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Dev5976

ormond lad wrote: »

Gerards played Blackrock House 1sts on wednesday.
what exactly is the house team? Is it boarders or what exactly?
Tomorrows senior games
Terenure v Blackrock
Methody Belfast v St Marys
St. Munchin's v Crescent Comp
Rockwell v Ard Scoil Ris
and Tomorrows junior games
P.B.C. v Blackrock College
Rockwell v Ard Scoil Ris
Terenure v St Marys

The House team is their 4th and 5th Year team, not including those boys who are on the sct.

fox_1973

Dev5976 wrote: »

The House team is their 4th and 5th Year team, not including those boys who are on the sct.

In Terenure, they would be the senior seconds and thirds, each college give their own name to them

ormond lad

fox_1973 wrote: »

In Terenure, they would be the senior seconds and thirds, each college give their own name to them

thanks but after googling it and its as Dev5976 says
think its just blackrock have enough numbers to field different teams for example here - castle sides are 4th/5th years and the house sides are 6th years

fox_1973

ormond lad wrote: »

thanks but after googling it and its as Dev5976 says
think its just blackrock have enough numbers to field different teams for example here - castle sides are 4th/5th years and the house sides are 6th years

I stand corrected

Dev5976

ormond lad wrote: »

fox_1973 wrote: »

In Terenure, they would be the senior seconds and thirds, each college give their own name to them

thanks but after googling it and its as Dev5976 says
think its just blackrock have enough numbers to field different teams for example here - castle sides are 4th/5th years and the house sides are 6th years

Other way around, but right concept. Castle are the 6th year only team and House are the 4th & 5th year team.

ormond lad

Marys lost to Methody College Belfast yesterday 47-0

ormond lad

Just looking at irish age grade calender for the season.
Its only 2 weeks until the irish u18 squads meet up for their 1st training camps of the season(29th october to november 2nd)
The 2 squads will spend 2 days training in cork/limerick, and 3 days in clongowes and while in clongowes the irish youths will play the irish schools.
The irish 19s will also be in Limerick/Cork and Clongowes that week

It'll be interesting to see who and how many make each squad for these sessions

ormond lad

Games on saturday
Snr
Terenure v Rockwell
Belvedere v St Marys
CBC Cork v Crescent Comp
PBC Cork v St Munchins
Jnr
PBC Cork v St Marys

Terenure and Rockwell game should be good as nure are being tipped in Leinster and Rockwell will be very strong in Munster this year

fox_1973

ormond lad wrote: »

Games on saturday
Snr
Terenure v Rockwell
Belvedere v St Marys
CBC Cork v Crescent Comp
PBC Cork v St Munchins
Jnr
PBC Cork v St Marys

Terenure and Rockwell game should be good as nure are being tipped in Leinster and Rockwell will be very strong in Munster this year

Terenure v Rockwell is off, Terenure are now playing Casteknock away

ormond lad

fox_1973 wrote: »

Terenure v Rockwell is off, Terenure are now playing Casteknock away

Why nure rockwell game off?

Results of senior/junior development games from the last 2 weeks
http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/10461

The draws for the Leinster Schools Duff and McMullen Cup competitions took place in the Leinster Rugby office in UCD on Thursday afternoon...
http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/10504

Duff and McMullen Cups are the cups for the section A schools

Video highlights of the methody belfast v st marys game that was played last saturday
http://www.intouchrugby.com/magazine/2012/10/18/intouch-tv-presents-methodist-college-rugby-i-xv-scored-47-we-got-it-all-conversions-tries-vid-is-live-v-st-marys-0/

specttator

Anybody know ko time for CWC V Michaels Sat pm.

ormond lad

specttator wrote: »

Anybody know ko time for CWC V Michaels Sat pm.

2.30pm

JCT Friendly
20/10/12 @10.30
Belvedere College-JCT v Terenure College-JCT

SCT Friendlys
20/10/12 @12pm
Belvedere College-SCT v St.Marys College-SCT
@14.30
Clongowes Wood-SCT v St.Michaels-SCT

wrt the irish 18s/19s squads below are the michaels players who are in the irish squads
"Congratulations to Nick McCarthy, Ross Byrne, Josh Murphy, Alex Penny, Adam Leavy and James Ryan who have been selected for the Irish U18 camp over the mid term. And also to Ross Molony, Cian Kelleher, and past pupil Rory O’Loughlin who have been selected for the Irish U19 camp."

ormond lad

ormond lad wrote: »

2.30pm

JCT Friendly
20/10/12 @10.30
Belvedere College-JCT v Terenure College-JCT

SCT Friendlys
20/10/12 @12pm
Belvedere College-SCT v St.Marys College-SCT
@14.30
Clongowes Wood-SCT v St.Michaels-SCT

wrt the irish 18s/19s squads below are the michaels players who are in the irish squads
"Congratulations to Nick McCarthy, Ross Byrne, Josh Murphy, Alex Penny, Adam Leavy and James Ryan who have been selected for the Irish U18 camp over the mid term. And also to Ross Molony, Cian Kelleher, and past pupil Rory O’Loughlin who have been selected for the Irish U19 camp."

So 'nure and Castleknock drew 10-10 and Clongowes and Michaels drew 24-24
Any result from Belvedere and Marys?
Weekly report from games played up in ulster
http://www.intouchrugby.com/magazine/2012/10/21/northern-bank-ulster-schools-round-up-saturday-20th-october-2012-by-barney-mcgonigle/

Quint2010

Anyone know when the U18 Schools squad is being announced?

ormond lad

Quint2010 wrote: »

Anyone know when the U18 Schools squad is being announced?

Squads prob will be announced tomorrow
These are the players i know will be involved in the 18s schools and 19s squads. in the 19s squad are Dan Goggin, a st munchins college centre and an exile James Falconer.
Luke O Halloran(St Munchins) is in the 18s schools squad and he is a hooker

Hagz

Any news on the u19/u18 squads. Is it the sort of thing that will be announced via the website?

ormond lad

Any word on how the u18 clubs v u18 schools game went today?
Or what the 19s squad is?

thetruth_time

ormond lad wrote: »

Any word on how the u18 clubs v u18 schools game went today?
Or what the 19s squad is?

Game was only 20 mins a side for some reason. The schools won 1 try to nil in miserable conditions. Not sure why any of the squads have not been posted yet on irfu website!!

Stanza2

thetruth_time wrote: »

Game was only 20 mins a side for some reason. The schools won 1 try to nil in miserable conditions. Not sure why any of the squads have not been posted yet on irfu website!!

The clubs picked two teams out of their panel and played a game against each other before the two teams both played a half each against the schools. The first half was top drawer stuff in tough conditions the second half was good as well with the schools scoring a try towards the end. The schools were much better organised especially around the breakdown but the clubs did not lie down and the first half team pushed them all the way, putting them under real pressure when they got going. I thought that the schools would dominate and score at will. They had (I'm not 100% sure) I am told 21 Leinster players in the schools panel and the clubs were just meeting up for the first time as a group. The standard I thought was very very high in the conditions. No conversions or penalty kicks were taken to keep it flowing, ref was letting lots go.

I would not read too much into the result other than the fact that there are some serious talents in both those groups. The schools were the better side, lots of changes were made on both teams and you could see certain players moving around loads, especially in the clubs as the schools seem to know their players better. I think there was lots of positives for the coaches. This is a good year group.

thetruth_time

Stanza2 wrote: »

The clubs picked two teams out of their panel and played a game against each other before the two teams both played a half each against the schools. The first half was top drawer stuff in tough conditions the second half was good as well with the schools scoring a try towards the end. The schools were much better organised especially around the breakdown but the clubs did not lie down and the first half team pushed them all the way, putting them under real pressure when they got going. I thought that the schools would dominate and score at will. They had (I'm not 100% sure) I am told 21 Leinster players in the schools panel and the clubs were just meeting up for the first time as a group. The standard I thought was very very high in the conditions. No conversions or penalty kicks were taken to keep it flowing, ref was letting lots go.

I would not read too much into the result other than the fact that there are some serious talents in both those groups. The schools were the better side, lots of changes were made on both teams and you could see certain players moving around loads, especially in the clubs as the schools seem to know their players better. I think there was lots of positives for the coaches. This is a good year group.

Good summary. Interesting to see that the young coaches from Clongowes and Rockwell are coaching the schools. Was taken back when I saw the team being addressed at half time as they looked as young as the players, still in their 20s I would think. Brave move from the IRFU!!

ormond lad

League starts back tomorrow after midterm break
Castleknock and Newbridge lead the way in section A of the senior league and are playing each other in Castleknock while in section B Monkstown and Kings Hospital are in 1st and 2nd.
In the friendlies circuit Pres Bray play DLS Churchtown tomorrow and saturday Michaels host Belvedere, Clongowes host Terenure, Marys travel down to Tipp to face Rockwell and 'rock host PBC

ormond lad

Just saw on twitter that Marys beat Clongowes in their game today

Baltra

most of the Irish u18 schools squad that had been in camp last week is below
Nick McCarthy St Michaels
Ross Byrne St Michaels
Josh Murphy St Michaels
Alex Penny St Michaels
Adam Leavy St Michaels
James Ryan St Michaels
Luke O Halloran St Munchins
Fergal Cleary Clongowes

Darryl Morton Royal School Armagh
Jack Owens Campbell College
Josh Fullerton Campbell College
Cormac Brennan Cistercian Roscrea
Rory Moloney Cistercian Roscrea
Oisin Heffernan Cistercian Roscrea

Andy Roche Terenure
Rob Lalor Terenure
Patrick Thornton Terenure
Tim Schmidt Terenure
Harrison Brewer Terenure
Billy Dardis Terenure
Greg O Shea Crescent Comp

ormond lad

Whats with the story about school games being played at night?
Surely the schools games are about the school pupils all in attendance and if games are at evening time there might be fewer current pupils and more ex pupils.
While games in the evenings may suit more parents who wont have to take time off work to watch their sons play but it may impact the number of current pupils who attend the games

Gordon Gecko

ormond lad wrote: »

Whats with the story about school games being played at night?
Surely the schools games are about the school pupils all in attendance and if games are at evening time there might be fewer current pupils and more ex pupils.
While games in the evenings may suit more parents who wont have to take time off work to watch their sons play but it may impact the number of current pupils who attend the games

It's a tough one, because even when the matches are during the day you get a certain number of pupils skiving off the matches, but I don't think it'll affect most pupils who are passionate about their rugby. In my school there was always a bus to take 1st years to the matches so I assume the schools will run a similar thing for the late matches.

As a past pupil though I'm quite happy with it as it means I can defo get to the games. I heard somethign about a draw being made after each round is complete? Can't see how it would rectify the problem of lopsided draws. Anyone know if this is definite?

Wexfordboy89

just wondering does anyone know how gorey are getting on this year think they did fairly well last year think they won the McMullen Cup last year.how are the other if any wexfors schools getting on?

ormond lad

Wexfordboy89 wrote: »

just wondering does anyone know how gorey are getting on this year think they did fairly well last year think they won the McMullen Cup last year.how are the other if any wexfors schools getting on?

Look at the leinster website. their is regular updates on results on the development cups that gorey and the other wexford schools play in

goreyguy

Gorey won't be as good this year.

ormond lad

Gordon Gecko wrote: »

It's a tough one, because even when the matches are during the day you get a certain number of pupils skiving off the matches, but I don't think it'll affect most pupils who are passionate about their rugby. In my school there was always a bus to take 1st years to the matches so I assume the schools will run a similar thing for the late matches.

As a past pupil though I'm quite happy with it as it means I can defo get to the games. I heard somethign about a draw being made after each round is complete? Can't see how it would rectify the problem of lopsided draws. Anyone know if this is definite?

I dont agree with it as in my view it shows the branch are looking to the off the field stuff and thinking that they can get bigger crowds and more money than by hosting games during the day like they do currently. Numbers of current pupils may go down which would be a loss to the games.

A draw after every round of matches is a good idea as it may help rectify the issue of lopsided draws.
Only shame that proposals have not been made to change the competition structure.
Would love it if the comp structure was changed to give teams more games and not 1 shot and you're gone. as for all the work the players put in over the year and the previous years with training 4/5 times a week and playing 14/15 friendlies to be out of the main comp after only 70 minutes is crazy. why not change things so that some of those "friendlies" can be full blooded cup games.

ormond lad

Baltra wrote: »

most of the Irish u18 schools squad that had been in camp last week is below
Nick McCarthy St Michaels
Ross Byrne St Michaels
Josh Murphy St Michaels
Alex Penny St Michaels
Adam Leavy St Michaels
James Ryan St Michaels
Luke O Halloran St Munchins
Fergal Cleary Clongowes

Darryl Morton Royal School Armagh
Jack Owens Campbell College
Josh Fullerton Campbell College
Cormac Brennan Cistercian Roscrea
Rory Moloney Cistercian Roscrea
Oisin Heffernan Cistercian Roscrea

Andy Roche Terenure
Rob Lalor Terenure
Patrick Thornton Terenure
Tim Schmidt Terenure
Harrison Brewer Terenure
Billy Dardis Terenure
Greg O Shea Crescent Comp

The munnster players in the u18 schools and 19s squads are below
18 Schools: Cormac Blake (Crescent), Paul Kiernan (PBC), Gearoid Lyons (Crescent), Liam McMahon (Crescent), Steve McMahon (Rockwell), Liam O’Connor (CBC), Luke O’Halloran (St. Munchins), Greg O’Shea (Crescent).

19s:Max Abbott (PBC), Rory Burke (CBC), Adrian Enright (Garryowen), Ryan Foley (CBC), Daniel Goggin (St. Munchins), David Johnstone (UL Bohs), John Madigan (Dolphin), Darragh Moloney (CBC), Cormac O’Donnell (Shannon), Jack O’Donoghue (UL Bohs), Charlie Slowey (UCC).