beef price tracker

theaceofspies

Can anyone tell us what the finished value of one of these animals is from a sellers point of view? i.e. when a carcass is cut up what is the final sale value of all the cuts added together. If we knew the end figure we could work backword from there. Anyone here with experience of butchering should have an idea.
I'd say then we would really know how much farmers are being shafted by the retailers and processors.
You would imagine this kind of analysis is something that the IFA would be doing:cool:.

theaceofspies

As a side issue maybe the IFA should be encouraging people to support their local butcher who probably gives a far better deal to the farmer than you know who

Roundbale

MfMan wrote: »

Any harm to ask where did you go?

Through agent, eurofarm were the best he could find. Dropping again this week he said

Roundbale

theaceofspies wrote: »

As a side issue maybe the IFA should be encouraging people to support their local butcher who probably gives a far better deal to the farmer than you know who

Fair enough, but 90% of our beef is exported. We can't all sell to 10% of the market.

simx

anyone get quotes for cows this week?

rangler1

theaceofspies wrote: »

Can anyone tell us what the finished value of one of these animals is from a sellers point of view? i.e. when a carcass is cut up what is the final sale value of all the cuts added together. If we knew the end figure we could work backword from there. Anyone here with experience of butchering should have an idea.
I'd say then we would really know how much farmers are being shafted by the retailers and processors.
You would imagine this kind of analysis is something that the IFA would be doing:cool:.

The last time we priced the meat from a lamb we killed, it worked out at €280 at Tesco prices the week we did it

Willfarman

Roundbale wrote: »

Through agent, eurofarm were the best he could find. Dropping again this week he said

Euro farm always quote well and cut you in the detail. They love their clipping. This is my personal experience and opinion now so sue me!

Roundbale

Willfarman wrote: »

Euro farm always quote well and cut you in the detail. They love their clipping. This is my personal experience and opinion now so sue me!

Ya, my hole is still sore. 3 heifers were R with fat of 5 and only got 3.50, you'd swear they were auld cows. This grading is bollocks.

Willfarman

Roundbale wrote: »

Ya, my hole is still sore. 3 heifers were R with fat of 5 and only got 3.50, you'd swear they were auld cows. This grading is bollocks.

Ah look I feel your pain. It's infuriating. In my experience. You are better to go to a factory that you are happy with grading and stoppages. I meant the clipping literally in euro farm. They charge for clipping clean cattle.

Willfarman

rangler1 wrote: »

The last time we priced the meat from a lamb we killed, it worked out at €280 at Tesco prices the week we did it

That's unreal.

visatorro

Willfarman wrote: »

That's unreal.

That's what you're up against

Butcher Boy

rangler1 wrote: »

The last time we priced the meat from a lamb we killed, it worked out at €280 at Tesco prices the week we did it

the butcher have to live too.

moy83

Butcher Boy wrote: »

the butcher have to live too.

I won't argue with you there , everyone has to live .
Would you have an idea of the costs to the butcher on a lamb to get it all sold ? Or what his margin would be roughly

Butcher Boy

moy83 wrote: »

I won't argue with you there , everyone has to live .
Would you have an idea of the costs to the butcher on a lamb to get it all sold ? Or what his margin would be roughly

a lamb coming in at 120.he would roughly make 320 going out over the counter,but then when you take out all costs you might have 100 out of him.

Muckit

Roundbale wrote: »

Sold a blast of 28-29 month old cattle at the end of last week. Some heavy bullocks up between 830 - 860 kgs. Continentals reared from cows and finished on grass, no concentrates.

Got base of 3.70 for the bullocks, Most Rs and some U grades and no QA bonus for any over 400kg carcass, which was nearly all of them.

Heifers were 3.75 and some got QA with that, others over 400 didn't.

That you get nothing more for a U grade now and no QA over 400kgs is focking ridiculous.

Sound like great cattle is right. Loved to have seen a few pics of them. Especially heifers going over the 400kg carcass @<30mths. They must have been elephants.

Roundbale

Butcher Boy wrote: »

a lamb coming in at 120.he would roughly make 320 going out over the counter,but then when you take out all costs you might have 100 out of him.

Christ, you make 100 after probably 3 weeks of buying him where as the farmer has him for months and probably lucky to make 30 quid. Not having a go at you and thanks for your honesty. What would you make on a heifer that kills out at 350 KGS?

Roundbale

Muckit wrote: »

Sound like great cattle is right. Loved to have seen a few pics of them. Especially heifers going over the 400kg carcass @<30mths. They must have been elephants.

I'll dig some up and fire them into the photos thread. They didn't look massive mind.

moy83

Butcher Boy wrote: »

a lamb coming in at 120.he would roughly make 320 going out over the counter,but then when you take out all costs you might have 100 out of him.

Thats a fair bit better than the boy that reared him would make out of him

Butcher Boy

Roundbale wrote: »

Christ, you make 100 after probably 3 weeks of buying him where as the farmer has him for months and probably lucky to make 30 quid. Not having a go at you and thanks for your honesty. What would you make on a heifer that kills out at 350 KGS?

we don't kill them that heavy around the 220 to 240 kg dw ,the cuts of meat are too big after that,

amacca

moy83 wrote: »

Thats a fair bit better than the boy that reared him would make out of him

Presumably thats just one butchers shop…(I don't think I begrudge an independent business that supplies a quality product a fair price for it, even a bit of a premium) …. Its monopolies/kartels that are the problem…..imagine what supermarket chains and the processors etc are making out of the animal……supermarkets probably getting it cheaper - dividing it up into even smaller portions and selling it dearer overall….I think this country is one of telcos most profitable markets by far per head of population - the unjustifiably creamed all round them during our bubble as well.

People have been and still are being taken for a ride in this country in so many areas/walks of life.

Butcher Boy

amacca wrote: »

Presumably thats just one butchers shop…(I don't think I begrudge an independent business that supplies a quality product a fair price for it) …. Its monopolies/kartels that are the problem…..imagine what supermarket chains and the processors etc are making out of the animal……supermarkets probably getting it cheaper - dividing it up into even smaller portions and selling it dearer overall….I think this country is one of telcos most profitable markets by far per head of population - the unjustifiably creamed all round them during our bubble as well.

People have been and still are being taken for a ride in this country in so many areas/walks of life.

At least you can see the stock we kill.

sandydan

simx wrote: »

anyone get quotes for cows this week?

2.70 kg assume its Os, that usual grade opting to keep till after Xmas

Base price

Willfarman wrote: »

Euro farm always quote well and cut you in the detail. They love their clipping. This is my personal experience and opinion now so sue me!

Everyone's experience is different. However we find Euro Farm to be pretty fair as long as you don't go over + fat score. To be honest they stand by the prices they quote unlike some other factories in the East and Midlands. Also they treated us fairly this Spring when nobody else wanted to entertain us with our FR bulls. At least they were prepared to discuss prices unlike some of the other 3 factories that we regularly deal with who did not want to know us at the time.

Cavanjack

sandydan wrote: »

2.70 kg assume its Os, that usual grade opting to keep till after Xmas

Got 3.20 and 3.10 for o's and p's last week

Willfarman

Base price wrote: »

Everyone's experience is different. However we find Euro Farm to be pretty fair as long as you don't go over + fat score. To be honest they stand by the prices they quote unlike some other factories in the East and Midlands. Also they treated us fairly this Spring when nobody else wanted to entertain us with our FR bulls. At least they were prepared to discuss prices unlike some of the other 3 factories that we regularly deal with who did not want to know us at the time.

Well two places I will NEVER deal with again are euro farm and Dunbia. They would quote 5 or 10 cent better than other places
Then R grade cattle turn into O+. 5score fats appear.. And if you examine the stoppages you find your clean cattle require clipping at your expense.

I said

Roundbale wrote: »

I'll dig some up and fire them into the photos thread. They didn't look massive mind.

Did ya find them photos

Roundbale

I said wrote: »

Did ya find them photos

Have for 2,of the bullocks and 1,of the heifers, she killed out at 380, nome of the bigger ones. Will put them up tomorrow.


Edit: this place won't let me post pictures.

Willfarman

What's this weeks quote for steers?

I said

Roundbale wrote: »

Have for 2,of the bullocks and 1,of the heifers, she killed out at 380, nome of the bigger ones. Will put them up tomorrow.


Edit: this place won't let me post pictures.

Have ya enough posts to be allowed put up photos

Farmer Pudsey

Roundbale wrote: »

Have for 2,of the bullocks and 1,of the heifers, she killed out at 380, nome of the bigger ones. Will put them up tomorrow.


Edit: this place won't let me post pictures.

I think you have to have 50 posts before you can post a picture