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mufcboy1999 · 31-03-2012 1:52am

Podge2k7 wrote: »

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

It's beyond a joke really and hugely disrespectful from puff to compare them.

You'd think he'd have more respect for his 1st ever real flagship artist. Without biggie, bad boy wouldn't of being a relevant label IMO.

Biggie elevated Bad Boy and honestly I never thought Piuff would compare Ross to him. I think Puffy is trying to stay relevant tbh.

Diddy is a leach man always has been, pretty much sold out on Kim too siding with niki more or less.

Honestly though he's made some terrible signings over the years to his label in his constant pursuit to re-build it, young joc , cassie etc

Shyne was probably his best signing since the whole biggie era, black Rob had a few nice songs and red cafe has a few hits but the majority have been cat !

The new lad machine gun Kelly is the latest one. ! Havnt even bothered listining to him outside of his ft on dmx's new single.

conor.hogan.2 · 31-03-2012 2:12am

Diddy knew Biggie.
Biggie raps about the same things as Ross.

I don't see the problem with him comparing them. True, Biggie is way better than Ross but they are not beyond comparison.

Podge2k7 · 31-03-2012 2:53am

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Diddy knew Biggie.
Biggie raps about the same things as Ross.

I don't see the problem with him comparing them. True, Biggie is way better than Ross but they are not beyond comparison.

Yeah but Biggie lived the life of selling crack and other shite on the street, Ross tryed to stop people from doing it and raps about it as if he did it himself so thats what i feel is wrong about it,

mufcboy1999 · 31-03-2012 2:56am

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Diddy knew Biggie.
Biggie raps about the same things as Ross.

I don't see the problem with him comparing them. True, Biggie is way better than Ross but they are not beyond comparison.

You really don't give biggie the credit he deserves man , i can't Belive your serious to be honest.

Just about every single gangsta rapper on the planet has similar content, it doesn't make them comparable.

If I said j cole or Lamar were comparable to pac , what would you say? Both are gaining reputations as great story tellers.

conor.hogan.2 · 31-03-2012 3:00am

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

You really don't give biggie the credit he deserves man , i can't Belive your serious to be honest.

Just about every single gangsta rapper on the planet has similar content, it doesn't make them comparable.

If I said j cole or Lamar were comparable to pac , what would you say? Both are gaining reputations as great story tellers.

I give him credit. He was great. He was 100's of times a better rapper than Ross, I can't stands ross's music.

But being a gangsta* rapper does make them comparable, plus Diddy was Biggies producer/promoter/friend so I can't see why people are getting so annoyed at him over this. I can see other reasons to not like him though.

Lamar is a bad example, he is very like 2pac. Very like him, inspired by him in fact. I must give Cole a second chance considering how wrong I was about Lamar. I don't see the relevance here though. A long long way to being as prolific and great as 2pac but considering his age he is getting there fast.

*regardless of Biggie doing some of it and Ross doing none of it, this is about their likeness in rap.

News flash: Eminem did not kill his mother, there was not a spaceship in the late 90's with a "big ass canibus coming soon sign on it", etc.
Rap is not always facts.

Podge2k7 · 31-03-2012 3:10am

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

News flash: Eminem did not kill his mother, there was not a spaceship in the late 90's with a "big ass canibus coming soon sign on it", etc.
Rap is not always facts.

Yeah but in reality Eminem doesn't act like a serial killer and Ross goes on factually as if he's a gangster, thats what pisses me off about about him, he couldnt be anymore of a fraud.

conor.hogan.2 · 31-03-2012 3:36am

Podge2k7 wrote: »

Yeah but in reality Eminem doesn't act like a serial killer and Ross goes on factually as if he's a gangster, thats what pisses me off about about him, he couldnt be anymore of a fraud.

Agreed. Does not affect his raps though. (many embellish the truth, tell stories or just plain lie in music)

Diddy knows both rappers, both rappers have overlapping choices of raps so I don't see the problem with the comparison except for the fact Biggie would run laps around him (lyrically and possibly literally)

conor.hogan.2 · 31-03-2012 8:54pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEB7E1nCV6w

Nice. Big Pun nuff said.

conor.hogan.2 · 01-04-2012 5:26pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KhZKNZO8mQ

LL Cool J features in this.

PrettyBoy · 01-04-2012 5:32pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

LL Cool J features in this.

That looks incredibly awkward.

conor.hogan.2 · 01-04-2012 5:37pm

PrettyBoy wrote: »

That looks incredibly awkward.

In what way? His feature? You do know it is an April fools day joke?

PrettyBoy · 01-04-2012 5:48pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

In what way? His feature? You do know it is an April fools day joke?

Haha only realized that, here I was asking myself how the f*ck does that work..falling for a few of these today, I'm blaming the hangover :P

conor.hogan.2 · 01-04-2012 6:05pm

PrettyBoy wrote: »

Haha only realized that, here I was asking myself how the f*ck does that work..falling for a few of these today, I'm blaming the hangover :P

Google have excellent pranks like this for years, very similar to the Onion "newspaper". Plus good acting too which makes it seem more believable.

Bobby Baccala · 01-04-2012 8:00pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P68T78WGwoI

Didn't know this was RZA until i watched it a second time. Funny stuff.

"Inappropriate? that's some fúcked up shít yo."

Jimmy Iovine · 01-04-2012 10:22pm

Diggy Simmons takes a shot at J Cole on his latest song.

The other day I was listening to Purple Rain / couldn’t believe all of the things that I heard em say / Who dat, who dat, you know who it is / Heard you lying on my sis, tellin people that you hit / When your album drops I’ma hit you with your bricks / So I’ma bomb first on you since you wanna riff / Who you gonna call, you ain’t got no friends / This fight is fixed, you ain’t got no wins / Little nigga named Cole think he live like me / Jet setter trend setter, yeah you not like me / Can’t find a girl that you know that do not like me / Can’t find a girl I know, who know you, you dumb fool / Wasn’t even poppin’ in the school you used to go to.

It's alright. Better than some of the other attempts we've seen recently. At least he names Cole in it. Can't see anything much in this really. Cole would be very stupid to go against a 17 yo, and especially when you take into account who his family is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhgNSNSV7D4

PrettyBoy · 01-04-2012 10:31pm

Diggy looking for some attention following his woeful first week sales..

mufcboy1999 · 01-04-2012 10:35pm

spoilt little fu*ker , cole shouldnt respond to this beaver wannabe.

Bobby Baccala · 01-04-2012 10:42pm

Didn't cole start this? Either way i agree with mufc, he's a spoilt little bollocks.
Wouldn't have thought people would take shots at him or his family though, Russel Simmons being his uncle and all.

conor.hogan.2 · 01-04-2012 10:43pm

Since when did he rap? I thought it was the older one who rapped?

See below post for Cole lyrics and the Vanessa thing. Definitely Cole who started this, can't blame Diggy for responding.

Jimmy Iovine · 01-04-2012 10:44pm

To be fair to him Cole was the one that made the first move. He kind of makes up for it again though later on before mentioning Diggy's sister.

Load of nonsense if you ask me. Diggy's just looking for something to get him into the spotlight for a week or so.

Move along cock-sucker, ain’t got nothing to see,
‘less you talking blockbuster, you niggas is not Russell
You more Diggy, Me, I’m more Biggie
No diss to the young boy, I’m just rapping, get bored quickly
Just to make up for that line, invite him on tour with me
Show him the game, let him finagle these whores with me
Run through their doors with me, hit the Ritz Carlton for the night
Leave ‘em there two dykes, probably change a niggas life, right?
Wattup Vanessa? I loved you that one semester
Thanks to my profession I ball’d like uncle Festor

Bobby Baccala · 01-04-2012 10:46pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Since when did he rap? I thought it was the older one who rapped?

Yeah diggy's been rapping a good while now, he has a version of shook ones II and he kills it. I was surprised how well he did on that beat. Jojo raps as well, he's fúckin shít though.

It seems that run hasn't really passed much of his talent to his kids, his daughter vanessa is fit as fúck though.

Jimmy Iovine · 01-04-2012 10:50pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Since when did he rap? I thought it was the older one who rapped?

Since he dropped this track a week or so before his 15th birthday.

The older brother is brutal. Run, Diggy and JoJo were on one of the BET cyphers last year I think. I felt sad watching JoJo trying to rap alongside them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcM6p7pT4-o

conor.hogan.2 · 01-04-2012 10:52pm

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Yeah diggy's been rapping a good while now, he has a version of shook ones II and he kills it. I was surprised how well he did on that beat. Jojo raps as well, he's fúckin shít though.

Cheers, just listened to it he handles that beat very nice in fairness. Queens link too, despite him growing up in NJ but anyway.

Jesus, he has a thing for rapping over classic beats. He is not bad on them either.

PrettyBoy · 01-04-2012 10:52pm

Think the older brother was part of some failed R&B/Rap group, can't say for sure. Diggy actually isn't that bad, has some good lines.

Can't see Cole responding to a 17 year old that got a deal because of who his dad is, even if he did his family should stay out of it, they probably wouldn't do Dig any favors..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZxvwchUNJQ

Bobby Baccala · 01-04-2012 10:53pm

I despise diggys voice with a passion.

mufcboy1999 · 01-04-2012 10:56pm

ye but didnt cole say this ages ago , on his album?

look how long he's after taking to reply, his 1st week sales were terrible, a cry for attention imo.

conor.hogan.2 · 01-04-2012 10:58pm

http://twitter.com/#!/RevRunWisdom/status/186488267196211200

"J Cole.. Puts out 2 records Dissing family & Diggy & nobody cared.. Some1 leaks a old Diggy record & there's a problem?"