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Girl accuses lad of raping her, lad ends up murdered.

  • 02-03-2012 12:48am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Creamsoda


    http://www.kerryman.ie/news/teen-girl-i-lied-that-stephen-lyne-raped-me-3034806.html
    KILLARNEY teen Stephen Lyne was stabbed and killed because of a false claim of rape that had been levelled against him by a teenage girl, Tralee Circuit Criminal Court has heard.

    On Tuesday the trial of Estonian national Martin Ollo, who is facing charges linked to the death of Mr Lyne in June 2009, heard from witness Jessica Klok who admitted lying about being raped by Stephen Lyne.

    The trial has heard that Shane Regan, who has since died, had stabbed and killed Stephen Lyne in retaliation over the rape allegation made by Jessica Klok.

    Miss Klok (18) admitted in court that she had made up the rape allegation against Stephen Lyne and that she had "communicated" that lie to Shane Regan.

    Hope to she ends up in jail for this too. It's a disgrace that this happened. She has just as much fault as the fella who stabbed him.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    It's terrible, but is it as bad as posting a link to a news story without quoting the article?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭milehip1


    Creamsoda wrote: »
    http://www.kerryman.ie/news/teen-girl-i-lied-that-stephen-lyne-raped-me-3034806.html

    Hope to she ends up in jail for this too. It's a disgrace that this happened. She has just as much fault as the fella who stabbed him.

    unlikely seeing as she was 15 at the time,
    seem like a nice bunch of youths all in all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    She deserves life in prison.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    There's nothing more disgusting than a false allegation of that nature because unfortunately the 'no smoke without fire' thought is first nature for a lot of people.

    She didn't take it upon herself to murder the lad, so I'm not going to completely blame her for that, but there is definitely some blood on her hands and she should pay for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭booboo88


    Why the hell isn't she on trial? For manslaughter....at the very least.
    You falsely acuse someone of raping you, in my eyes you're as bad as any rapist!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    That article is a nightmare to read

    Looks like the paragraghs were copied and pasted all over the place and some sections get repeated

    Took me about three attempts to read it all :o

    Post one now has a good summary, better then the Kerryman full article


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    booboo88 wrote: »
    Why the hell isn't she on trial? For manslaughter....at the very least.!

    Probably because she didn't commit manslaughter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Creamsoda


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    That article is a nightmare to read

    Looks like the paragraghs were copied and pasted all over the place and some sections get repeated

    Took me about three attempts to read it all :o

    Yeah it badly written (typical Irish journalism) but you get the jist of it.
    Basically girl accuses boy of rape. Boy then gets stabbed to death for rape he didn't commit. Girl seems to get away with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭booboo88


    Probably because she didn't commit manslaughter.

    conspiracy to commit...what did she expect by accusing someone of raping her?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Creamsoda


    Probably because she didn't commit manslaughter.

    But she caused it by making false accusations.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭AngryBollix


    What do you do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Zen65


    One might think an "incitement to cause hatred" charge would be appropriate here? Or maybe that charge only applies when the incitement is based on race, religion etc?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    *sits and waits for the posts calling for the girl to be actually raped now, as that would learn her*

    *puts kettle on*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Creamsoda


    It's terrible, but is it as bad as posting a link to a news story without quoting the article?

    Well seeing as you have over 18000 post in less than 5 years I'm guessing you have plenty of free time to take an extra few seconds to click on a link without it having any real effect on your life.


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    Sindri wrote: »
    *sits and waits for the posts calling for the girl to be actually raped now, as that would learn her*

    *puts kettle on*

    *flicks your kettle off*

    "Go find something better to do!"

    *Flicks light switch on and off*

    "fight! fight! fight!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 GrafenPills


    That is bloody terrible :mad:
    She should get prison time. A person died because of her lie.

    Lets dig deeper, why would she say he raped her in the first place? he wasnt interested in her? she hated him?

    Some evil in this world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    Maybe she wishes he raped her cos I read how 8 out o 10 raped have the baby regardless, hmmm.. fùckd if I'm pondering that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭johnners2981


    Hope she goes to jail cause not only did her lie end up with someone getting murdered but it might make people question genuine rape victims


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Creamsoda wrote: »
    But she caused it by making false accusations.

    Nothing a 3rd party does causes anything, we all bear responsibility for our actions

    We all have free thought and responsibility for our actions.

    Poor, poor lad who thought he had retribution has since died. How wrong was he?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    I hate that, chumps that act on manipulative bitter bitches' whim and fancy. And I aint talkin bout the dead guy, who denied her


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭Vicar in a tutu


    Women like her make my blood boil :mad: ruthless! poor fella's now dead over her sick lies, hope she's put in jail herself... and is made some obese ladies bitch :mad: girls like that have the power to give the rest of us an awful name:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,064 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    LH Pathe wrote: »
    Maybe she wishes he raped her cos I read how 8 out o 10 raped have the baby regardless, hmmm.. fùckd if I'm pondering that

    Did you really read that or just make it up.


    Seriously, 8 out of 10 have the baby. Because when you get raped there's always a baby. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    I read it. Past-tense. And delivered in in typical cryptic semi-half concious read between the lines fashion. And obviously I am referrin to that ones that did conceive, chose to retain sure jaysus did they even put up a fight at all is it not that they just 'like it rough'.

    .. anyways what; i don't like this thread. Rape threads are not my scene am a novice. Goodbye...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,984 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    K-9 wrote: »
    Nothing a 3rd party does causes anything, we all bear responsibility for our actions

    We all have free thought and responsibility for our actions.

    Poor, poor lad who thought he had retribution has since died. How wrong was he?

    "Poor poor lad"? Better to save your sympathy for the guy who was stabbed to death after being accused in the wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    "Poor poor lad"? Better to save your sympathy for the guy who was stabbed to death after being accused in the wrong.

    He was being sympathetic to the guy who died? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,064 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Blatter wrote: »
    He was being sympathetic to the guy who died? :confused:
    He guy who committed the murder has since died. Which was who he was refering to.

    Poor lad my arse. He murdered somebody falsely accused.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Mellor wrote: »
    He guy who committed the murder has since died. Which was who he was refering to.

    Poor lad my arse. He murdered somebody falsely accused.

    Ah right, didn't know the guy who had committed the murder had died since. Assumed he was talking about the guy that was murdered.

    Agree, I've no pity for him whatsoever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭talkinyite


    I'd wish both of them would haunt her for the rest of her days but since someone said she was 15 at the time I don't know... she mightn't have understood the severity of her words. Tragic story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Tomk1


    Just wondering how the 2nd fellow died, did he commit suicide, out of guilt.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Blatter wrote: »
    Ah right, didn't know the guy who had committed the murder had died since. Assumed he was talking about the guy that was murdered.

    Agree, I've no pity for him whatsoever.

    Agreed, I was wrong, no pity for people who seek retribution without knowing all the facts.

    I'm on the wrong board, this is AH isn't it? AH is the board for retribution without knowing all the facts?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,779 ✭✭✭up for anything


    Creamsoda wrote: »
    Well seeing as you have over 18000 post in less than 5 years I'm guessing you have plenty of free time to take an extra few seconds to click on a link without it having any real effect on your life.

    Get back in your box, dearie. Nothing worse than someone commenting on somebody else's post count and free time. :rolleyes:
    LH Pathe wrote: »
    Maybe she wishes he raped her cos I read how 8 out o 10 raped have the baby regardless, hmmm.. fùckd if I'm pondering that

    Good idea to back out of the thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,922 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Tomk1 wrote: »
    Just wondering how the 2nd fellow died, did he commit suicide, out of guilt.

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/knifemurder-rape-claim-a-disgusting-lie-jury-hears-3034528.html
    He died in Tralee in 2010, aged 18, in an unrelated incident after a fall in a house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭Greentopia


    Tragedy all round really. Definitely should be legal consequences for what that girl did, though I can't think how one would catagorise it.

    To falsely accuse a guy of rape is unconscionable and she should be punished for it, especially considering what happened to that poor chap as a result.

    Plus in a country where women who are raped are treated badly by the justice system with only a dismal 7pc of rape cases reported to the Gardai ever resulting in convictions, false reporting like this does no favour to genuine victims and undermines society's and the judicial system's understanding and support for them. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭Greentopia


    Mellor wrote: »
    Did you really read that or just make it up.


    Seriously, 8 out of 10 have the baby. Because when you get raped there's always a baby. :rolleyes:

    Reeks of completely made up BS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭Greentopia


    LH Pathe wrote: »
    I read it. Past-tense. And delivered in in typical cryptic semi-half concious read between the lines fashion. And obviously I am referrin to that ones that did conceive, chose to retain sure jaysus did they even put up a fight at all is it not that they just 'like it rough'.

    :mad: Are you ****ing serious?? victim blaming?? you think that women who are raped don't do everything possible to stop it happening to them, and sure it's not really rape anyway-they just "like it rough"?

    FFS, I've heard it all now...:mad: what a vile, pig ignorant, stupid and repulsive thing to say.
    LH Pathe wrote: »
    .. anyways what; i don't like this thread. Rape threads are not my scene am a novice. Goodbye...

    Then why did you post here? oh yeah, because you wanted to post your uninformed, misogynistic sh1te here.

    Think I'd better put this thread on ignore lest my head explodes after that.
    Or I get a ban for saying what I really think of people who have such neanderthal views.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭Curva Sud


    Bitch should be hung !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭gamgsam


    Greentopia wrote: »
    Or I get a ban for saying what I really think of people who have such neanderthal views.

    Please do not insult the neanderthals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    dlofnep wrote: »
    She deserves life in prison.

    Agreed. People like this make it very hard for ACTUAL rape victims to come forward, which is hard enough to do, given their trauma. She should get 10 years minimum. But probably won't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    Creamsoda wrote: »
    It's terrible, but is it as bad as posting a link to a news story without quoting the article?

    Well seeing as you have over 18000 post in less than 5 years I'm guessing you have plenty of free time to take an extra few seconds to click on a link without it having any real effect on your life.

    No whats worse about that are the 6 idiots that thanked him.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Tomk1 wrote: »
    Just wondering how the 2nd fellow died, did he commit suicide, out of guilt.

    Maybe the girl told him he had raped her too and he went mad at himself and started stabbing himself aswell?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Reloc8


    Tragic stuff.

    People do awful things to each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    She's worse than the guy that did the stabbing IMO. Yeah he's a total scumbag, or was thankfully, but she orchestrated the entire thing that wrecked three peoples lives aswell as her own. Yet she walks away scot free. If the other guy is ebing charged, why isn't she. **** her age, she was old enough to be an evil manipulative little cu*t, she can do the 30 years she deserves. The only problem with charging her is it might end up working against guys falsely accused in future when little ****s like her stick to their stories to the bitter end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I fùcking hate these scumbag women. I came across a seroius amount of girls who flung around the rape and man-beater claim like confetti only to later admit they were lying to get one up in an argument.

    Unfortunately, this was an extreme case of what the result would be. She should have the book thrown at her and repeatedly bounced off her head.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    K-9 wrote: »
    Nothing a 3rd party does causes anything, we all bear responsibility for our actions

    We all have free thought and responsibility for our actions.

    Poor, poor lad who thought he had retribution has since died. How wrong was he?
    Of course third parties effect us


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    she should be done on the grounds of conspiracy to commit murder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    They should lock her up and throw away the key


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭booboo88


    talkinyite wrote: »
    I'd wish both of them would haunt her for the rest of her days but since someone said she was 15 at the time I don't know... she mightn't have understood the severity of her words. Tragic story.

    Thats a pathetic excuse, at 15 although you might be naive, you still have a bit of cop on to realise you don't accuse people of things they didnt do.


    I feel bad for the parents of the of Stephen Lynne, theyve lost their son cause of some manipulative b!tch


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,763 Mod ✭✭✭✭ToxicPaddy


    Greentopia wrote: »
    Tragedy all round really. Definitely should be legal consequences for what that girl did, though I can't think how one would catagorise it.

    To falsely accuse a guy of rape is unconscionable and she should be punished for it, especially considering what happened to that poor chap as a result.

    Plus in a country where women who are raped are treated badly by the justice system with only a dismal 7pc of rape cases reported to the Gardai ever resulting in convictions, false reporting like this does no favour to genuine victims and undermines society's and the judicial system's understanding and support for them. :(

    I have to agree here. A girl from my home town has made 3 x false allegations of rape in the past 10 years against various guys. She has yet to face any charges of any kind. Its all kind of quietly brushed aside and hushed up and the guys who had the allegations against them, who's lives went to hell (including one being left go from his job as a direct result) don't even get as much as an apology!! :rolleyes:

    As it is, actual rape victims are then being treated like dirt by a very broken system and girls like this are doing them no favours.. An absolute disgrace!! :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    I think this may be a case of someone getting killed because of ignorant stupidity.

    You know how when you're angry you say something like "I'm going to kill Brian for being late", you don't actually intend to commit murder :rolleyes:

    The lad probably proceeded to third base, she might have made clear she was uncomfortable and he probably left it at that but the experience was regaled with pure ignorance as having been "raped".


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