People who have never left Ireland, EVER!

fishy fishy

i'd say don't give up your day job

youreadthis

flash1080 wrote: »

There's plenty of excuses for someone to not travel to England, the place is a ****hole, and the only thing worse than the place is the people.

Aren't you a delight.

BunShopVoyeur

Rabies wrote: »

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

Not everyone has the luxury of foreign holidays and at 19 while it may be unusual, I wouldn't consider it odd

Get off the recession train.

**** like that is ruining AH.

Air travel across europe has been very cheap since the mid 90's.
It still is.

There is no excuse for someone to not travel to even England. Take a ferry instead of flying.

It is odd and unusual that someone would not have traveled out of Ireland by the time they're 19-20.

You don't need to be rich or have a lot of money in the bank to go over seas for a weekend.

So somebody should get on a flight to England so as not to be seen as odd or unusual by yourself? People can live their lives how they want to and if they're happy to stay where they were born and have their holidays here, who are you to tell them that that's not alright?

silly

Some people don't feel the need to leave the country. There's nothing odd about their own personal choice.
To suggest someone is odd for "having no excuse " for not traveling to England is fairly odd if you ask me.
What if they don't WANT to go to England?

crapmanjoe

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

My maternal grandfather lived all his 74 years without ever leaving this island. Back then it was quite a common occurrence for rural types who were left the family farm. Nobody had the time, money or inclination for travel.

Yeah my grandparents with to the UK in the 70's for a week and never left Ireland since or before.

I know it was a way of life but trapped on this island for your entire life is my idea of a nightmare.

Fluorescence

silly wrote: »

Some people don't feel the need to leave the country. There's nothing odd about their own personal choice.
To suggest someone is odd for "having no excuse " for not traveling to England is fairly odd if you ask me.
What if they don't WANT to go to England?

Travel somewhere else?

silly

fluorescence wrote: »

silly wrote: »

Some people don't feel the need to leave the country. There's nothing odd about their own personal choice.
To suggest someone is odd for "having no excuse " for not traveling to England is fairly odd if you ask me.
What if they don't WANT to go to England?

Travel somewhere else?

K, let me rephrase. What if they don't WANT to travel out of the country. There's nothing odd about it.

Cedrus

flash1080 wrote: »

There's plenty of excuses for someone to not travel to England, the place is a ****hole, and the only thing worse than the place is the people.

"and de beer is only terrible and dey kilt all my ancestors in de famine and sure wasn't that where cromwell came from"

Fluorescence

silly wrote: »

K, let me rephrase. What if they don't WANT to travel out of the country. There's nothing odd about it.

Just a little closed-minded to think you can see it all in your own country.

ash23

My first time abroad was when I was 25.

We never went as kids because there were too many of us. Left school and went to college and any money I earned went on that. Then I had a kid and all my money went on that. Finally had a week in Spain which (other than the weather) was crap enough.

Been to England a few times since to visit my sister who moved there but haven't really been able to afford much else since that.
Hopefully this year I might get to go somewhere else but if not I'll be 30 and a few trips to my sisters house in the UK and a week in Spain will be the extent of my travelling.

BunShopVoyeur

fluorescence wrote: »

silly wrote: »

K, let me rephrase. What if they don't WANT to travel out of the country. There's nothing odd about it.

Just a little closed-minded to think you can see it all in your own country.

It's a little closed minded to think that everybody has the urge to travel abroad.

Zebra3

starch4ser wrote: »

I know a few people from Dublin who've never been abroad and they genuinely think that Dublin is one of the world's major cities.

I've never met anyone from Dublin who hasn't been abroad and I've never heard anyone say Dublin is one of the world's major cities.

Fluorescence

BunShopVoyeur wrote: »

It's a little closed minded to think that everybody has the urge to travel abroad.

I know everyone has different tastes etc, but I still think a little bit of traveling is something everyone should do at some point.

I never particularly had the urge to either, but in the last year or so reading up on different cultures has gotten me very curious and genuinely interested in seeing those places and meeting those people. So people can change

fungun

years ago we picked up a ~70 yr old hitchhiker near Ballyconneely in Connemara...he asked us 'Is Dublin big?' and thinking to give him perspective we asked him what was the biggest place he had ever been, suggesting Galway. He said no, but he had gone to Clifden once.

Even as a child, I was amazed that someone could have never seen anywhere bigger than Clifden in their entire life.

It shows how much the world has changed that something like that which would have been fairly common is now treated as amazing.

ash23

I find it ironic that many people I know simply cannot comprehend my lack of worldwide travel but most have not been to places like the Cliffs of Moher or the Aliwee Caves, Giants Causeway etc.

oppenheimer1

homerjay2005 wrote: »

foreign holidays are not a luxury for f*ck sake. i booked 4 flights with ryanair last week which cost less than a return train ticket (and also the cost of driving it) from dublin to cork.

even people on the dole saving 10 quid a week can afford to go on one holiday a year.

Really... so you think the cost of a foreign holiday is limited to just the price of the flight?? Interesting:rolleyes:

Fluorescence

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

Really... so you think the cost of a foreign holiday is limited to just the price of the flight?? Interesting:rolleyes:

You can stay in a hostel for as little as €12 per night Food is dirt cheap too if you buy from supermarkets and not restaurants. A short trip in Europe can work out quite reasonably.

Jelly2

ash23 wrote: »

I find it ironic that many people I know simply cannot comprehend my lack of worldwide travel but most have not been to places like the Cliffs of Moher or the Aliwee Caves, Giants Causeway etc.

This is very true. I have travelled abroad quite a lot, and lived abroad for a good while, and enjoyed it (most of it anyway). But what always surprises me is the number of Irish people who have not explored their own country. In my experience, it's extremely common. I have friends who have barely been out of their own county, quite often only visiting the main town in another county for a weekend...usually Waterford, Cork or Kilkenny. And I don't mean people from rural areas necessarily, it's just as common amongst Dubliners that I know. I don't think less of them for it, but I do wonder how you can live in a country with interesting people and places just a drive or bus trip away and not want to meet and explore. One friend I know who lives in Wicklow has never been in the Wicklow mountains!
When I lived abroad, this lack of interest in seeing one's own country was not uncommon amongst friends either, so I do not think that is necessarily a trait exclusive to Irish people...

oppenheimer1

fluorescence wrote: »

You can stay in a hostel for as little as €12 per night Food is dirt cheap too if you buy from supermarkets and not restaurants. A short trip in Europe can work out quite reasonably.

Whats the point in travelling if you don't eat out or go see and do things? All these things cost money. You may as well stay at home if all you're going to do is sit in the hostel.

I'm not saying it costs a lot, but its easy to see why someone who is 19 years old may not have had the means or opportunity to travel

Roadtrippin

I have a counter question for you: How could it not affect your world view if you have never been abroad?

It may not necessarily mean you know nothing about the rest of the world but I do think travelling or living abroad for a while changes your outlook on a lot of things, and mostly to the better.

Fluorescence

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

Whats the point in travelling if you don't eat out or go see and do things? All these things cost money. You may as well stay at home if all you're going to do is sit in the hostel.

I'm not saying it costs a lot, but its easy to see why someone who is 19 years old may not have had the means or opportunity to travel

You can walk around and explore the cities, much as you might do if you were free for a few hours at home :P Yeah, money's great to get you into places and see the museums, theatres etc. You can do plenty of free stuff though too.

2 stroke

I used to know a retired truck driver from Dublin. He had spent most of his life driving, across Europe & Asia and could tell the most amazing stories of his journeys. The guy had never been past newlands cross before he was 70. He could give directions to almost anywhere in europe except Portlaoise.

Fr D Maugire

I dont think anybody has to travel abroad, especially if they are not interested but it is something different. Some people are perfectly happy in their own world, sometimes ignorance is bliss.

My father had never been aboad until his 50s and always claimed that there was nowhere like Ireland. Ironically, almost all the family are now overseas so he has been abroad a few times now and he has seen there is many places as beautiful as Ireland. I know he went to the lake district in the UK with family and loved it.

He has also had a few surprises brought to his own home which again he would never have experienced if his children hadnt travelled. It has definitely opened his mind a little. I also know my father would have loved some of the places I visited.

I love travelling and have travelled extensively and would feel that I had missed out if I hadnt travelled. However, I think it is ridiculous that a lot of people have never travelled in Ireland or even in their own County. One of my favourites things to do is to bring people on Tours of my home County. There are many fantastic places but yes the weather is ****.

jetsonx

Sure Enda Kenny only left Ireland for first time last year himself to go to some meeting in Germany.

walrusgumble

FinnLizzy wrote: »

dirtyden wrote: »

Where have you been OP? How has it impacted your world view?

I was not abroad until I was 21, my first trip away was to the USA. I have travelled quite a bit since then, worked abroad for extended periods I dont think my world view has changed significantly.

Your post does seem quite condescending. The fact that you were expecting responses like this appears to indicate that you intended it to be so.

How would I know how it would affect my world view? I can't un-visit these countries. I've been to America once and various places in Europe. The question was "And does it affect their worldview?", from an outside perspective.

I was expecting responses that call me out for being a snob because I may come across as one. I never owned an Xbox, would I wouldn't consider someone being condescending for owning one, and questioning my lack of ownership of one.

And I'm not being condescending, I just want to break the chain of recession threads on AH.

Some of the reasons for the lack of travel was due to recession and lack of money. How did you think that an interesting post was a break from recession discussion?

The question on how travel has impacted one's world view is seen to be condescending.Maybe it was not intended but many could be forgiven to believe that that was the case.

My grandpa's,like many men of the 1950's went to work in England.work and no more.he did no travelling for reasons many pointed out.but he belived in education,was fascinated by eastern Europe those commies,and at least realised that the world did not end or start in western ireland. Remember,until the 1990's travel often meant one way tickets and not out of lifestyle change.you know that it is a sensitive issue

walrusgumble

jetsonx wrote: »

Sure Enda Kenny only left Ireland for first time last year himself to go to some meeting in Germany.

Wow, and he was once the minister for tourism. Some gig without having to travel to expo's

Dudess

I like going on foreign holidays, including long holidays, but I've never had any interest in going abroad to live, just for the sake of it. That might sound dismissive of those who do, but it's not meant that way - I know plenty of people do want to live abroad just to experience it, but I'd personally only do so out of necessity, rather than merely to go travelling. I'm a home-bird no question about it. And it's not because I think Ireland's amazing or anything, but it's home - and where those I'm closest to are.

Lone Stone

I was 28 when i had my first holiday thats because ive always been **** poor growing up

humberklog

fluorescence wrote: »

You can stay in a hostel for as little as €12 per night Food is dirt cheap too if you buy from supermarkets and not restaurants. A short trip in Europe can work out quite reasonably.

That sounds like hell on earth. Even if it was a pretty place on earth, those conditions would create a mini version of hell for me.

Dudess

Yeah I couldn't handle backpacking around Asia/South America - I'd be miserable.