnny_ultimate
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    Just got around to reading it last night, but there's a frank interview with and feature on Alexander O. Smith in the latest Edge. Fascinating insight into the often thankless jobs of translation, and the technical and practical barriers in the way. Also final few paragraphs are an inevitably grim look at the current state of affairs in the Japanese gaming industry :/


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    #1233
    Sephiroth_dude
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    Does anyone else have ragnarok odyssey ace ? I need help with the boss at the end of ch6, thanks


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    #1234
    Sephiroth_dude
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    Sephiroth_dude wrote: »
    Does anyone else have ragnarok odyssey ace ? I need help with the boss at the end of ch6, thanks

    Still need help with this, nearly impossible to find other people online.

    Also a list J'rpgs to look forward this year.

    http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2015/04/07/10-under-the-radar-jrpgs-on-the-horizon.aspx


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    #1235
    Sephiroth_dude
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    Tales of Zestiria out this autumn, gonna have to get a new ps3 hopefully in time for this :D



    http://www.gameinformer.com/games/tales_of_zestiria/b/ps3/archive/2015/04/16/first-story-trailer-highlights-english-dub-and-reveals-fall-release.aspx


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    #1236
    Sephiroth_dude
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    New trailer for Xenoblade Chronicles X

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuY4qeSXfCg



    Its out in Japan next week -_-


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    #1237
    Xenji
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    If the Wii U was not region locked, I could be playing this next week.


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    #1238
    penev10
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    About halfway through Mind-0, I think, and its very dull. The combat has one interesting element in the dual life bars, a rechargeable one for your "Persona" and a regular one for you. Your summon shields you but will leave you stunned if reduced to 0 so it becomes a (sometimes) interesting balancing act.

    Anyone who's played it - I'm at the 6th dungeon (I think) the one where
    your school has been invaded.
    Does it get any better or should I cut my losses?


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    #1239
    Xenji
    Registered Users Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    penev10 wrote: »
    About halfway through Mind-0, I think, and its very dull. The combat has one interesting element in the dual life bars, a rechargeable one for your "Persona" and a regular one for you. Your summon shields you but will leave you stunned if reduced to 0 so it becomes a (sometimes) interesting balancing act.

    Anyone who's played it - I'm at the 6th dungeon (I think) the one where
    your school has been invaded.
    Does it get any better or should I cut my losses?

    Cut your losses , it does not get better, just like Conception 2, Demon Gaze was the best game out of the three to be released.


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    #1240
    Sephiroth_dude
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    penev10 wrote: »
    About halfway through Mind-0, I think, and its very dull. The combat has one interesting element in the dual life bars, a rechargeable one for your "Persona" and a regular one for you. Your summon shields you but will leave you stunned if reduced to 0 so it becomes a (sometimes) interesting balancing act.

    Anyone who's played it - I'm at the 6th dungeon (I think) the one where
    your school has been invaded.
    Does it get any better or should I cut my losses?
    Xenji wrote: »
    Cut your losses , it does not get better, just like Conception 2, Demon Gaze was the best game out of the three to be released.


    I got stuck at the 4th dungeon I think, felt like I going round in circles o_O
    Xenji wrote: »
    If the Wii U was not region locked, I could be playing this next week.

    No doubt you'd have it finished in a week :p :pac:


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    #1241
    penev10
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    Xenji wrote: »
    Cut your losses , it does not get better, just like Conception 2, Demon Gaze was the best game out of the three to be released.

    Cheers, I've sank enough hours into it for little reward.

    Natural Doctrine is up next although the alleged learning curve is putting me off, might just go for Atelier Alesha Plus if I can clear enough space on the memory card!


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    #1242
    Sephiroth_dude
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    1 hour gameplay footage of XC


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcMkczoRMTU


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    #1243
    johnny_ultimate
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    Everything looks much faster than its predecessor, so hopefully this one isn't several hundred hours long too ;) The scale and essence of Chronicles distilled into something more approachable and much less time consuming is something I'd be all for. And fewer pointless subquests.


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    #1244
    Retr0gamer
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    I actually really like how xenoblade handled side quests. You didn't have to complete them all you just took them went exploring and they'd be completed naturally as you went. No need to return to the quest giver for a reward which was a huge help as well. It's a pity more games couldn't follow xenoblade example... As in every mmo out there.
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    #1245
    johnny_ultimate
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    The problem wasn't how they functioned, the problem was there was so ****ing many of them that they lost all meaning. Most of the sub quests in the game, at least up until the point I played, were shallow busywork, no two ways about it. Sure, you could ignore them to a certain degree, but the game nonetheless still assaults you with requests.


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    #1246
    Retr0gamer
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    As you just said you can ignore them. Now you do have to do some or else end up severely under levelled since they give the only decent Xp gains but really all you have to do is take a crap load of them Then go explore every nook and cranny in the area you are in and by the end you'll have beaten a load without even trying. If you do it that way it doesn't feel like busy work at all. The only time I ever needed to grind was for the last boss and that didn't take long at all because the game gives out substantial end game quests with huge xp rewards.
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    #1247
    Sephiroth_dude
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    Anyone know anything about Omega Quintet? its out next week for ps4


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    #1248
    Xenji
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    Sephiroth_dude wrote: »
    Anyone know anything about Omega Quintet? its out next week for ps4

    Well it has the same dress destruction as Senran Kagura, so that should tell you something, everything is based around Idols singing and dancing, so it is more of a simulation game with rpg elements.

    It makes use of the move function as well, I think it lets you make your own music videos with your own dancing.


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    #1249
    Retr0gamer
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    Sounds like it will have a complex yet intuitive battle system, a deep metaphysical story and characters with personalities as deep as their cleavage.

    I'm sold.
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    #1250
    Sephiroth_dude
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    Sounds like the hyperdimension games?


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    #1251
    Sieghardt
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    Just finished Tears to Tiara 2, utterly fantastic game, if you ever liked SRPGs like shining force it's a must-play

    The first few hours are really slow going but its incredibly worth sticking with it

    I guess now it's time to finally face that Drakengard 3 final boss again, ugh


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    #1252
    penev10
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    Sieghardt wrote: »
    Just finished Tears to Tiara 2, utterly fantastic game, if you ever liked SRPGs like shining force it's a must-play
    Have it on my "next" pile. How long is it?


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    #1253
    Retr0gamer
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    Speaking of SRPGs I started Tactics Ogre on PSP and wow is it a massive improvement if the SNES/PS1 game. It's so god damn good. Localisation is stellar as well 'There's blood on my hands. How long before it lies on my heart.'
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    #1254
    animaX
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    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Speaking of SRPGs I started Tactics Ogre on PSP and wow is it a massive improvement if the SNES/PS1 game. It's so god damn good. Localisation is stellar as well 'There's blood on my hands. How long before it lies on my heart.'

    A phenomenal remake. This is now the standard to which I hold all srpgs


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    #1255
    Sieghardt
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    penev10 wrote: »
    Have it on my "next" pile. How long is it?

    I'm at 140 hours played but I was taking the time to S Rank & Bonus clear each stage + craft items, you could probably complete it in 60-70 hours if you're just playing for the story


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    #1256
    Sephiroth_dude
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    Deception IV: The Nightmare Princess is coming west


    http://www.gameinformer.com/games/deception_iv_the_nightmare_princess/b/playstation4/archive/2015/04/30/koei-tecmo-s-sadistic-deception-iv-to-trap-new-players-on-ps4.aspx


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    #1257
    Sephiroth_dude
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    Grindtime played star ocean the story this week

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EbE3JUyn6o


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    #1258
    Retr0gamer
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    Sephiroth_dude wrote: »
    Deception IV: The Nightmare Princess is coming west


    http://www.gameinformer.com/games/deception_iv_the_nightmare_princess/b/playstation4/archive/2015/04/30/koei-tecmo-s-sadistic-deception-iv-to-trap-new-players-on-ps4.aspx

    Not even gotten around to standard deception 4 :)
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    #1259
    Sephiroth_dude
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    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Not even gotten around to standard deception 4 :)

    Ya haven't finished it myself, really fun game.


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    #1260
    Retr0gamer
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    Sephiroth_dude wrote: »
    Ya haven't finished it myself, really fun game.

    The Deception series has always been great fun and one of the few original ideas that's not been copied that's still around today. tecmo Kei are very good at supporting their niche games and the fact that this has gotten an update that was also released in the west bodes well for the series to continue.
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    #1261
    penev10
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    4 stages into Natural Doctrine and I really like it. The initiative / chaining moves system works really well when you get the hang of it. There was a lot made of the difficulty but I'm finding it no tougher than a Fire Emblem game on Hard (I'm playing it on Normal but there's an Easy mode that can be switched to at any stage). Expect to replay almost every mission but surely with SRPGS that's par for the course.

    The dialogue / translation is horrible by modern standards but there is the, now de rigueur, option for Japanese voice acting which helps.


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