IE's 071 Class.

Oscar Bravo

087 in very bad nic there!

Oscar Bravo

083 was coupled to 1 timber wagon in Westport at 1230 today. the bogies on the wagon were been worked on.

Oscar Bravo

082 worked the N-Wall - Ballina IWT while 226 worked the Ballina-N-Wall IWT
Also noted going through Portharlington this morning was 073 on a Limerick - Inchicore Wagon transfer.

Captain Chaos

084 is back on the taras. Saw it today at 14:45 with the second last laden tara of the week.

Oscar Bravo

074 operated LE to Ballina from Inchicore this afternoon.

Jamie2k9

088 Waterford-Westport/Ballins? empty timber train at Kildare.

Oscar Bravo

Hi Jamie. 088 worked the empty timber into Westport. 073 worked todays laden Ballina-Waterford timber which passed through Manulla Junction at 1650.

Jamie2k9

082 and 083 joined together at Inchicore. One had failed in Ballina and was taken to Heuston for repairs.

Oscar Bravo

076 worked todays Northwall-Ballina IWT liner.

Oscar Bravo

088 worked the Westport-Waterford timber,saw it in Athlone around 8pm.

gobnaitolunacy

jca

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

Very nice.

Oscar Bravo

Saw 073 with the Ballina-Waterford timber depart Athlone just before 8pm this evening. 072 sitting in a cold Westport yard tonight with an empty timber.

trabpc

Saw what I think was an 071 today going through fontill station heading towards city. Still painted clearly in IE orange. I was over a km away but copped the freight containers 1st then the orange engine. Had not seen one in years. I presume the 141s,181s are gone. I could only catch quick glimpse of the orange so could not tell the class. Any one else spot it. About 1.15 pm

Captain Chaos

trabpc wrote: »

Saw what I think was an 071 today going through fontill station heading towards city. Still painted clearly in IE orange. I was over a km away but copped the freight containers 1st then the orange engine. Had not seen one in years. I presume the 141s,181s are gone. I could only catch quick glimpse of the orange so could not tell the class. Any one else spot it. About 1.15 pm

It could only have been 084. It's only loco left in service still in IE orange. There are 3 other 071s in orange but they are all in for long term overhauls to combat body work rusting.

162, 171 and 175 are still running as Inchicore shunters and are confined to the depot. 175 and 124 have recently been purchased for preservation.

The list of preserved 121/141/181s are 124,134 141,142,146,152,175 190.

Oscar Bravo

It was indeed 084 on the IWT.

Captain Chaos

Oscar Bravo wrote: »

It was indeed 084 on the IWT.

Must have swapped with 083 over the weekend as it was on the IWT on Friday and its on taras now, 084 was last week.

end of the road

its a shame only 1 181 was preserved, still 1 is better then none.
anyone got any news on poor old 6111 aka AEC railcar 2624? will she be off to the cutters soon?

trabpc

Oscar Bravo wrote: »

It was indeed 084 on the IWT.

Thanks.. Does 084 be out much? Reminded me of the 80's in portlaoise all over again!

Grandeeod

end of the road wrote: »

anyone got any news on poor old 6111 aka AEC railcar 2624? will she be off to the cutters soon?

She's cutting herself up nicely in Inchicore without any direct help from CIE. (since when did CIE directly help anything railway related.) Of course the good reverend may have plans for her, but I doubt it.:D

end of the road

Grandeeod wrote: »

She's cutting herself up nicely in Inchicore without any direct help from CIE.

a shame, i know its a railcar and railcars aren't popular with some folk, but still its part of transport history and should have been preserved better, still what has been preserved is an achievement so shouldn't grumble.

Grandeeod wrote: »

(since when did CIE directly help anything railway related.)

erm, am, em, oh

Grandeeod wrote: »

Of course the good reverend may have plans for her, but I doubt it.

well has he done anything with it since it came into his Possession?

Captain Chaos

trabpc wrote: »

Thanks.. Does 084 be out much? Reminded me of the 80's in portlaoise all over again!

084 gets around a good bit. It tends to end up on the Tara trains alot of the time though.

Of the active 071s, I have not seen and read anything about the where abouts of 085 in a good few months now. Wonder where it's been hiding.

Temp101

Captain Chaos wrote: »

162, 171 and 175 are still running as Inchicore shunters and are confined to the depot.

171 was the last of these to work, and that was over twelve months ago. There's only one working Bo-Bo at this stage, 146.

trabpc

Captain Chaos wrote: »

084 gets around a good bit. It tends to end up on the Tara trains alot of the time though.

Of the active 071s, I have not seen and read anything about the where abouts of 085 in a good few months now. Wonder where it's been hiding.

How much longer will 084 be left in orange. Lovely to see it again.

Captain Chaos

trabpc wrote: »

How much longer will 084 be left in orange. Lovely to see it again.

It just passed me at 14:30 at Clongriffin with empty returns for tara mines. It didn't stay away too long. 083 passing 20 mins later with a fully laden train for Alexandra Road.

Captain Chaos

Temp101 wrote: »

171 was the last of these to work, and that was over twelve months ago. There's only one working Bo-Bo at this stage, 146.

Thought either 162, 171 or 175 was still shunting stock around at Inchicore as needed. I know 171 was the last out on the mainline in service with IE.

142 is in working order at Whitehead but it's not operating at full performance. 146 is only back working a few months after having one of it's cabs rebuilt because of crash.

Temp101

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Thought either 162, 171 or 175 was still shunting stock around at Inchicore as needed. I know 171 was the last out on the mainline in service with IE.

142 is in working order at Whitehead but it's not operating at full performance. 146 is only back working a few months after having one of it's cabs rebuilt because of crash.

142 had better not be working at all as it was drained of engine oil a couple of months back! 171 was the last one as Works Pilot, months after it's brothers, but was parked up in November 2011. 146 was back at work at the beginning of August.

Oscar Bravo

Hey Captain Chaos,re 085. its confined to Inchicore for quite some time now. It did,a good few months back operate an IWT liner from Northwall but was taking off at Inchicore and replaced.

Oscar Bravo

On Friday 081 stormed through Castlebar at 1645 working the Westport-Waterford timber train. Also,From the main road into Ballina town tonight i could see 074 and 083 sitting in the yard there.

Oscar Bravo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAiWaxuTyCM listen to the roar from 0.35

Oscar Bravo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftCzOrk55Kc double 071 reversing into Westport.

Oscar Bravo

073 is working this evenings Westport-Waterford timber trian.

I was told that 077 was in the paint shop this week as part of the body overhaul. I wonder if it'll have the new logo on it?

Oscar Bravo

Wow,that was quick,wonder wheres 078 and 087 if 077 is already in the paint shop?

Captain Chaos

Oscar Bravo wrote: »

Wow,that was quick,wonder wheres 078 and 087 if 077 is already in the paint shop?

When 077 is released back into traffic may we see 084 finally getting called in? The last orange loco standing or rolling as the case may be.

078 is next in line for the paint shop. Needs parts though.

jca

Oscar Bravo wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftCzOrk55Kc double 071 reversing into Westport.

Nice vid. Nothing like that V12 sound eh?:D

demanufactured

Has there ever been an actuall double headed movement using 071s?

demanufactured

demanufactured wrote: »

Has there ever been an actuall double headed movement using 071s?

I'm not sure about 071s, but NIR 111 and 112 have worked in multiple before.

Captain Chaos

demanufactured wrote: »

Has there ever been an actuall double headed movement using 071s?

Maybe during testing when they were first delivered but it is not allowed under IE rules.

As Karsini posted NIR have double headed the 111s a few times. 111 and 113 double headed the Hunslet farewell tour. NIR top and tail their 111s regularly on engineering trains and for shunting stock. IE don't do this with their 071s or any other loco either and instead send a light engine down the line after the weed spray train if the loco can't run round. The train gets haul back and then the other loco has to follow light engine. Wast of time and money because IE won't do top and tailling.

IE did use four 141s in multiple during the Maynooth redoubling. They were all powered and were used to bed down the track. A friend of mine has a photo of them at Clonsilla.

There is actually a technical reason why IE don't top and tail, but it's not something that can't be resolved. The 121/141/181/071 class locos have an independent (green) brake pipe that controls the brakes on the locomotive. If this isn't connected between both locos in a multiple working scenario, the trailing loco can't release its brakes. The problem is that the green pipe is not present on IE rolling stock, so it's not possible to connect the locos together at each end, so they must both be side-by-side.

The 201s don't have the independent brake pipe, instead they have a remote cock/valve. When this is set to trail mode, the brakes work the same way as a coach and are controlled via the train brake in the leading 201. In theory it should be possible to top and tail 201s if the stock has a 27-pin passthrough (e.g. Mk3 Internationals) but I'm not sure.

Captain Chaos

So when NIR top and tail the odd time the rear loco is dead? When a few locos were being moved from Whitehead a year or so ago, can't remember them but there were 3 preserved locos. 111 was at one end and 113 at the other.

Better than doing what IE do with the Sperry and WS trains, sending two crews to do the job that one could. Or is that due to another issue of getting the locos to start back up, I'm sure a loco could be hauled around while in idle power.

I don't know what the situation up north is, hence why I said IE rolling stock.

I doubt that they're dead, because you'd still have the issue of the locos needing to be connected. It's not permitted to run any unbraked vehicles except in emergency situations. NIR probably do have the facility to connect the locos together but I just don't know.

Another thing to note is that the braking issue also prevents 201s from assisting the older classes in failures. The 201 can't release the brakes on them. However the other way round is possible, stick the failed 201 in trail mode and use the train brakes on the leading 1x1/071.

It would also prevent a 201 from working in multiple with the other GMs. So a double header would have to be a pair of 201s.

Captain Chaos

Karsini wrote: »

I doubt that they're dead, because you'd still have the issue of the locos needing to be connected. It's not permitted to run any unbraked vehicles except in emergency situations. NIR probably do have the facility to connect the locos together but I just don't know.

I don't mean dead dead. Just shut down. It would still be braked like the rest of the train.

Just looking through photos online and NIR ran their 201s double headed. Part of the Yankee Explorer tour from Belfast to Portadown. :eek: Then took 208 off there and 209 took the tour to Connolly. Learn something new every day.

I have seen photos of the two NIR 201s together before but I thought that was them being delivered from Inchicore.

Oscar Bravo

088 will work this evenings Westport-Waterford timber train.

duffmckegean

Oscar Bravo wrote: »

088 will work this evenings Westport-Waterford timber train.

I always wondered whether this run was via Kildare or the South Tipperary Line?

flyingsnail

duffmckegean wrote: »

I always wondered whether this run was via Kildare or the South Tipperary Line?

It runs via the Kildare to Waterford line

demanufactured

Karsini wrote: »

IE did use four 141s in multiple during the Maynooth redoubling. They were all powered and were used to bed down the track. A friend of mine has a photo of them at Clonsilla.

There is actually a technical reason why IE don't top and tail, but it's not something that can't be resolved. The 121/141/181/071 class locos have an independent (green) brake pipe that controls the brakes on the locomotive. If this isn't connected between both locos in a multiple working scenario, the trailing loco can't release its brakes. The problem is that the green pipe is not present on IE rolling stock, so it's not possible to connect the locos together at each end, so they must both be side-by-side.

The 201s don't have the independent brake pipe, instead they have a remote cock/valve. When this is set to trail mode, the brakes work the same way as a coach and are controlled via the train brake in the leading 201. In theory it should be possible to top and tail 201s if the stock has a 27-pin passthrough (e.g. Mk3 Internationals) but I'm not sure.

Get us a look at that pic of the 141s!

Captain Chaos

demanufactured wrote: »

Get us a look at that pic of the 141s!

I'd love to see it too. I heard about it many years ago on the old IRN board.

The best IE loco line up I ever saw was in 2004/5 at East Wall junction. A 141, waiting for a slot on the mainline was hauling a failed 141+121 pair from North Wall yard back to Connolly during the evening rush hour. I almost got whiplash looking at it on the passing DART.:D