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Eircom eFibre VDSL/FTTC rollout – plans to reach 1.6m premises by mid 2016
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So, just to confirm this...the ESB's fibre rollout will be covering homes that do not currently have a DSL or fibre connection in country/village areas?Sponge Bob wrote: »The story with that is that Rabbitte is waiting for a hail mary pass from the (so far) rather quiet ESB fibre rollout plan (to be announced in the Autumn I would say) and which will see the ESB fibre up some homes in smaller towns and villages that will not get VDSL or UPC cable.
Those who can neither get VDSL or ESB FTTP or UPC will be the households to be covered by the second NBS.
The Department of Communications has no competent staff, they had to use interns to 'design' the NBS from what I remember so don't expect much of Rabbitte.
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i live next to both a primary school and secondary school and am just hoping they will upgrade my area.
Secondary only. The problem with these is that many connections to secondary schools are point to point wireless 155mbit STM-1 from Airspeed or similar and their prices would give you a heart attack. Once the links are installed and provisioning 100mbits to the school itself there is only 55mbits 'spare' on that link at that point anyway.
eircom are not really in the game on this project but theoretically it may drive some extra fibre and NGB deployments over the next year in order that they may offer Ethernet over fibre product to schools.
In that case a rural community would get better backhaul for their ADSL which could make a substantial difference. There are areas in Ireland wher ethe secondary school has 3x the bandwidth of the entire parish such is the utter crapness of much of eircoms backhaul. 0 -
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MajesticDonkey wrote: »That's effectively my community, except the shop is closed down and the pub is only open at weekends.
Below is the outline ESB proposal . FTTP/FTTB/FTTH are the same thing, to the premises/building/home.
If your parish is too dispersed you must fund the gap. My reading of the JV proposal is that they intend to pick off semi urban (EG boreeens neer towns with 20 bungalows in a row) as well as urban semi and at a cost of around €1000 per premises but no more than that.
They look like they will cover c.300-400k premises in their plan, c. 1 in 5 nationwide at most.
Once you get into more rural areas you have to run more fibre metres for each premises covered. If they were EG doing Thurles and the immediate hinterland they may be amenable to going a few miles further out for €500 per premises and a few miles further agin for €1000 per premises.
Here is what i mean.
EG New Ross > http://goo.gl/maps/FKgmj
Just outside New Ross but packed together > http://goo.gl/maps/P6zg8
YOUR problem is funding that. It is called Gap Funding where the gap between economic and non economic is perhaps €500 per premises.
You may find your local credit union is a great help with it etc but they are not running a fibre to your house only I'd say...they need a community buy in on a large scale.
This is the original ESB description of their plan for a Joint Venture.It is anticipated that the Project may proceed in a number of phases. Phase 1 is expected to roll out the
FTTB network on a multi-year basis, focussing on urban and semi-urban conurbations outside of
Dublin city. ESB will provide JVCo with such access to its electricity infrastructure as is required for
this phase of the Project (and for subsequent phases, if carried out). In the deployment of the FTTB
network, this electricity infrastructure will be utilised where and to the extent it is practical to do so. It
is envisaged that this utilisation will involve elements such as the overhead network, the
underground ducted network and the electricity network sub-station compounds. There is the
potential for expansion of the FTTB network in subsequent phases to non-urban areas and/or Dublin
city (although interested parties should note that there is no guarantee in this regard).
It is currently envisaged that the FTTB network will consist of an aggregation network and an access
layer and that it will be optical end-to-end from the Central Office (CO) through to the Optical
Network Terminal (ONT) at the individual end user premises. The FTTB network will be built to
carrier class standards using the latest and best technology available. It is envisaged that both Point to
Point and Passive Optical Network (PON) technologies will be applied in the FTTB network.
It is currently anticipated that in addition to building the FTTB network, JVCo will maintain and
operate the passive and active components of the FTTB network. This will include (but may not be
limited to) the establishment and use of the relevant IT systems to manage the network and to
interface with customers of JVCo.
On terms to be agreed, ESB may provide certain IT systems/licences, installation services,
maintenance and repair services, and other services to JVCo in relation to the FTTB network. JVCo
may provide infrastructure access and services to ESB or its subsidiaries to facilitate the development
of the electricity infrastructure.
With regard to the contractual/commercial structure, it is currently envisaged that the successful joint
venture partner(s) will obtain a shareholding in JVCo anticipated to be up to 50% and will be required
to enter into appropriate documentation in relation thereto, which may include (but not be limited to)
a joint venture agreement. The structure of the transaction will be subject to appropriate legal,
financial and taxation due diligence and will be subject to discussion and agreement with those
parties selected as potential joint venture partners.
Further details on the likely terms for these agreements and the proposed legal framework will be
provided to those Candidates who are successful in being shortlisted to make proposals to ESB.
As envisaged, the Project will incur capital expenditure in excess of €300m in deploying the FTTB
network, and in this regard, the joint venture partner(s) will be expected to make a significant
contribution to the joint venture which may include one or more of the following elements: a cash
payment for the purchase of an interest in JVCo, an equity or other financial investment in JVCo,
provision of relevant expertise or assets to JVCo, and/or guaranteed levels of wholesale purchases by
the selected partner(s) or associate companies from the joint venture through the open access
arrangements outlined above.
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8 times faster than typical fast ADSL.
It can deliver 70-80Mbit/s and then 100mbits when vectoring is switched on.
Most ADSL lines deliver around 8 to 10mbit/s speeds of 10 to 24mbits are actually not very achievable on a lot of lines once you get a little bit further from the exchange.
VDSL2 might actually make a more dramatic impact in Ireland than in some other places as we've a lot of low density urban housing. This should knock several km off quite a lot of urban lines and see speed and stability improvements that are real and genuine improvements.Ah right. But what is the "average"?
I was taking the piss. The average would probably be quite poor. Solair stated above what it might be based on.0 -
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Sponge Bob wrote: »Below is the outline ESB proposal . FTTP/FTTB/FTTH are the same thing, to the premises/building/home.
If your parish is too dispersed you must fund the gap. My reading of the JV proposal is that they intend to pick off semi urban (EG boreeens neer towns with 20 bungalows in a row) as well as urban semi and at a cost of around €1000 per premises but no more than that.
They look like they will cover c.300-400k premises in their plan, c. 1 in 5 nationwide at most.
Once you get into more rural areas you have to run more fibre metres for each premises covered. If they were EG doing Thurles and the immediate hinterland they may be amenable to going a few miles further out for €500 per premises and a few miles further agin for €1000 per premises.
Here is what i mean.
EG New Ross > http://goo.gl/maps/FKgmj
Just outside New Ross but packed together > http://goo.gl/maps/P6zg8
YOUR problem is funding that. It is called Gap Funding where the gap between economic and non economic is perhaps €500 per premises.
You may find your local credit union is a great help with it etc but they are not running a fibre to your house only I'd say...they need a community buy in on a large scale.
This is the original ESB description of their plan for a Joint Venture.
HTH
I would gladly pay €1000 to connect fibre to my house.
Twice that even.0 -
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CraigSmith_IO wrote: »Sorry should've made my post a bit clearer. I wasn't saying it's a FTTH connection. However they are going with the same process as infinity where there's a central modem and then a hub. (AFAIK) These will be brought to houses by the engineer I think.
So if they are saying we conenct for "free", are they including the cost of the router or any equipment that they install? 0 -
some will have VDSL plus POTS phone service and some will have naked VDSL and will be forced to use VoIP , some modems will allow a standard phone to work for VoIP services if your OLD NUMBER is ported to a VoIP outfit like Blueface ......... and in other cases you need an ATA to adapt the standard phone to VoIP.
So in other words Craig...it depends. 0 -
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