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Ian Paisley is in hospital...

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    #122
    Zebra3
    Registered Users Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    He was a good Ulsterman.

    He helped fan the flames of a bitter war which saw over 3,000 people die and another what? 10,000+ suffer injuries.

    Whatever turns you on.


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    #123
    gigino
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    Interestingly, he never hated 'Catholics' as people, indeed he had many Roman Catholics in his constituency who wouldn't say a bad word about him, but Paisley does/did hate the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church, that is where he always directed his bile.
    plus he believed in supporting the government / the law. He kept the 10 commandments. If everyone supported the law in N. I., it would have been a better place in the 70's and 80's.


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    #124
    Zebra3
    Registered Users Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Zackary Grumpy Chimp wrote: »
    Judging by his sig, I think Biggins may be Ian Paisley.

    :confused:

    Biggins's sig refers to rebuilding a republic.

    Paisley (who was headed of the Democratic Unionist Party) was pro-monarchist.


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    #125
    KeithAFC
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    He helped fan the flames of a bitter war which saw over 3,000 people die and another what? 10,000+ suffer injuries.

    Whatever turns you on.
    A man of his time. Like many others.


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    #126
    Notorious97
    Registered Users Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭Notorious97


    gigino wrote: »
    LordSutch wrote: »
    Interestingly, he never hated 'Catholics' as people, indeed he had many Roman Catholics in his constituency who wouldn't say a bad word about him, but Paisley does/did hate the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church, that is where he always directed his bile.
    plus he believed in supporting the government / the law. He kept the 10 commandments. If everyone supported the law in N. I., it would have been a better place in the 70's and 80's.

    Im not actually sure if your reply is taking the pi$$ or not, if it is then ignore my reply, if not...

    You mean the law in NI which oppresed catholics for simply being catholics??? It was the northern statelet which helped create the conditions for the troubles to exist

    I am no fan of paisley, never will be but recently he has helped bring about change, but leaving that aside he was nobody to be proud of!


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    #127
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    :confused:

    Biggins's sig refers to rebuilding a republic.

    Paisley (who was headed of the Democratic Unionist Party) was pro-monarchist.

    :)

    Zackary Grumpy Chimp was just jesting. Pulling my chain!
    No worries. :D


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    #128
    buyer95
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    According to Eamon Mallie he hasnt suffered a heart attack and isnt as ill as is being said, https://twitter.com/#!/EamonnMallie


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    #129
    Seachmall
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Hopefully his autobiography can be released soon. He was a good Ulsterman.

    Aye, should be a good read.


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    #130
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    In fairness there was far worse than him in the north who really hated catholics. As was said he seemed to hate the religion itself.


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    #131
    Biggins
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    buyer95 wrote: »
    According to Eamon Mallie he hasnt suffered a heart attack and isnt as ill as is being said, https://twitter.com/#!/EamonnMallie

    I wonder how he has such an insight into whats going on exactly in the mans room and the treatment he's getting? :confused:


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    #132
    Chuck Stone
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    gigino wrote: »
    plus he believed in supporting the government / the law. If everyone supported the law in N. I., it would have been a better place in the 70's and 80's.

    This is total bull**** and wilful trolling.

    Paisley was jailed a number of times.


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    #133
    Zebra3
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    gigino wrote: »
    plus he believed in supporting the government / the law. He kept the 10 commandments. If everyone supported the law in N. I., it would have been a better place in the 70's and 80's.

    He loved thy neighbour? :rolleyes:

    Of course if the RUC and B-Specials had supported the law, maybe so much s**t wouldn't have happened.

    Even the Brits when they arrived into Belfast were appauled by the behaviour of the B-Specials in particular.


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    #134
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Ian Paisley arrives at the pearly gates. St. peter notices his name is flagged.
    'ian, i'm going to need proof of three good deeds before I can admit you into heaven' says St.Peter

    'well, in the 1960's, I donated £100 anonymously to a catholic family whose electricity was being cut off.'

    St. peter flicks through the book. 'it's there.' Two more'

    'in the 1970's I donated £100 anonymously to a Catholic family who's Father had been imprisoned'

    St. peter flicks through the book. 'it's there. One more.

    'in the 1980's i donated £100 to a Catholic family who's son was on hunger strikemin the maze'

    St. peter flicks through the book. 'it's there. Hang on i have a word with the big man.

    St. peter goes behind a curtain and calls God. he returns a few moments later and says 'God said to give you this. here's your £300. Now **** off to hell.'


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    #135
    Callipo
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭Callipo


    I read somewhere that Steve Jobs last words were "Wow, wow, wow"

    I hope his are "No, No, No"


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    #136
    buyer95
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    Biggins wrote: »
    I wonder how he has such an insight into whats going on exactly in the mans room and the treatment he's getting? :confused:

    The guy has 10,000 followers, apparently a respected political analyst in the North, I doubt he would get a way with hearsay, expect its true, as their has been no formal confirmation it was a heart attack


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    #137
    Zebra3
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    A man of his time. Like many others.

    So true.

    Just like Stalin, Hitler, Churchill, the leaders of the KKK, the bigots of Apartheid SA.........


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    #138
    Chuck Stone
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    In fairness there was far worse than him in the north who really hated catholics. As was said he seemed to hate the religion itself.

    While being an 'infallible Pope' of a pretty hateful church himself.

    I mean come on FFS - a total hypocrite.


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    #139
    Biggins
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    buyer95 wrote: »
    The guy has 10,000 followers, apparently a respected political analyist in the North, I doubt he would get a way with hearsay, expect its true, as their has been no formal confirmation it was a heart attack

    fair enough, there must be some of those 10,000 followers in the hospital right now, keeping him informed.
    Sky News just reported he is having heart problems by the way. Something to do with his pacemaker?


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    #140
    KeithAFC
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    So true.

    Just like Stalin, Hitler, Churchill, the leaders of the KKK, the bigots of Apartheid SA.........
    Gerry Adams, Martin Mcguinness, Billy McKee, Tom Barry and so on.


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    #141
    Callipo
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭Callipo


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    In fairness there was far worse than him in the north who really hated catholics. As was said he seemed to hate the religion itself.


    i suggest you read a book on the subject. there were many.


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    #142
    Irish Wolf
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    Biggins wrote: »
    his pacemaker?

    Gerry and...


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    #143
    later12
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    gigino wrote: »
    He kept the 10 commandments.
    Well I'm not sure what kind of defense that is supposed to be, but it's important to counter it anyway.

    From my limited memory of Christian belief, Jesus summed up the ten commandments with "Love the Lord thy God", and "Love thy neighbour".

    Love thy neighbour?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zSWlAHD29M


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    #144
    buyer95
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    Biggins wrote: »
    fair enough, there must be some of those 10,000 followers in the hospital right now, keeping him informed.
    Sky News just reported he is having heart problems by the way. Something to do with his pacemaker?

    No need to get all uppity... Its not like it matters greatly, either way, he is 85 and will only hang in their for so much longer, his death sure will be a momentous occasion, but if its tomorrow or in 5 years time the reaction will be the same


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    #145
    Bullseye1
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Gerry Adams, Martin Mcguinness, Billy McKee, Tom Barry and so on.

    Not quite as good as Zebra's list.


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    #146
    Zebra3
    Registered Users Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Gerry Adams, Martin Mcguinness, Billy McKee, Tom Barry and so on.

    What about them?

    None of them are racist or sectarian bigots.

    Anti-imperialist, yes.


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    #147
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Callipo wrote: »
    i suggest you read a book on the subject. there were many.

    I have read many books on the subject and known people badly affected by the troubles. There was certainly worse than him in the north.


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    #148
    Comeagain
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    The bould Ian has made his peace. He wants to be accepted in the next world. Thats why he shaked the hand of Bertie the berk a few years ago without realising that Bertie was a bigger sinner.

    Swings and roundabouts. Smoke and mirrors, daggers or whatever your havin.

    May he rest in peace or something similar.


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    #149
    Doc Ruby
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    I have read many books on the subject and known people badly affected by the troubles. There was certainly worse than him in the north.
    Few as visible and influential though.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uxOXQPVh-s


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    #150
    woodoo
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    A man of his time. Like many others.

    Say ten 'Hail Mary's' Keith and hope for the best.


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    #151
    KeithAFC
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    What about them?

    None of them are racist or sectarian bigots.

    Anti-imperialist, yes.
    Yeah, just like blowing people to pieces and shooting people. A people of the time.


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