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Ian Paisley is in hospital...

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    #2
    efb
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    Get well soon Lord Bannside


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    #3
    44leto
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    Yeah Big Ian get well soon.


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    steddyeddy
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    He did a lot for the peace process and I wish him the best of health.


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    Ghandee
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    later10 wrote: »
    No AH thread on this yet?

    What have we become?

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0206/breaking38.html

    I would like to say fcuk him, as he was an awful gobshiite in his time.

    But in hindsight, big Ian mellowed dramatically in the last decade or so, and I'll genuinely mourn his passing when it happens.

    Never thought I'd see the day when he shared govt with Sinn Fein.
    At least hell be remembered for the right reasons now, even if it was only in the last decade that he embraced the peace treaty.


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    someuser905
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    why did he mellow so much?


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    AG2R
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    His heart couldn't take his angry self


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    ChunkyLover_53
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    Aha! So thats who started this thread!

    Poxy Hospital waiting time to be treated


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    TeddyTedson
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    Ghandee wrote: »
    I would like to say fcuk him, as he was an awful gobshiite in his time.

    But in hindsight, big Ian mellowed dramatically in the last decade or so, and I'll genuinely mourn his passing when it happens.

    Never thought I'd see the day when he shared govt with Sinn Fein.
    At least hell be remembered for the right reasons now, even if it was only in the last decade that he embraced the peace treaty.
    He knew he had to cooperate to be positively remembered at his time of life. His son is another bollocks just like he was.
    At least he got some of his **** together in the end, but I don't think I'll be mourning the death of that man. The north would probably have been better without him overall.


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    gcgirl
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    Well there's a get well soon from me might not agree with him sometimes but from what I have heard he is a gent outside of politics and his wife is a lovely woman too :)


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    dj jarvis
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    i dont agree with his politics or his view on religion , and i would fight his view on the six county's but .......

    he is a 85 year old man who is ill - and with any person who is ill i wish him well

    funny thing is a thread here a few months ago on thatcher was hate filled and scathing about her ......

    and i have a feeling this thread will not be the same

    we are a funny lot really

    ( and keithafc this is what forgive and forget is all about - you should try it sometime , its liberating )


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    biko
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    RIP Get well soon Ian.


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    gcgirl
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    ChunkyLover_53 wrote: »
    Aha! So thats who started this thread!

    Poxy Hospital waiting time to be treated
    Alas Belfast hospitals just possible show their southern counter parts a thing or 2


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    steddyeddy
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    gcgirl wrote: »
    ChunkyLover_53 wrote: »
    Aha! So thats who started this thread!

    Poxy Hospital waiting time to be treated
    Alas Belfast hospitals just possible show their southern counter parts a thing or 2

    Especially when it comes to knee surgury aparantly!


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    ItsAWindUp
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    Ian Paisley has suffered a suspected heart attack.The IRA has claimed responsibility, Sinn Fein have condemned all heart attacks.


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    gcgirl
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    gcgirl wrote: »
    ChunkyLover_53 wrote: »
    Aha! So thats who started this thread!

    Poxy Hospital waiting time to be treated
    Alas Belfast hospitals just possible show their southern counter parts a thing or 2

    Especially when it comes to knee surgury aparantly!
    Apparently if your a cf patient you've a longer life span up north compare to down here and then there's the oncology doctors :)


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    Soil Mechanic
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    ...PIRA General Army Council said to be "very concerned" over health of "Outstanding" Human Resources Manager....
    ;)


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    Ghandee
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    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    He knew he had to cooperate to be positively remembered at his time of life. His son is another bollocks just like he was.
    At least he got some of his **** together in the end, but I don't think I'll be mourning the death of that man. The north would probably have been better without him overall.

    Lol, a lot of that was a show tbh.

    I remember the day he arrived into our college, had a tour of the place and we were required to stand with him for a picture for a local paper.....

    About ten lads from my class (myself included) refused, due to our Towns/villages being staunchly republican/nationalist areas, I'll never forget when he asked me where I was from (upon hearing the reason for our refusal for the photo) he said he didn't Blame me when I told him the name of my home village ! lol


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    Ghandee
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    someuser905 wrote: »
    why did he mellow so much?

    He probably succumbed to the view that 'might is right'.


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    Zebra3
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    A man of pure evil who drove a lot of poorly educated young people into conducting pograms (i.e. ethnic cleansing).


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    Where To
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    Big Ian did a lot of good work for Ireland politically as well, particularly in ensuring our offshore islands were not abandoned.


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    senorwipesalot
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    says NO.


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    My name is URL
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    someuser905 wrote: »
    why did he mellow so much?

    I'm guessing that he realised that he was going to be unable to reconcile his faith with the hatred that he felt towards other people. He can meet his maker now, safe in the knowledge that he tried to make the world a better place

    :pac:


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    later12
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    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    He knew he had to cooperate to be positively remembered at his time of life. His son is another bollocks just like he was.
    At least he got some of his **** together in the end, but I don't think I'll be mourning the death of that man. The north would probably have been better without him overall.
    I wish I could thank this post more than once.

    I don't want to get into a debate about Northern politics; we all have our opinions on it and I can already sense the hardliners circling this thread. But this man's role as a peacemaker at the end of his career does not cancel out his role as a peace breaker at the start of it.

    The majority of his political life was spent pursuing shameful, inhumane dogmas that gave rise to division and violence; such a career deserves utter condemnation (no differently to those whose lives were spent fanning the flames of violence and division on the other side).

    Whatever we individually think about Northern politics (and that's for another day perhaps), I think it is important that we do not airbursh this man's frankly vile political aggression and bigotry, which he pursued up until the latter days of his life, when he felt fate breathing on the back of his neck.

    I don't wish ill of any man, but i certainly won't mourn Ian Paisely.


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    johnayo
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    someuser905 wrote: »
    why did he mellow so much?
    He mellowed so much because he wanted power. If he refused, he would never have been first minister.


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    Ghandee
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    later12
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    johnayo wrote: »
    He mellowed so much because he wanted power. If he refused, he would never have been first minister.
    He knew history is unkind to man who agitates for division.

    His ego changed his politics. I don't believe there was any ethical shift that occurred in that strange, rearward mind of Dr Paisley's.


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    mikemac1
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    gcgirl wrote: »
    from what I have heard he is a gent outside of politics

    You were misinformed

    Sports is not politics and yet he stood outside Ravenhill in Belfast ranting and raving at rugby supporters going to a match on a Sunday

    Catholic Church seems completely laid back and relaxed compared to the rules he follows


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    chavezychavez
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    ItsAWindUp wrote: »
    Ian Paisley has suffered a suspected heart attack.The IRA has claimed responsibility, Sinn Fein have condemned all heart attacks.

    Sorry man, robbin' that for my Facistbook status. Its a classic. Only SOPA (or a Paisley heart attack) can stop me now.


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    Badgermonkey
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    A malignant behemoth and a charismatic man, poisoned by tribalism and that old time religion.

    His deeds should be forgiven, not forgotten.


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    Yahew
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    Of course you can judge a man by his entire life, only a dogmatist wouldn't. Paisley, like Scrooge, had a reformed last quarter.

    Best of luck to him.


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