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Manoffeeling

bob charles wrote: »

I would go now, trade for feeder cows has picked up a bit, why I dont know. whatever you can get over the € a kg wave good bye, unless you have some trick and very very cheap feed. Cant see much of a trade for beef post xmas in the short term

Why can't you see a trade for beef post Xmas? Is it your gut or facts and figures or projections or maybe tradition?

dasheriff

maxxuumman wrote: »

Anyone get quotes for dAiry cows going around Christmas. Cows are warming up but don't know wheither to go now or early jan

Your talking around 3.20kg for O3s..Im with bob id let them off now iv a load going monday..

dasheriff

maxxuumman wrote: »

Anyone get quotes for dAiry cows going around Christmas. Cows are warming up but don't know wheither to go now or early jan

Your talking around 3.20kg for O3s..Im with bob id let them off now iv a load going monday myself..

problum8

I have two limousine bulls... One about 550kg the other 500kg or a bit less... They are about 16 months. What would be the best time to kill.. They are been fed ad lib the last fortnight.. I was thinking I could get rid of the bigger lad around Christmas? Will I gain the best value for them at this weight? I was told that between 500 and 700 kg is optimum for young bulls.. I would like to get rid of them asap as we usually dont finish... Also where would be the best factory for these? We are in Galway.. Thanks in advance.

Farmer Pudsey

bob charles wrote: »

I would go now, trade for feeder cows has picked up a bit, why I dont know. whatever you can get over the € a kg wave good bye, unless you have some trick and very very cheap feed. Cant see much of a trade for beef post xmas in the short term

Manoffeeling wrote: »

Why can't you see a trade for beef post Xmas? Is it your gut or facts and figures or projections or maybe tradition?

I am with Bob and Manofeeling on this up to 2-3 weeks ago I thaught we would be looking at a serious lift in price around now or after Xmas as we do every year. However cannot see it happening bulls that were housed early in July/August have to be moved due to time in shed and price of ration. February will see usual glut of Dariry farmers cattle cannot see a serious price rise before April/May:eek: if then

jfh

Farmer Pudsey, been offered 410 for those bulls, thought i'd get 415.
mart or factory? any idea

bob charles

jfh wrote: »

Farmer Pudsey, been offered 410 for those bulls, thought i'd get 415.
mart or factory? any idea

getting late for mart now, there will be nothing worth while next week in the marts. Anyone local to buy by hand? Best to feed on for Xmas if there only 600kgs. Bulls grading 1's and 2's fat will serious drop the price paid and I suspect from what you describe you have they are un finished.

problum8 wrote: »

I have two limousine bulls... One about 550kg the other 500kg or a bit less... They are about 16 months. What would be the best time to kill.. They are been fed ad lib the last fortnight.. I was thinking I could get rid of the bigger lad around Christmas? Will I gain the best value for them at this weight? I was told that between 500 and 700 kg is optimum for young bulls.. I would like to get rid of them asap as we usually dont finish... Also where would be the best factory for these? We are in Galway.. Thanks in advance.

Depending on quality I would suspect these guys need another 2 months feeding before even considering slaughter

jfh

appreciate the advise bob, they're young, one is finished alright , the other is 575kg and could do with another few weeks but they are gone off their nuts.
so you'd be of the oopinion to hold on until mid jan if i could?

bob charles

jfh wrote: »

appreciate the advise bob, they're young, one is finished alright , the other is 575kg and could do with another few weeks but they are gone off their nuts.
so you'd be of the oopinion to hold on until mid jan if i could?

Not if gone off their nuts, they need a change of diet or scenery

problum8

My lads seem to be gone off their nuts too... Trough not touched last night.. What would you suggest as a change of diet?

Farmer Pudsey

jfh wrote: »

appreciate the advise bob, they're young, one is finished alright , the other is 575kg and could do with another few weeks but they are gone off their nuts.
so you'd be of the oopinion to hold on until mid jan if i could?

problum8 wrote: »

My lads seem to be gone off their nuts too... Trough not touched last night.. What would you suggest as a change of diet?

How long are they on the finishing diet for usually they go stale after about 130ish days so much for all the baloney about 200 days for bulls.

Bulls could be a tough trade for a while a lot housed in July/August now either going stale or finished and will have to be sold. Like I said earlier I cannot see a price rise after christmass all ration bills are starting to become an issue and mills will insist on being paid because of the amount being carried. Maybe I am wrong but in my opinion to make it worth your while holding you would need a rise of 15-20 cent after christmass for it to pay to hold cattle.

jfh

Thanks farmer Pudsey, ur up early this morning, yeah the bulls are off tmmrw to slaney.
Re the diet, ive found switching them to hay & off baled silage works in the short term to get them eating nuts again.

mf240

jfh wrote: »

Thanks farmer Pudsey, ur up early this morning, yeah the bulls are off tmmrw to slaney.
Re the diet, ive found switching them to hay & off baled silage works in the short term to get them eating nuts again.

Bob or pudsey might know better but sounds like mild acidosis to me

Was the silage soft juicy stuff , or strong stemmy stuff?

jfh

mf240 wrote: »

Bob or pudsey might know better but sounds like mild acidosis to me

Was the silage soft juicy stuff , or strong stemmy stuff?

hi mf240,it would have been what looks like good quality baled silage. the odd bale might have been soft & juicy but most are dry, wouldn't be strong stemmy stuff. but i think you are right.

caseman

Sent 6 20 month heifers last monday got cheque today.
prices from E4.21 to E4.39 R=3- U=3=.

epfff

Was tring to get fr bulls killed this week failed
agents fron 2 places tring to settle on price for 2nd of jan
what should i be settling on

poor farmer

I was trying to get fr bulls away also. I was told the were booked up for this week . I am holding out for €4.00 for Os

freedominacup

dasheriff wrote: »

Your talking around 3.20kg for O3s..Im with bob id let them off now iv a load going monday myself..

Got 3.30 for O's today.

poor farmer

freedominacup wrote: »

Got 3.30 for O's today.

cows I presume

freedominacup

poor farmer wrote: »

cows I presume

Yep if it was the 4.10 you're on about it'd make a grand christmas

epfff

poor farmer wrote: »

I was trying to get fr bulls away also. I was told the were booked up for this week . I am holding out for €4.00 for Os

normally deal with Kepak near by find them ok
but the buyer origonally was talking 380 for Os this week and i didnt give him answer as i wasnt happy
had to put feelers out
dont think the 4 is there but might get 395 Os + 385 Ps from other guy

poor farmer

epfff wrote: »

normally deal with Kepak near by find them ok
but the buyer origonally was talking 380 for Os this week and i didnt give him answer as i wasnt happy
had to put feelers out
dont think the 4 is there but might get 395 Os + 385 Ps from other guy

I got €3.90 two weeks ago in kepak for Os

epfff

poor farmer wrote: »

I got €3.90 two weeks ago in kepak for Os

He seen i was tight for space in sheds(cows calfing soon)
im under time pressure due to day job
and he reconed i hadnt cash flow to hang tuff
dont worry he will pay for it again he nolonger has to match others to get cattle he is now the 1 that has to beat the rest to get lookin

dasheriff

freedominacup wrote: »

Got 3.30 for O's today.

Ya that seems to be the going this week i got roughly the same..happy enough with it..

saranac1

Bullocks up to 4.15 now

epfff

saranac1 wrote: »

Bullocks up to 4.15 now

Whats the word on dairy bulls

Dunedin

saranac1 wrote: »

Bullocks up to 4.15 now

is that the base price for underage cattle?

bob charles

saranac1 wrote: »

Bullocks up to 4.15 now

for any of the poor feckers that worked sorting and hauling cattle most of Stephens day surely deserved the extra 10c. one of the lads told me he covered over 500kms with cattle lorry yesterday:(.

So is a 10c rise (from the 1st of dec to 1st of Jan) enough to cover the month of December? doubt it.

Cavanjack

saranac1 wrote: »

Bullocks up to 4.15 now

Is this a quote from a factory or from the journal? There is usually a difference between the two.

saranac1

Sorry just on the front of the journal but I reckon with the whole Libya deal, prices will go up from jan 1 st.