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Do you go to Mass regularly?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Mass is da poop

    So no I don't


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Is actually going to mass an obligation? Can you not watch it on tv or listen on the radio or is that cheating?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭danslevent


    Thread needs a poll!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭DaNiEl1994


    Siuin wrote: »

    I say this as someone who attends services twice a week-- if my child ever said they would rather not go, I would not in a million years tell them otherwise. Faith is a wholly personal matter.

    wish i had a parent like you :P still being forced to go at the age 17 when i keep telling them i dont want to be there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Fizzlesque


    No, the whole thing gives me the creeps to be honest. Like many others, I'd go for a wedding or funeral, but the mumbling responses of 'praising the lord' (especially: 'it is right to give him thanks and praise' for some reason), make me feel very unsettled and, as I already mentioned, gives me the creeps.

    Possibly has something to do with how thoughtlessly and unquestioningly I believed all I was trained to believe as a child - scares me a bit when I think about how malleable a child's mind is and how it's the luck of the draw what beliefs are planted into our minds.

    As an adult, I had to undo so much (not only religious) stuff I'd been taught/told/programmed with as a child. Once I realised it was OK not to believe all the church/religion stuff I'd been brought up to believe, my sense of amazement that I'd ever managed to believe it all almost overwhelmed me.

    So, no. I try to stay very far away from mass.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Susie_Q


    DaNiEl1994 wrote: »
    wish i had a parent like you :P still being forced to go at the age 17 when i keep telling them i dont want to be there

    How on earth do they 'force' you? Have you tried the radical suggestion of just not going? If you don't want to go, then don't go. It's very simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Cassidy28


    Just back there now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Susie_Q wrote: »
    How on earth do they 'force' you? Have you tried the radical suggestion of just not going? If you don't want to go, then don't go. It's very simple.

    It's called respecting your parents while living at home with them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Susie_Q


    Funny, I didn't know that 'respect' meant 'do everything I tell you without question'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Susie_Q wrote: »
    How on earth do they 'force' you? Have you tried the radical suggestion of just not going? If you don't want to go, then don't go. It's very simple.

    Agreed...what is your parent going to do? Put a gun to your head? Kick you out? :confused:

    You're 17, not a child, I have a daughter not much younger than you and I would rather she was upfront about her views and stand her ground on what she wants. They might not like it but they have to accept you are your own person.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Susie_Q wrote: »
    Funny, I didn't know that 'respect' meant 'do everything I tell you without question'.

    It's called doing what ever you have too for a quite life. I'm sure we all did it when we lived at home. I definitely went to mass every Sunday when I lived at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Hilarious, Beg for thanks monkey, beg.
    For someone who foolishly insulted themselves while trying to insult everyone else, you're not really recovering well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭DaNiEl1994


    my parents are fairly old fashioned father and mother are very old, ive had the argument with my father a few times and basically if i just outright refused to go it would bring alot of awkwardness and unwanted tension between parents and i.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭Greentopia


    DaNiEl1994 wrote: »
    my parents are fairly old fashioned father and mother are very old, ive had the argument with my father a few times and basically if i just outright refused to go it would bring alot of awkwardness and unwanted tension between parents and i.

    Why not just go somewhere else when you're supposed to be at mass? never understand why parents force their kids to go to mass, the only thing it does is turn them off Catholicism.
    Which this ex-Catholic has no problem with, I think the world would be a hell of a lot better off without any religion but that's another debate...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Sketch lads, philogos is here!:pac:


  • Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Greentopia wrote: »
    Why not just go somewhere else when you're supposed to be at mass? never understand why parents force their kids to go to mass, the only thing it does is turn them off Catholicism.
    Which this ex-Catholic has no problem with, I think the world would be a hell of a lot better off without any religion but that's another debate...

    It didn't turn me off it, I go now fairly often of my own accord.

    Also you cant be going around telling people under the age of 18 to defy their parents it will just cause them hassle. Next people will be telling them to go dossing down the town as they are being "forced" to go to school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭Greentopia


    It didn't turn me off it, I go now fairly often of my own accord.

    Fair enough :)
    Also you cant be going around telling people under the age of 18 to defy their parents it will just cause them hassle. Next people will be telling them to go dossing down the town as they are being "forced" to go to school.

    I'm not telling anyone to defy their parents. I asked why didn't you just do something else if you didn't want to go to mass. Yes it's going against your parents wishes but I don't happen to think parents are always right. My parents forced me to go to mass when I was a teen against my wishes. Was that right? no I don't believe so. It had the opposite effect than what they hoped it would have.

    If people want to tell others to doss from school that's nothing to do with me. I wouldn't urge that.


  • Site Banned Posts: 116 ✭✭DERPY HOOFS


    Why do we need mass when we can talk to god telapathacally.
    I have abandoned the church but god may be there somewhere.The Jewish zombie may be up there but if porn and alcohol are banned how can heaven be fun????????

    My parents forced me to go to mass when I was a teen against my wishes. Was that right? no I don't believe so. It had the opposite effect than what they hoped it would have.
    Same her skin i know the feeling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,410 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Read a Bible if you want to get more stupid and ridiculous. Go away God freak, your kind are only to be pitied


    You just can't help yourself can you? I don't think you even realise how ignorant and insulting to me and others on this thread you have been. You just can't stand the fact that we have a different view on things to you.
    I won't say what I really think of you because I don't want to get banned from the site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭shawnee


    My son who is only 14 no longer wants to go to Mass. I go regularly and while I do have quite a few issues with the Catholic church, I still attend Mass and find the time for quite reflection worthwhile. I was brought up to attend Mass and always attended when at home. However it is a different era now , my son is far more educated than I was and in Religion , he is taught about sever different religions. When I attended school there was only one religion spoken of.
    The church has also been involved in several scandals which haven't been handled well atall. I feel that it is time to allow him to make his own decision and think it is not right to impose our religion on him. :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Galwayguy35: Don't feed the troll. It's the rule of the internet :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭Morag


    shawnee wrote: »
    I feel that it is time to allow him to make his own decision and think it is not right to impose our religion on him. :rolleyes:


    You already did impose your religion on him.

    You signed him up when he was a babe and made a promise to have him indoctrinated and made an adult member of the RC church.
    That happened when he was confirmed.

    As far as the RC church is concerned he is a fully paid up member and will be forever.

    If you really wanted him to have a real choice you would not have had him baptised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    If someone I love is having a special life event ceremony (including a funeral) in a church and invites me to attend I will go if I can. The same as I'd go to synagogue, temple, forest or registry office if they are Jewish, Muslim/Hindu/Buddhist, Pagan or non religious for the special event of a member of those religions/non-religions


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    RichieC wrote: »
    You're helping to keep ****ty sectarianism alive, so it means something to all Irish people.

    What utter nonsense.

    Him going to mass is not sustaining sectarianism.

    Personally I believe it is partition, within the 6 counties sectarianism has thrived because it plays a political role, delivers political gains for politicians. With the current set up that is probably more true than ever.

    Regardless, if you want a non sectarian society the foundation must be TOLERANCE not people ditching religion, they are entitled to faith. Him going to mass is not causing, or sustaining sectarianism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Sharrow wrote: »
    You already did impose your religion on him.

    You signed him up when he was a babe and made a promise to have him indoctrinated and made an adult member of the RC church.
    That happened when he was confirmed.

    As far as the RC church is concerned he is a fully paid up member and will be forever.

    If you really wanted him to have a real choice you would not have had him baptised.
    So effectively a piece of paper that few people look at in an office dictates your religious beliefs?

    News to me anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭jimthemental


    Today was the first Sunday I was home since August and the first time since then I was due to go pay lip service for the sake of keeping the parents happy. I told them during the week that I'm an atheist but somehow it didn't sink in. My oul fella couldn't understand why I wouldn't go this morning. I think it gets so ingrained in people that they don't even think of the time they waste on a sunday if they don't believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Regardless, if you want a non sectarian society the foundation must be TOLERANCE not people ditching religion, they are entitled to faith. Him going to mass is not causing, or sustaining sectarianism.

    Which would be true if he was going to mass based on a personally held faith but he isn't. He is going to mass because Protestants killed Catholics and is also forcing his children to go for that reason, which is sectarianism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    iguana wrote: »
    Which would be true if he was going to mass based on a personally held faith but he isn't. He is going to mass because Protestants killed Catholics and is also forcing his children to go for that reason, which is sectarianism.

    His post also says he has faith.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭Morag


    So effectively a piece of paper that few people look at in an office dictates your religious beliefs?

    News to me anyway.

    The RC considers it self to be hotel california, you can check out but you can never leave.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Sharrow wrote: »
    The RC considers it self to be hotel california, you can check out but you can never leave.
    By talking to user "X" on boards.ie user "X" automatically assumes you to be a member of his group.

    You don't think you're part of his group and don't identify as being a member of his group.

    Other people do think they're part of his group and identify as such.

    User "X" relies on boards.ie census data to tally the members of his group due to its vast size.

    In this analogy, who are the members of user X's group?


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