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People who have never left Ireland, EVER!
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I find it incredible that so many Irish people have never left Ireland or hopped on a plane especially younger people. I mean we laugh at Americans for not having passports but our island is hardly a continent.
My grandparents drove over to Turkey to pick up my uncle when he was working on a summer college trip just for a drive, the uncle preferred Turkey as an adventure instead of the usual J1 visas to USA. That was the 70s.
Don't get around myself too much these days but definitely at least twice a year to europe. Trip around the world made me skint 2 years ago. Best trip abroad and one of the best times in my life was 14 school exchange trip to France. I was born abroad been abroad almost every year of my life. Its not exactly hard. THe USA and Uk are a must because of their history and culture and influence in the world and specifically us. Its just ignorant not to go their since we watch their football, movies listen to their music read their books and ultimately we bitch about them.
We only live once oh but I forget about the eternity that awaits us with Jesus lots to do then cos like heaven so exists ( Sarcasm meter off the charts
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Some people see travel as a lot of (usually) unessential hassle, while we may only live once, some people, prefer to live a hassle free life.I find it incredible that so many Irish people have never left Ireland or hopped on a plane especially younger people. I mean we laugh at Americans for not having passports but our island is hardly a continent.
My grandparents drove over to Turkey to pick up my uncle when he was working on a summer college trip just for a drive, the uncle preferred Turkey as an adventure instead of the usual J1 visas to USA. That was the 70s.
Don't get around myself too much these days but definitely at least twice a year to europe. Trip around the world made me skint 2 years ago. Best trip abroad and one of the best times in my life was 14 school exchange trip to France. I was born abroad been abroad almost every year of my life. Its not exactly hard. THe USA and Uk are a must because of their history and culture and influence in the world and specifically us. Its just ignorant not to go their since we watch their football, movies listen to their music read their books and ultimately we bitch about them.
We only live once oh but I forget about the eternity that awaits us with Jesus lots to do then cos like heaven so exists ( Sarcasm meter off the charts)0 -
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It hasnt always been as relatively cheap to travel, and there are sometimes, as you say, more than money stopping people travel.
Some people don't have that need to see places outside of Ireland and some would probably find it more relaxing to take a few days off work and relax, rather than get involved in the whole hassle that travel can be.
In other words people are narrow minded enough not to want to experience the world. It is the best thing we have to see, you get one life so make what you want of it...
And if you see travel as hassle well that says alot about you... wonder how you get through life, everyday must be excrutiating for you
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rockdrummer4 wrote: »In other words people are narrow minded enough not to want to experience the world. It is the best thing we have to see, you get one life so make what you want of it...
And if you see travel as hassle well that says alot about you... wonder how you get through life, everyday must be excrutiating for you
Why would you call that "narrow minded"? People who havent travelled are narrow minded?
Some people don't like traveling abroad, they dont like the thoughts of the airport, security, delays, flying, a different culture/language. It doesn't appeal to them.
You said it yourself, you have one life, make what you want of it. You dont have to travel to make the most of life. Again extrapolating the logic, you need to experience everything that is possible in life to have a great life? Is that your thought on it?
We have a country here, that has scenery that is as good or on par with anything around the world, we have culture, we have some fine people and characters and we have plenty to do. It doesn't have the weather, yeah I get that. We have people living here now from all over the world. We have a longer and a more varied human history than the most popular countries that the Irish tend to travel to (US, Australia, NZ, Canada)
The Irish people, include those openminded world travellers tend to knock what we have and not realise how good it is. The grass is always greener elsewhere.0 -
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Get off your high horse. Seriously.
I've been all over the world in the past few years. I've probably seen as much as you or anyone else has. Has it significantly altered my mind - has it fcuk.
The experiences I have involving other people and the lessons I have learned along the way are what has altered my thinking and you don't need to travel far to experience that. You dont have to ski down a mountain, dive on a reef or see a rainforest in the flesh to change your way of thinking. Thats just "seeing" things.
I've spoken to people from all over the world, people who live here, I have friends as diverse as any, I don't need to travel to get that.
Some of these people you speak of are as interested in the rest of the world as you, just not in travelling there. They are probably more interested in their local "bubble" as well as anyone who has traveled.
You don't need to feel sorry for me and "people like me", I am perfectly happy with my life, with my family and friends and access to as much information as about any remote location as I need. I am comfortable in the knowledge that I don't need to travel to feel "enlightened" but I can appreciate why people would want to travel lots.
As far as a 19 year old is concerned. I see no reason why it is strange or weird that one would not have left this country YET but would understand why other people who are older haven't left either.
What is more narrow minded than not appreciating the basic fact that everyone is different, with different motivators and intentions?
There ya go, so you have travelled, well done... Im happy for you now
The problem I see is that people who havent travelled dont know what their missing... its a pity, but as you say people are different.0 -
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rockdrummer4 wrote: »There ya go, so you have travelled, well done... Im happy for you now
The problem I see is that people who havent travelled dont know what their missing... its a pity, but as you say people are different.
You and a few others have made this point that people who haven't traveled don't know what they are missing. The logic doesn't add up.
Apply it to almost any other scenario and its as daft as anything.0 -
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rockdrummer4 wrote: »Yes of course its narrow minded, they just like their own little bubble and are not interested in the rest of the world !! Do we have coral reef, do we have mountains you can ski on, do we have deserts, rainforest god the list goes on and on, cant believe you said that .... i feel sorry for you and people like that...
Its such a pity that you cant open your mind and want to experience all of this. This is where ignorance arises, when you dont understand other places, cultures etc...
Just dont belive that people like this still exist :0
honey, just because people haven't seen the "mona lisa" painting doesn't mean they don't know anything about Leonardo da Vinci. Just because somebody hasn't walked on the sahara desert it doesn't mean they know nothing about deserts, just because somebody didn't get a guided tour through a tourist part of a rainforest, does not mean they know nothing about it.
don't you know that READING is what broadens the mind? not walking through sand or looking at a picture on a wall - next time you take a week to sit by a pool, bring a good book on the world - you might learn something about what country you are actually visiting, rather than thinking of what cocktail bar you might visit that night to show off your tan.
and honey, remember, a week in tenerife or some such place, does not actually count as a "broadening of the mind holiday"0 -
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fishy fishy wrote: »honey, just because people haven't seen the "mona lisa" painting doesn't mean they don't know anything about Leonardo da Vinci. Just because somebody hasn't walked on the sahara desert it doesn't mean they know nothing about deserts, just because somebody didn't get a guided tour through a tourist part of a rainforest, does not mean they know nothing about it.
don't you know that READING is what broadens the mind? not walking through sand or looking at a picture on a wall - next time you take a week to sit by a pool, bring a good book on the world - you might learn something about what country you are actually visiting, rather than thinking of what cocktail bar you might visit that night to show off your tan.
and honey, remember, a week in tenerife or some such place, does not actually count as a "broadening of the mind holiday"
HONEY knowing and experiencing are 2 very different things aswell Try and describe the mona lisa in a book? HONEY 0 -
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fishy fishy wrote: »i did that once - by the time I was finished booking my "free flight" it was 80 euro, and that was BEFORE i had to travel to the airport.
next:D
Aint too bad, how much is a return trip from dub - cork on the train nowadays - 37 each way? U pay 80 to go abroad, I think thats a decent deal 0 -
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fishy fishy wrote: »honey, just because people haven't seen the "mona lisa" painting doesn't mean they don't know anything about Leonardo da Vinci. Just because somebody hasn't walked on the sahara desert it doesn't mean they know nothing about deserts, just because somebody didn't get a guided tour through a tourist part of a rainforest, does not mean they know nothing about it.
don't you know that READING is what broadens the mind? not walking through sand or looking at a picture on a wall - next time you take a week to sit by a pool, bring a good book on the world - you might learn something about what country you are actually visiting, rather than thinking of what cocktail bar you might visit that night to show off your tan.
and honey, remember, a week in tenerife or some such place, does not actually count as a "broadening of the mind holiday"
BTW - dont think you can learn everything from a book, of course reading is very good, but dont limit yourself to that, their so much more out there for ya - go experience 0 -
rockdrummer4 wrote: »HONEY knowing and experiencing are 2 very different things aswell Try and describe the mona lisa in a book? HONEY
ever hear of a picture book?? sheesh, and you calling people that don't travel narrowminded?
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rockdrummer4 wrote: »BTW - dont think you can learn everything from a book, of course reading is very good, but dont limit yourself to that, their so much more out there for ya - go experience
ah don't be worrying about me experiencing stuff, I'd say going by your posts I could run rings around ya, either here or in any other country. :P
although I did get a few laughs out of your posts.0 -
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fishy fishy wrote: »ever hear of a picture book?? sheesh, and you calling people that don't travel narrowminded? OK, you have your book and I prefer to see the real thing....
No point in trying to convince you...0
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