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Super Rugby [Super 15] - General Discussion Thread

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    #1832
    Swiwi.
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    Mogg :(


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    #1833
    spank_inferno
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    Big momentum shift


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    #1834
    thomond2006
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    Why is Joubert giving the same warning twice? The last time he said "Next time it's the bin".


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    #1835
    matthew8
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    Brumbies look like they have nothing left in the tank.


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    #1836
    Swiwi.
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Why is Joubert giving the same warning twice? The last time he said "Next time it's the bin".

    Next next time it's in the bin.


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    #1837
    Swiwi.
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    AC finds his kicking boots in the nick of time.


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    #1838
    Kiwi_knock
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    That is the game there


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    #1839
    matthew8
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    Retallick is excellent. Brilliant pilfer.


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    #1840
    matthew8
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    TJ was going back for out on the full there. Could have had a lineout in the 22.


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    #1841
    DerTierarzt
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    Once again, phenomenal signing by Connacht.


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    #1842
    Swiwi.
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    Well done Chiefs!

    ...and fairplay to the Brumbies for an excellent challenge.


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    #1843
    Kiwi_knock
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    Congratulations to the Chiefs, it was a good match.


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    #1844
    Kiwi_knock
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    Very poor atmosphere for the trophy presentation


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    #1845
    Hagz
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    so thanks very much *clap clap clap*


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    #1846
    matthew8
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    Lions-Kings meant to be a sellout (and therefore record) crowd, but I can't watch it because there are no bloody streams around. 6-0 Kings so far, Lions 1 up on aggregate.


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    #1847
    Hagz
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    matthew8 wrote: »
    Lions-Kings meant to be a sellout (and therefore record) crowd, but I can't watch it because there are no bloody streams around. 6-0 Kings so far, Lions 1 up on aggregate.

    It's packed alright. Apart from the upper stands.


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    #1848
    Hagz
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    I was very confused there for a second seeing as I'm not following super rugby this year. It's not often you see the losing team celebrating when the final whistle is blown.


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    #1849
    thomond2006
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    Well what happens now to the Kings? Do they loan out their best players during next year's Super Rugby?

    Surely this system of one SA province getting promoted and relegated every season isn't sustainable...


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    #1850
    P_1
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Well what happens now to the Kings? Do they loan out their best players during next year's Super Rugby?

    Surely this system of one SA province getting promoted and relegated every season isn't sustainable...

    The problem with the Kings IMO is that their union isn't in the top division of the Currie Cup. Until they can do that they just can't really be competitive in the S15


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    #1851
    CatFromHue
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    thomond2006 wrote: »

    Surely this system of one SA province getting promoted and relegated every season isn't sustainable...

    It isn't and i think it's one of the main reasons for discussions of new formats for Super rugby.


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    #1852
    pickarooney
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    Decent final but lacked a bit of a spark. Fatigue seemed to affect the Brumbies near the end. Cruden had a poor game and should be relieved he was given the chance to win it. Great team ethic the chiefs have in fairness.

    I like that the TMO can be used a bit further out the field now but Joubert was taking the piss a bit. For Leali'ifano's try he was right there watching and told George smith everything was fine yet he went and asked the TMO if he should be overruled. Crazy.


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    #1853
    Swiwi.
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    Decent final but lacked a bit of a spark. Fatigue seemed to affect the Brumbies near the end. Cruden had a poor game and should be relieved he was given the chance to win it. Great team ethic the chiefs have in fairness.

    I like that the TMO can be used a bit further out the field now but Joubert was taking the piss a bit. For Leali'ifano's try he was right there watching and told George smith everything was fine yet he went and asked the TMO if he should be overruled. Crazy.

    Cruden was fine, but his goalkicking was terrible. He's a fearless defender. I have Leigh Halfpenny envy at present. Carter seems to be pretty much a 70% man these days, Beauden Barrett might be the best goalkicker of the 3 flyhalves. NZ's best at the moment is Gareth Anscombe, at one stage he was running 90% for the season, but got injured, and then when he came back Rennie preferred Cruden :eek:

    The TMO has been a definite success this season, but like yourself, sometimes they should just call it, rather than refer each & every try for confirmation.


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    #1854
    matthew8
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    Carter's still a world class goal kicker, wasn't he around 85% for super rugby?


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    #1855
    Swiwi.
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    matthew8 wrote: »
    Carter's still a world class goal kicker, wasn't he around 85% for super rugby?

    You might be right, but he just seems to miss a fair few these days, including in the semi. When he first hit the scene, he seemed to be Halfpennyesque.


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    #1856
    pickarooney
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    Barrett had some shocking kicks at goal in the last match I saw him play for the Highlanders.


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    #1857
    Swiwi.
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    Barrett had some shocking kicks at goal in the last match I saw him play for the Highlanders.

    Not sure if you mean Slade who plays for the Highlanders or Barrett who plays for the Hurricanes?

    I tried to find kicking percentage stats for this years SXV, but to no avail. Barrett was the top points scorer for the NZ teams in 3rd position overall, but behind Steyn & Lealiifano. However he averaged 11 points a game versus 13 for Dan Carter. Cruden was on a shocking 5 points, but this is mainly because Anscombe did all the goalkicking early on in the competition for the Chiefs.

    If anyone knows a good stats sight, I'd be obliged.


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    #1858
    Swiwi.
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    Here are highlights of the final. I reckon Robbie Robinson would make an excellent signing for any Irish province, he's a very good player, but without ever having represented NZ, his price shouldn't be exorbitant. I think he can goal kick too, from memory. He's represented NZ U20 and the Maori All Blacks.



    Edit: Found a wee RR tribute.


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    #1859
    matthew8
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    The one thing I'm certain of is that Carter was 89% at the start of the Chiefs semi. Steyn was under 80% at the start of the Brumbies game. If you're really that keen, every S15 game is on youtube as it was shown on Fox/Sky sports, and pretty much all the time they show a kicker's season stats before one of their first kicks. I might actually send an email to Fox Sports to get some statistics because it's pretty interesting stuff.


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    #1860
    Kiwi_knock
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    Found some kicking stats, not sure they are that accurate.

    http://www.statbunker.com/rugby/btb/index.php?PL=competition&CompID=423&statType=ksr&x=40&y=7


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    #1861
    Swiwi.
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    Kiwi_knock wrote: »
    Found some kicking stats, not sure they are that accurate.

    http://www.statbunker.com/rugby/btb/index.php?PL=competition&CompID=423&statType=ksr&x=40&y=7

    Cheers! I forgot about Tom Taylor (Crusaders), he is also a formidable goalkicker. But Matthew8 is right, I have been doing Carter a disservice, he finished on 86%.


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