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Poxy Hospital waiting times to be treated

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  • 05-02-2012 2:55am
    #1
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    Jesus christ I hate this kip of a country and its third world service.

    My daughter is in the Mater with a friend waiting since 6 o clock this evening, still havent been seen by a doctor. Nurse came and took bloods from her friend about three hours ago, said Doctor would be by soon, they are still waiting.

    My daughter told me there was an elderly man in a wheelchair, and she noticed he was on the verge on falling off, so she pointed it out to the staff, who told her 'ah hes grand...' then the old man got up, maybe to stretch his legs, go to the bathroom, dont know, but then someone came and took the chair, so when the old guy got back his wheelchair was gone.

    Shes been telling me ' mam you wouldnt believe what Im seeing here, they way people are being treated.Shes really upset over it.

    James O Rielly, f****** Harney with a beard. DO SOMETHING.


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    they finally got seen too at 4.00 this morning. I had to go to the hospital as my daughter was so upset. Also had to bring her a flask of tea as there is no where to get a drink in the place. Saturday night in A&E, drunks staggering around, few junkies. Place is a kip. Youd be better off hopping on a ferry to England and using their A&E services.


    This town really needs a drunk tank. When you are sick and in pain you really shouldnt have to worry about your bleedin safety as well.

    :mad:


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    Tonto86
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    What was she in A&E for?


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    [Deleted User]
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    Tonto86 wrote: »
    What was she in A&E for?

    She was there with a friend who was ill.


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    Kiera
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    Have you just arrived in Ireland for the first time?


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    LaFlammeRouge
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    Jake1 wrote: »
    She was there with a friend who was ill.

    Could the friend have not gone to a GP instead. Many people rock up to A&E unnecessarily and waste everyones time. If the nurse suspects you are a time waster they let you wait.


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    mikom
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    Jake1 wrote: »
    She was there with a friend who was ill.

    What sort of illness?


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    dxhound2005
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    Jake1 wrote: »
    they finally got seen too at 4.00 this morning. I had to go to the hospital as my daughter was so upset. Also had to bring her a flask of tea as there is no where to get a drink in the place. Saturday night in A&E, drunks staggering around, few junkies. Place is a kip. Youd be better off hopping on a ferry to England and using their A&E services.


    This town really needs a drunk tank. When you are sick and in pain you really shouldnt have to worry about your bleedin safety as well.

    :mad:

    These PS workers with their cushy numbers working at 4 in the morning.


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    gcgirl
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    Luckily I have only been in a children's hospital, in decent health myself apart from the knees, but what do you expect from such an pack of wasters, if we thought ff was bad wait till fg really fook us up


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    R.D. aka MR.D
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    Jake1 wrote: »
    Jesus christ I hate this kip of a country and its third world service.

    I was treated in A&E in a 'third word' country and in Ireland within the space of 4 months and calling the service i got in Ireland a third world service is an insult to the amazing doctors and service I got in that other country.


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    Mint Sauce
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    Not A&E but once was told could expect to wait 9 months to see a specialist in the public clinic, paid €70 to see her privately and was seen the following week in the same consult room as her public patients.
    Jake1 wrote: »
    She was there with a friend who was ill.

    I think what tonto means was, what was she being treated for? was she triaged and considered to be an none urgant case? could it have been treated by a GP?

    I have spent 3 to 4 hours in A&E for a suspected broken wrist on a friday morning, had I gone in on a friday night could have expected to be there twice as long.


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    dxhound2005
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    Drunk time wasters in A&E in the UK as well.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/panorama/hi/front_page/newsid_9551000/9551239.stm


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    senorwipesalot
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    When I read the title "Poxy Hospital waiting times " I expected the thread to be a rant about STD clinics.
    Sorry OP.


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    dxhound2005
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    R.D. aka MR.D wrote: »
    I was treated in A&E in a 'third word' country and in Ireland within the space of 4 months and calling the service i got in Ireland a third world service is an insult to the amazing doctors and service I got in that other country.

    You don't have to be so vague. What country?


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    trishasaffron
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    LaFlammeRouge wrote: »
    Could the friend have not gone to a GP instead. Many people rock up to A&E unnecessarily and waste everyones time. If the nurse suspects you are a time waster they let you wait.

    That's always been my view too. But late last year I had a sudden collapse at home one evening, fainted and hit my head on the floor. In my usual stoic fashion I just went to bed but felt so bad in the morning I stayed home from work - when I didn't feel well after resting I eventually rang my GP who immediately called an ambulance and sent me to A&E. Turned out some meds I had taken had caused a dramatic loss of sodium which had caused the collapse and I was kept in for 24 hours on a drip.

    One of the many many doctors I saw kept at me "why did you not come in to A&E immediately?" I tried to explain that the last thing that would occur to me was to clog up A&E with a minor event. But given his skepticism and obsession with the fact that on the forms I had admitted that I sometimes drank wine with my meals I finally guessed that he thought I had been drunk. I laughed - since that evening I hadn't had anything to drink - and asked him if that was what he was getting at - but he still persisted. Once the blood results came in I never saw that doc again but I was quite cross at his assumptions.


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    gosuckonalemon
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    Jake1 wrote: »
    Jesus christ I hate this kip of a country and its third world service.

    My daughter is in the Mater with a friend waiting since 6 o clock this evening, still havent been seen by a doctor. Nurse came and took bloods from her friend about three hours ago, said Doctor would be by soon, they are still waiting.

    My daughter told me there was an elderly man in a wheelchair, and she noticed he was on the verge on falling off, so she pointed it out to the staff, who told her 'ah hes grand...' then the old man got up, maybe to stretch his legs, go to the bathroom, dont know, but then someone came and took the chair, so when the old guy got back his wheelchair was gone.

    Shes been telling me ' mam you wouldnt believe what Im seeing here, they way people are being treated.Shes really upset over it.

    James O Rielly, f****** Harney with a beard. DO SOMETHING.

    I'm getting the impression it can't have been that much of an emergency.

    Why wait til the weekend to go, of course it's going to be clogged.

    You can't blame the government for drunk people clogging up hospitals.

    Also, why did your daughter not stop the person from taking the wheelchair?


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    iguana
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    LaFlammeRouge wrote: »
    Could the friend have not gone to a GP instead. Many people rock up to A&E unnecessarily and waste everyones time. If the nurse suspects you are a time waster they let you wait.

    I was in Tallaght last month after being referred by my GP urgently. I was seen by the nurse in triage, had my case put down as urgent priority, was told by the patient liason officer that the only way I could be a higher priority was if I needed resuscitation. I was in the waiting room for 16 hours.

    After the first 5 hours the nurse gave me oxycontin for the pain, known as hillbilly heroin, and sent me back to the waiting room. So I spent the next 8 hours on a weird high and the last few hours scratching like mad, which is typical of oxycontin withdrawal.

    Then once I was admitted to A&E I got to spend the next 6 hours on a trolley by a doorway to the outside which people walked through every few minutes and never shut, so I was absolutely freezing. I had it good compared to the girl next to me who was waiting on a brain scan and lost her trolley to another patient when she went to the toilet.

    But it's ok, our hospitals are clearly great as we can afford to spend €3m a year on communion outfits.


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    Cianos
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    gosuckonalemon wrote: »
    I'm getting the impression it can't have been that much of an emergency.

    Why wait til the weekend to go, of course it's going to be clogged.

    You can't blame the government for drunk people clogging up hospitals.

    Also, why did your daughter not stop the person from taking the wheelchair?

    Yes you can.


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    lividduck
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    Thank god for for Private Health Insurance


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    byhookorbycrook
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    I was in A and E three times last year and waited a minimum of 6 hours to be taken in the first time(by which time my appendix had burst.)I was triaged and the doctor who saw me decided it WASN'T my appendix, as according to him, they had removed it previously. Only for the nurses I would probably have died-and that's according to another doctor, not me being over-dramatic.

    I spend two days on a trolley, that was shoved into one of the day-wards,despite the fact that I am high-risk of infection due to meds I take. They didn't have any of my pain meds in stock,which could happen, but took my own supply and then lost it.

    I became very dehydrated due to reactions to the anti-bios and was very weak. When I finally escaped,there was no wheelchair for me to use to get to the car so my husband literally had to search the corridors to find one.He then had to go all the way round to the fee-charging car park, so I was sitting outside the front door for 20 mins,too weak to move inside.

    I was re-admitted due to a pelvic abscess in a short space of time, 8 hrs in A and E this time by which time x-ray and ultra-sound were closed.Another trolley and then they lost my notes for 36 hours.Only that I always ask what a drug/tablet is,what dosage and why it is being given to me,I would have been given a) a wrong drug and b) an overdose of another.

    Admitted a 3rd time, by which point my gp went on the warpath
    and I "only" waited 8 hours for a bed.

    As long as our tds etc have private insurance and can skip queues,we won't see any improvement.


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    44leto
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    Unfortunately I have seen our health service at its best, my father is unwell and my 2 sister in laws both got cancer but now they have fully recovered. The treatment once you get into the system is world class and unbelievably good.

    But its getting into the system in the first place. But if you are really sick with a life threatening illness you will get into the system.

    But I have also seen it at its worse, mainly the A and E and people on waiting lists for certain operations.


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    Kiera
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    lividduck wrote: »
    Thank god for for Private Health Insurance

    You dont get seen to any faster in A&E if you have private health insurance.


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    gosuckonalemon
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    Cianos wrote: »
    Yes you can.


    What can they do? Make it illegal for drunk people to attend A&E? If not, then you can't.


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    Benny_Cake
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    44leto wrote: »
    Unfortunately I have seen our health service at its best, my father is unwell and my 2 sister in laws both got cancer but now they have fully recovered. The treatment once you get into the system is world class and unbelievably good.

    But its getting into the system in the first place. But if you are really sick with a life threatening illness you will get into the system.

    But I have also seen it at its worse, mainly the A and E and people on waiting lists for certain operations.

    You put your finger on it there - the bottleneck is in accessing the system, getting tests done and so on. Once you get through, the devotion to duty and professionalism of the majority of staff is quite something. The length of time it takes to get diagnosed is pretty disgraceful though.


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    Cianos
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    gosuckonalemon wrote: »
    What can they do? Make it illegal for drunk people to attend A&E? If not, then you can't.

    The A&Es and the procedures surrounding them, including the processing of drunk people, is the governments responsibility. There shouldn't be such apathetic tolerance for them being 'clogged up' at any time, whether there are drunks involved or not.


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    lividduck
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    Kiera wrote: »
    You dont get seen to any faster in A&E if you have private health insurance.
    you do in the Beacon, Mater Private, and Swiftcare


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    Kiera
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    lividduck wrote: »
    you do in the Beacon, Mater Private, and Swiftcare

    And they have an A&E dept, do they?


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    gosuckonalemon
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    Cianos wrote: »
    The A&Es and the procedures surrounding them, including the processing of drunk people, is the governments responsibility. There shouldn't be such apathetic tolerance for them being 'clogged up' at any time, whether there are drunks involved or not.

    Drunk people have to be treated the same as everybody else. Unless there is a special unit for drunks (which would never happen) then there is nothing the government can do to stop the problem. It's a simple unavoidable consequence of a nation with a serious drinking problem.


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    byhookorbycrook
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    lividduck wrote: »
    you do in the Beacon, Mater Private, and Swiftcare
    Some of those do not have full A and E and not all of us are in Dublin!!


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    lividduck
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    Kiera wrote: »
    And they have an A&E dept, do they?
    Yes they do, Im been to a&e at both Swifcare in Dundrum and at the Beacon in Sandyford, and Mater Private advertise theirs on radio


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    lividduck
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    byhookorbycrook wrote: »
    Some of those do not have full A and E and not all of us are in Dublin!!
    reading the posts most "public" hospitals dont have fullA&E either.
    Lets face it public care is dangerously bad.


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